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Popa's_TJ · 01-13-2011, 10:10 AM

I just picked up a set from a TJ rubi , these will just bolt right on to mine. right?? mine is just a sport. The 44s have air locker in the back and the front is mechanical. that shouldn't matter right???

Popa's_TJ · 01-13-2011, 10:11 AM

Mine is also a TJ just the sport.

alex211 · 01-13-2011, 11:03 AM

I think the rear u-joint is a 1330 instead of 1310.

UCTJ · 01-13-2011, 11:36 AM

Yes they will both bolt right into your TJ the suspension mounts are the same.

Popa's_TJ · 01-13-2011, 12:56 PM

fawk yus!!! Im sooo jacked about this swap!!! another question.. do you know if they switched to an ARB locker in the factory? he said that they ran out or something so they switched to an ARB. idk if its true or not just curious if any of you would know this.

UCTJ · 01-13-2011, 02:01 PM

Ive never heard of them running out of factory lockers and putting ARBs in. Double check the ujoint yoke size to make sure its the same size are your current driveshaft ujoint. Even if it isnt the same size thats no biggie and shouldnt stop you from swapping over.

Popa's_TJ · 01-13-2011, 02:15 PM

alirght thanks, and is it it hard to remove the air line to it and the things that go with it. we are on a tight schedule and have like eight hours to do it in. just tryin to find out all the kinks that we might run in to to slow us down on this swap. We are doin front and rear swaps.

Dodgen · 01-13-2011, 02:24 PM

If both are stock they are both air lockers, not mechanical. I have also never heard of them using ARB from the factory. I think he just tried to sell it with that lie. Do yourself a favor and get the pump if you can, they run alot lower pressure than an ARB.

UCTJ · 01-13-2011, 02:25 PM

Shouldnt be too difficult. Honestly Id suggest searching with Google keywords jeepforum and rubicon axles or locker pumps etc. I found a link that maybe helpful to you.
http://www.jeepforum.com/forum/f9/tj...e-swap-613177/
Theres lots of stuff on there which can help you out.

SLOWPOKE693 · 01-13-2011, 02:26 PM

The only problem you may run into is the rear u-joint not matching, (you can buy a 1330-1310 conversion joint if needed) everything else is the same. Provided all the bolts are in decent shape 8 hrs is plenty of time to do the swap. Worry about the air lines for the lockers and the small stuff after you have the Jeep up and running. IMHO

Beat95YJ · 01-13-2011, 02:30 PM

Could need driveshaft mods. 44 pinions are longer than 30's or 35's.

apeters89 · 01-13-2011, 02:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Beat95YJ

Could need driveshaft mods. 44 pinions are longer than 30's or 35's.

swap shafts too. Should solve the u-joint issue too.

Popa's_TJ · 01-13-2011, 02:43 PM

Thats what I was thinking, get it all mounted an able to drive away. then do the lines and other stuff. and he is giving me the pump. so thats a good thing. This guy is parting it out because the bank is buying it back taking the loss on it because they are going out of business. So what if i took his drive shafts also lol Im just gunna take his entire drive line. idk what t case he has. His is auto and mines the 5 speed. would i be able to take his case too lol

SLOWPOKE693 · 01-13-2011, 02:53 PM

If you can get the T-case and related bits, axles, shafts and locker pumps you will be all set. Lots of work to swap out 2 of everything, way more than 8 hours unless you work at a chop shop....lol

Popa's_TJ · 01-13-2011, 04:56 PM

lmao no chop shop. just a dealership. and I'm bringing in some guys so itll be two guys on each. its like a tag team. lmao we can do this! lol

SLOWPOKE693 · 01-13-2011, 05:45 PM

Go for it! T-case bolt pattern is the same on both, so no problems with fitment, and you can use the Rubi rear driveshaft with no mods.......May as well swap out the front DS while your in there!

The Rubicon T-case has a 4-1 low vs your 2.73-1......Good for crawling

Good luck!

Popa's_TJ · 01-14-2011, 09:28 AM

yup thats what ima end up doing. and thanks for the help!!!

01-13-2011, 10:10 AM	#1 (permalink)
Popa's_TJ Registered User Join Date: Oct 2010 Member # 171818 Location: NW Indiana Posts: 34	D44? I just picked up a set from a TJ rubi , these will just bolt right on to mine. right?? mine is just a sport. The 44s have air locker in the back and the front is mechanical. that shouldn't matter right???

01-13-2011, 11:03 AM	#3 (permalink)
alex211 Registered User Join Date: Sep 2009 Member # 142183 Location: Pennsylvania Posts: 402	I think the rear u-joint is a 1330 instead of 1310. __________________ 90 CTD, 4x4 5 speed, sclb

01-13-2011, 11:36 AM	#4 (permalink)
UCTJ The Devils Trailboss Join Date: Aug 2005 Member # 51571 Location: Texas Posts: 3,893	Yes they will both bolt right into your TJ the suspension mounts are the same. __________________ 93 W250 CTD 5spd 97 TJ 60/14 Atlas 40" Maxxis 106" WB Shawn www.polyperformance.com Last edited by UCTJ; 01-13-2011 at 11:36 AM.

01-13-2011, 02:01 PM	#6 (permalink)
UCTJ The Devils Trailboss Join Date: Aug 2005 Member # 51571 Location: Texas Posts: 3,893	Ive never heard of them running out of factory lockers and putting ARBs in. Double check the ujoint yoke size to make sure its the same size are your current driveshaft ujoint. Even if it isnt the same size thats no biggie and shouldnt stop you from swapping over. __________________ 93 W250 CTD 5spd 97 TJ 60/14 Atlas 40" Maxxis 106" WB Shawn www.polyperformance.com Last edited by UCTJ; 01-13-2011 at 02:02 PM.

01-13-2011, 02:24 PM	#8 (permalink)
Dodgen Mall Crawler Join Date: Dec 2006 Member # 83394 Location: Dawsonville,Ga Posts: 262	If both are stock they are both air lockers, not mechanical. I have also never heard of them using ARB from the factory. I think he just tried to sell it with that lie. Do yourself a favor and get the pump if you can, they run alot lower pressure than an ARB. __________________ Save Tellico/Support SFWDA Jeff Dodgen 2000 TJ *Tellico Rally Post #942*

01-13-2011, 10:11 AM	#2 (permalink)
Popa's_TJ Registered User Join Date: Oct 2010 Member # 171818 Location: NW Indiana Posts: 34	Mine is also a TJ just the sport.

01-13-2011, 12:56 PM	#5 (permalink)
Popa's_TJ Registered User Join Date: Oct 2010 Member # 171818 Location: NW Indiana Posts: 34	fawk yus!!! Im sooo jacked about this swap!!! another question.. do you know if they switched to an ARB locker in the factory? he said that they ran out or something so they switched to an ARB. idk if its true or not just curious if any of you would know this.

01-13-2011, 02:15 PM	#7 (permalink)
Popa's_TJ Registered User Join Date: Oct 2010 Member # 171818 Location: NW Indiana Posts: 34	alirght thanks, and is it it hard to remove the air line to it and the things that go with it. we are on a tight schedule and have like eight hours to do it in. just tryin to find out all the kinks that we might run in to to slow us down on this swap. We are doin front and rear swaps.

01-13-2011, 02:25 PM	#9 (permalink)
UCTJ The Devils Trailboss Join Date: Aug 2005 Member # 51571 Location: Texas Posts: 3,893	Shouldnt be too difficult. Honestly Id suggest searching with Google keywords jeepforum and rubicon axles or locker pumps etc. I found a link that maybe helpful to you. http://www.jeepforum.com/forum/f9/tj...e-swap-613177/ Theres lots of stuff on there which can help you out. __________________ 93 W250 CTD 5spd 97 TJ 60/14 Atlas 40" Maxxis 106" WB Shawn www.polyperformance.com

01-13-2011, 02:26 PM	#10 (permalink)
SLOWPOKE693 Registered User Join Date: Dec 2010 Member # 178200 Location: Masshole Posts: 322	The only problem you may run into is the rear u-joint not matching, (you can buy a 1330-1310 conversion joint if needed) everything else is the same. Provided all the bolts are in decent shape 8 hrs is plenty of time to do the swap. Worry about the air lines for the lockers and the small stuff after you have the Jeep up and running. IMHO

01-13-2011, 02:30 PM	#11 (permalink)
Beat95YJ Registered User Join Date: Aug 2003 Member # 22176 Location: Redondo Beach Posts: 8,746	Could need driveshaft mods. 44 pinions are longer than 30's or 35's. __________________ I can break a steel ball in a rubber room!

01-13-2011, 02:43 PM	#13 (permalink)
Popa's_TJ Registered User Join Date: Oct 2010 Member # 171818 Location: NW Indiana Posts: 34	Thats what I was thinking, get it all mounted an able to drive away. then do the lines and other stuff. and he is giving me the pump. so thats a good thing. This guy is parting it out because the bank is buying it back taking the loss on it because they are going out of business. So what if i took his drive shafts also lol Im just gunna take his entire drive line. idk what t case he has. His is auto and mines the 5 speed. would i be able to take his case too lol

01-13-2011, 02:53 PM	#14 (permalink)
SLOWPOKE693 Registered User Join Date: Dec 2010 Member # 178200 Location: Masshole Posts: 322	If you can get the T-case and related bits, axles, shafts and locker pumps you will be all set. Lots of work to swap out 2 of everything, way more than 8 hours unless you work at a chop shop....lol

01-13-2011, 04:56 PM	#15 (permalink)
Popa's_TJ Registered User Join Date: Oct 2010 Member # 171818 Location: NW Indiana Posts: 34	lmao no chop shop. just a dealership. and I'm bringing in some guys so itll be two guys on each. its like a tag team. lmao we can do this! lol

01-13-2011, 05:45 PM	#16 (permalink)
SLOWPOKE693 Registered User Join Date: Dec 2010 Member # 178200 Location: Masshole Posts: 322	Go for it! T-case bolt pattern is the same on both, so no problems with fitment, and you can use the Rubi rear driveshaft with no mods.......May as well swap out the front DS while your in there! The Rubicon T-case has a 4-1 low vs your 2.73-1......Good for crawling Good luck! Last edited by SLOWPOKE693; 01-13-2011 at 05:50 PM.

01-14-2011, 09:28 AM	#17 (permalink)
Popa's_TJ Registered User Join Date: Oct 2010 Member # 171818 Location: NW Indiana Posts: 34	yup thats what ima end up doing. and thanks for the help!!!

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