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hiliftedjeep · 05-03-2011, 05:05 PM

i been thinkinf of doimg some work on my jeep and can't make a decision on what to do
i'm looking for pros and cons of stretching or back half my jeep

robi615 · 05-03-2011, 07:41 PM

back half to run what? What kind of jeep? what purposes do you have to back half a good jeep? Back halfing a jeep is fine but a lot of work is involved and most jeeps that are back halfed are making a transition to buggy, not streetable jeep from what i've seen. What kind of stretching would you do? Stretch the vehicle via moving the suspension around or cutting the jeep in half and adding more frame between the fenders? Need more info to give you a better answer. Whats your setup?

hiliftedjeep · 05-04-2011, 06:56 PM

it's a 01 tj. I'm leaning towards stretching the rear 10'' because i can still run a soft top. like you said to back half my would take a lot of work.

robi615 · 05-05-2011, 10:41 PM

What purposes are you wanting to stretch your jeep? Just longer wheelbase on stock axles? You're still not giving much of anything to your build other than "I'm thinking of stretching my jeep". Only thing I could think of was that this was a classic Tuesday question given your post count haha, welcome to pirate4x4

hiliftedjeep · 05-06-2011, 05:46 AM

it all started out when i was thinking of building my 4 link for my jeep. i'm looking for 100'' to 105'' wheelbase. i have a waggy 44 front and dana 44 rear

Rooney77 · 05-06-2011, 06:55 AM

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Originally Posted by hiliftedjeep

it all started out when i was thinking of building my 4 link for my jeep. i'm looking for 100'' to 105'' wheelbase. i have a waggy 44 front and dana 44 rear

Im assuming you want pros/cons of a wheelbase stretch. What's the intended purpose of your rig? Rocks, mud, trails, mall....? That will determine the pros/cons as much as anything. We still need more details, like tire size, lift, motor.... All we know is that you wanna link a pair of 44s under your TJ. Do you have the ability to do this? Sounds like you might wanna spend more time searching and reading before you jump in.

robi615 · 05-06-2011, 12:20 PM

If you're only going to run 33s, a 100" to 105" wheelbase on a tj may be a bit much. stop saying "I think I want to stretch it" or "what are the pros/cons of back halfing a jeep" and start giving your intended purposes of your jeep. Like rooney said, are you wanting to do rock, mud, trails, mall...? The more info you give the better answers you'll receive.

hiliftedjeep · 05-06-2011, 01:31 PM

I'm running 38's now fixing to have a set of 60's . It's all rocks for me never the mall

The Black Sheep · 05-06-2011, 03:43 PM

Theres no pros to "Back Halfing" a jeep other then improving departure angles. Theres a whole list of cons including the time and materials it takes to build and you get zero in return for performance, plus it pretty much makes it a guaranteed ticket if you go past a cop.

Also why aren't you stretching both your front and rear?

hiliftedjeep · 05-06-2011, 04:51 PM

The rear for now and the front later

The Black Sheep · 05-06-2011, 07:51 PM

Comp cut if anything. Does this thing see street time? If not, comp cut it.

hiliftedjeep · 05-06-2011, 08:10 PM

thats what i'm thinking of. The cops around this small town i live in don't say anything about that. i was doing more thinking about all this and came to a conclusion that if i want to back half my jeep why don't i just buy a tube chassis. i will drive it a mile to work and home anything else i'll drive my truck

robi615 · 05-08-2011, 07:16 PM

what were you running your 38s on before? stock d30/35?

hiliftedjeep · 05-09-2011, 06:01 PM

it was 30/44. bent my 30 on 35's then i build a 44 and i'll never do that again i didn't do a very good job research and stuck it to myself hard

05-03-2011, 05:05 PM	#1 (permalink)
hiliftedjeep Registered User Join Date: May 2011 Member # 189641 Posts: 29	pros and cons i been thinkinf of doimg some work on my jeep and can't make a decision on what to do i'm looking for pros and cons of stretching or back half my jeep

05-05-2011, 10:41 PM	#4 (permalink)
robi615 Wheeler Join Date: Jan 2009 Member # 127789 Location: Lufkin, TX Posts: 499	What purposes are you wanting to stretch your jeep? Just longer wheelbase on stock axles? You're still not giving much of anything to your build other than "I'm thinking of stretching my jeep". Only thing I could think of was that this was a classic Tuesday question given your post count haha, welcome to pirate4x4 Last edited by robi615; 05-05-2011 at 10:43 PM.

05-06-2011, 03:43 PM	#9 (permalink)
The Black Sheep Registered User Join Date: Dec 2004 Member # 40587 Location: SouthEastern CT, Near South Rd./White Rock Posts: 3,062	Theres no pros to "Back Halfing" a jeep other then improving departure angles. Theres a whole list of cons including the time and materials it takes to build and you get zero in return for performance, plus it pretty much makes it a guaranteed ticket if you go past a cop. Also why aren't you stretching both your front and rear? __________________ [QUOTE=Dieselmh]I'll cave his fucking head in with a shovel, just to show him that just because he has opposable thumbs, that doesn't put him on the same badassedness level as humans. Stupid arrogant possums. :shaking:[/QUOTE]

05-06-2011, 07:51 PM	#11 (permalink)
The Black Sheep Registered User Join Date: Dec 2004 Member # 40587 Location: SouthEastern CT, Near South Rd./White Rock Posts: 3,062	Comp cut if anything. Does this thing see street time? If not, comp cut it. __________________ [QUOTE=Dieselmh]I'll cave his fucking head in with a shovel, just to show him that just because he has opposable thumbs, that doesn't put him on the same badassedness level as humans. Stupid arrogant possums. :shaking:[/QUOTE]

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05-03-2011, 07:41 PM	#2 (permalink)
robi615 Wheeler Join Date: Jan 2009 Member # 127789 Location: Lufkin, TX Posts: 499	back half to run what? What kind of jeep? what purposes do you have to back half a good jeep? Back halfing a jeep is fine but a lot of work is involved and most jeeps that are back halfed are making a transition to buggy, not streetable jeep from what i've seen. What kind of stretching would you do? Stretch the vehicle via moving the suspension around or cutting the jeep in half and adding more frame between the fenders? Need more info to give you a better answer. Whats your setup?

05-04-2011, 06:56 PM	#3 (permalink)
hiliftedjeep Registered User Join Date: May 2011 Member # 189641 Posts: 29	it's a 01 tj. I'm leaning towards stretching the rear 10'' because i can still run a soft top. like you said to back half my would take a lot of work.

05-06-2011, 05:46 AM	#5 (permalink)
hiliftedjeep Registered User Join Date: May 2011 Member # 189641 Posts: 29	it all started out when i was thinking of building my 4 link for my jeep. i'm looking for 100'' to 105'' wheelbase. i have a waggy 44 front and dana 44 rear

05-06-2011, 12:20 PM	#7 (permalink)
robi615 Wheeler Join Date: Jan 2009 Member # 127789 Location: Lufkin, TX Posts: 499	If you're only going to run 33s, a 100" to 105" wheelbase on a tj may be a bit much. stop saying "I think I want to stretch it" or "what are the pros/cons of back halfing a jeep" and start giving your intended purposes of your jeep. Like rooney said, are you wanting to do rock, mud, trails, mall...? The more info you give the better answers you'll receive.

05-06-2011, 01:31 PM	#8 (permalink)
hiliftedjeep Registered User Join Date: May 2011 Member # 189641 Posts: 29	I'm running 38's now fixing to have a set of 60's . It's all rocks for me never the mall

05-06-2011, 04:51 PM	#10 (permalink)
hiliftedjeep Registered User Join Date: May 2011 Member # 189641 Posts: 29	The rear for now and the front later

05-06-2011, 08:10 PM	#12 (permalink)
hiliftedjeep Registered User Join Date: May 2011 Member # 189641 Posts: 29	thats what i'm thinking of. The cops around this small town i live in don't say anything about that. i was doing more thinking about all this and came to a conclusion that if i want to back half my jeep why don't i just buy a tube chassis. i will drive it a mile to work and home anything else i'll drive my truck

05-08-2011, 07:16 PM	#13 (permalink)
robi615 Wheeler Join Date: Jan 2009 Member # 127789 Location: Lufkin, TX Posts: 499	what were you running your 38s on before? stock d30/35?

05-09-2011, 06:01 PM	#14 (permalink)
hiliftedjeep Registered User Join Date: May 2011 Member # 189641 Posts: 29	it was 30/44. bent my 30 on 35's then i build a 44 and i'll never do that again i didn't do a very good job research and stuck it to myself hard