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Old 01-17-2012, 09:28 PM   #1 (permalink)
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CJ2A with Toyota DriveTrain

Hi Guys. I am a long time toyota guy. I am new to the CJ2a world. I have always been a huge fan. I recently picked up a 46 cj2a.

I want to use a Toyota Engine/tranny/t-case. However my tape measure says no way. my rear drive line would be about 5" long and its not lined up with the rear axle.

Without stretching the body, what are my options for a trans and t-case? Gotta be a manual.

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Is there a cj2a FAQ somewhere?


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Old 01-17-2012, 09:54 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Hi, I have FJ40 diffs 4 speed box and transfer in my GPW. Did not stretch tub.
Rear tail shaft approx 14" long. Widened front fenders 2.5" to cover tyres and running 7.50 16 tyres.
Neat fit and a lot stronger than std. Rear shaft probably too short with 5 speed. The transfer hangs a liite low.
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Old 01-17-2012, 10:04 PM   #3 (permalink)
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do you have a rear mounted fuel tank or the one under the drivers seat?
neither, yet. Probably gonna go with a tank under that back end. seems safer to me.

I am wanting to build this rig to appear mostly stock, but modernized enough to make it drivable at 60+

I kinda want to keep the stock axles, but not a must. I was thinking Toyota axles, but after bolting the right tire/wheel combo on the rig, it looks nice to me. about 1/3 of a 31x10.50 sticking out of the fenders.
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I put a 22r/L52 trans/Whatever tcase from a toyota in a 47 CJ2A. Stretched body and frame enough to stick a toyota front cardan driveshaft in the back. Stuck yota axles under it.

If i were to go back in time though, i would have just mated the 22r to the stock 3 speed, and then ran the toyota axles with a D20 transfer case.

It's stuck in my dads garage, and he won't let me have it back unfortunately, due to some family issues and him being an overall crappy person.
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Old 01-19-2012, 05:21 PM   #6 (permalink)
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Lol, more like, i'm going to go get the VIN off the frame, and file for a abandoned vehicle title in my name, then if he doesnt give it i'm going to report it stolen. Either that or i'm going to go remove the body from the frame and keep everything i paid for. Which is everything under the body.
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Hi Benny! I'm building early CJ5 on Toyota drivetrain right now. Specs are:
Engine 3Y (2.0L 4 cylinder)
Transmission from '88 70-series light duty TLC (kinda same as 40/60-series)
Axles from '88 70-series light duty TLC (kinda same as 40-series, but bit wider and with 8" diffs)
Suspension is SOA with 2" front Toyota Truck leaf springs on all 4 corners
Steering box is from 80-series TLC

I want to gain nearly stock (as it could be possible with SOA and 35s) stance, no comp cut on rear fenders. The main problem is rear driveshaft length if you want the same appearance of the rig. TLC transmission is well longer than CJ's stock and I was forced to move engine/tranny forward as much as i can to make rear driveshaft longer, so it's about 22-24" long (not made it yet). Front Toyota leaf springs are longer than stock too and I don't like rear shackles mounted on the rear bumper, so their location limited rear axle position. BTW Toyota Truck transmission is much longer than TLC's so i be prepared that it will decrease rear driveshaft length and increase its angle due to higher output flange. If you got any more questions, feel free to ask!
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I had a 20R and L52 in a M38 with no stretch, worked great.
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Very nice build, but comp cuts and longer wheelbase.
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My Willys used to have a Toyota drivetrain(mostly)
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I'd love to do a 22re, early 5spd, 4.7:1 toy t-case, and toy truck axles in a flat fender......

I think that would make a GREAT combo. The rear driveline would be pretty short if you didn't want to stretch it much. 2-3" in the rear lets a 35-36" tire still fit under the body. If you did a mini-front stretch like I did with the raised from fenders I think it could all fit. Push the motor forward along with the radiator right to the back of the grill shell.

I think that would make a REALLY fun vehicle.
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When i did the one i started, i stretched the frame JUST Enough to fit a toyota IFS front shaft..
It was SOA with 2.5" lift springs.. Back in the day when i didn't realize narrow springs were chitty.

the 22R Fits PERFECT right at the stock motor mounts, just push the radiator far forward into the grille and notch the headlight housings.
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I used a Mustang II radiator with the 22r fits right in the grill perfect, no headlight notching needed.
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What's the distance difference between the Toyota and mb frame widths? Looking at using a hilux drivetrain from gearbox to diffs.
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I'd love to do a 22re, early 5spd, 4.7:1 toy t-case, and toy truck axles in a flat fender......
There was a guy with an mb like that when I lived up there. Looked Stock with tires. I would always see it on the Rubicon. Cool little Jeep.
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I built one back in the day....used a 22r, 5speed, Tcase, axles, steering column, and pedal assembly from an '84 Toy truck.

The upsides: The 22r ran great, had decent power, and got fantastic mileage. (20MPG on the highway, on 35's)

The downsides: The trans is LONG. The Tcase is TALL. Combined, that means a super-short rear driveshaft and a low-hanging belly.

I ended up with a high pinion rear axle (and eventually a front, but not because it was necessary), and links/coils in the rear so I could push the rear axle back farther.

Unfortunately the only pics I can find are a middle-of-progress "feature" here: (ignore the fantastic story, I was young) http://www.rockcrawler.com/readersri...st99/index.htm
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