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Old 04-14-2017, 07:55 PM   #51 (permalink)
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Looks like you are making great progress. If you outboard the front springs, will you be able to turn lock to lock without tires rubbing the springs? Looking at the photo with just the tires sitting under the Jeep, it looks like it would be tight, but not sure how wide your axle will be. The extra width would be nice for stability.

My wheel mount surface will be 63.5" it may be tight...i guess I get to wait till my axle is welded back together
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Old 04-14-2017, 08:12 PM   #52 (permalink)
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drilled my 5x5.5 spare tire holder to accommodate a 6lug spare





NOW.....the big issue
my outer beadlock rings measure 16.5"
the inner bead of the tire will only allow for a 16.125" max of beadlock ring

anyone here with a 15" diy beadlock kit want to measure there outer ring for me to compare.




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Old 04-19-2017, 06:36 AM   #53 (permalink)
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Beadlocks ring measure?

Anyone with 15" wheels and beadlocks....
Can you measure the diameter of your outer ring?
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Old 04-19-2017, 06:49 AM   #54 (permalink)
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I don't have beadlocks so this may be a dumb question but is the back side of the outer flange flat? If yes, so there's a gap between the inner and outer flange as thick as the tire lip?
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I don't have beadlocks so this may be a dumb question but is the back side of the outer flange flat? If yes, so there's a gap between the inner and outer flange as thick as the tire lip?
Yes there is a gap between the to rings...
Problem is that the outer ring I received is bigger that the bead area...i won't even be clamping onto the tires bead but rather the start of the side wall
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I tried to zoom in on your tire size. It almost looks like they are 16" ? But its hard to tell
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Looking forward to the beadlock answer.
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I tried to zoom in on your tire size. It almost looks like they are 16" ? But its hard to tell
35x12.50x15
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16 3/4" outside of 15" beadlock ring............ To large and you may damage your side wall at low air pressure or catching a rock at speed my cut the bead. Can you grind the inter edge off a little? What is your outside die. now?


I just looked at your pic. again 16 1/2 no probablem, Haulass
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Ya...
I just don't see how a 16.5" ring is going to clamp down on the bead that measures 16.125"
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I've contacted several people in the industry about this and it appears 16.25" is the normal size and 16.375 is kinda common also
...i just happened to pick the one company that does 16.5"... and so far they aren't giving a shit about my issue
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I've contacted several people in the industry about this and it appears 16.25" is the normal size and 16.375 is kinda common also
...i just happened to pick the one company that does 16.5"... and so far they aren't giving a shit about my issue
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Old 04-20-2017, 06:33 AM   #63 (permalink)
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The company just emailed me back

"Send the outer rings back (include a copy of the invoice in the box) and I will cut a set with the smaller OD on our plasma table and get them out to you."

I've bought from them before and will continue to buy from them...

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That's solid customer service.
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a few parts showed up.
bushings for the leaf springs and front and rear spring under kits





i decided to put the leaf spring on in the factory mounts and set it on the groung to see how high these 2.5" lift springs would be.
then i bropped it.


anyway im thinking i can get it to a hieght i want bit ill have to do some frenching of the spring and shackle mounts.
which leads me to my next thought, should i build a new foot of rear frame and stretch the tub 3-4 inches
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Are you going to run a full top on it? I would have stretched my tub, but I wanted to run a full top (Bestop Tiger Top). I figured a custom made top would be way too expensive, and I don't know how to sew. I chose to simply cut the inner rear fenders for a little more leg room, and then I stretched the rear wheelwell as much as possible without going comp cut. It looks like you still have room to move the rear shackle back some on the stock frame if you wanted to stretch the wheelbase a little.

Are you going for a back seat. I purchased a Corbeau to match my fronts and there is little to no legroom directly behind the seats. Depending on how you are going to use it, now would be the time to do the stretch. Would you stretch only the door, or door and rear tub?

Did it do any damage when the Jeep fell over? How hard was it to get upright again? Oops! I have never done anything like that. Well.....maybe.
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i decided to put the leaf spring on in the factory mounts and set it on the groung to see how high these 2.5" lift springs would be.
then i dropped it.
that sounds like something I did....doh

If you stretch the tub , you should stretch the front too . It just doesn't look right with a long tub and a stubby nose! Or you can build a rack in back for storage if you commit to it being a 2 seater
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Are you going to run a full top on it? I would have stretched my tub, but I wanted to run a full top (Bestop Tiger Top). I figured a custom made top would be way too expensive, and I don't know how to sew. I chose to simply cut the inner rear fenders for a little more leg room, and then I stretched the rear wheelwell as much as possible without going comp cut. It looks like you still have room to move the rear shackle back some on the stock frame if you wanted to stretch the wheelbase a little.

Are you going for a back seat. I purchased a Corbeau to match my fronts and there is little to no legroom directly behind the seats. Depending on how you are going to use it, now would be the time to do the stretch. Would you stretch only the door, or door and rear tub?

Did it do any damage when the Jeep fell over? How hard was it to get upright again? Oops! I have never done anything like that. Well.....maybe.
It was pretty easy to get back over.
No damage.
It looks like I need to repair some crappy work done on the rear frame so I figured now would be the time to stretch..
I'd only ad maybe 3 inches into the fender well area.
More room for camping gear.
I've already moved the seats 2inchrd back into the fender wells
I'll only run a soft top on this thing.
There is a shoe maker in my area who will make a top for dirt cheap

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that sounds like something I did....doh

If you stretch the tub , you should stretch the front too . It just doesn't look right with a long tub and a stubby nose! Or you can build a rack in back for storage if you commit to it being a 2 seater
I'd like more room for a cooler and camping gear...like mentioned maybe only stretch the fender wheel 3" tops...that way they will fit the tires better also...but Idk I'm on the fence
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Would be nice if you can get some pics of the Barnes4wd spring under kit installation and some feedback. I have the same kit on the shelf waiting for install. What do you plan on doing under the spring to keep the square u-bolts from moving fore and aft?

Also glad to hear that you and the willys are in good shape after it decided to jump off the jackstands.

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Would be nice if you can get some pics of the Barnes4wd spring under kit installation and some feedback. I have the same kit on the shelf waiting for install. What do you plan on doing under the spring to keep the square u-bolts from moving fore and aft?

Also glad to hear that you and the willys are in good shape after it decided to jump off the jackstands.
ill post up the info as i do it..
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my 5th tire showed up yesterday...$200 shipped off amazon




my short side front axle adapter also came in
mayhem metal works made this up for me... great guy to work with

now i need to get the long side made...basically an 18" version of this.



also, i finally got my rear axle cleaned off...wow there is alot of brackets on the landcruisers

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i got the long side of my front axle made...


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Old 05-07-2017, 09:51 PM   #73 (permalink)
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i got the pieces put together
lightly hammered in after long period of torching

now i need to figure out the alignment bar situation.






and then..........i started looking at all the issues in the rear and thats when i decided its all coming apart






im finding alot of joints that havnt been welded


so its all coming apart



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more pics



here is an example of the rear section.
im going to slide a piece of 2.5x1.5 into the frame like shown except im going to extend the frame 3 inches over what it was



starting the new rear frame/bumper


whats a guy to do when the beadlocks he has to .25" to big for the tires...and its to expensive to ship them back

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I'm sure you can find a use for those big steel rings! Pre-drilled with holes, might be useful for some sort of positioning base, or tilting table or something, the holes could be for a spring loaded pin.
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