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WildWilly4x4 · 07-31-2008, 02:03 AM

Here's my M-38 build if anyone gives a crap. I basicly tore my cheap ass crawler/trail rig flatty down and did a lil better job of building a cheap ass flatty. I built a new frame to near stock designs, just stretched it a lil bit here and there to get some more wheelbase and room for drivelines. The frame is 2x3 box .120 wall, and the cage is 1.75 .120 DOM. I used 1x2 ,120 wall on the underside of the tub to replace the cracked and broken stock hat channel. I'm not a professional welder so I dont wanna hear any bitchin about the welds. They are plenty strong.

WildWilly4x4 · 07-31-2008, 02:05 AM

Here is a pic of the work on the underside of the tub, and a look at my front shock mounts.

Murfman1967 · 07-31-2008, 03:04 PM

Nice welds

maddtrapper · 07-31-2008, 03:14 PM

So did you make a unibody?

336wheeler · 07-31-2008, 03:48 PM

Pimp ass shock mount. Your welds look just fine: good width, concave, and you pulled some V's in your bead instead of the semi-circular C's... which typically means good penetration (hot weld).

ItsaCJ6 · 07-31-2008, 07:06 PM

Keep the pics coming but turn um right side up!

WildWilly4x4 · 07-31-2008, 07:37 PM

yeah, i'm a fawktard when it comes to these computers, my wife had to show me how to rotate the pics today. Here's some pics of the front spring hanger and the 14 guage fuel tank.

WildWilly4x4 · 07-31-2008, 07:39 PM

I didnt make it a unibody, but i did integrate the cage ande the body's sub-structure together to save some room. The cage will not tie to the frame up front, except through the body, but it will have the main hoop and rear points tied to the frame via the rear shock mounts

51 Jeep Willys · 07-31-2008, 10:15 PM

here ya go man,this is how mine is sitting til i figure out my drivetrain setup

WildWilly4x4 · 08-01-2008, 06:14 AM

Looks like you got your hands on a nice tub to work with there 51.

maddtrapper · 08-01-2008, 06:53 AM

Ok now I understand what you have done on the body. Your rig looks like its going to be nice. What are you thinking for your drivetrain?

WildWilly4x4 · 08-01-2008, 11:15 AM

I've already got the drivetrain in it, 4.3 chevy,sm420,dana300, CUCV 60 and 14bolt

WildWilly4x4 · 08-01-2008, 11:19 AM

here's a few pics of the drivetrain combo and the radiator mount

miniyota · 08-01-2008, 11:25 AM

hope you never have to change your water pump

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Originally Posted by WildWilly4x4

here's a few pics of the drivetrain combo and the radiator mount

WildWilly4x4 · 08-01-2008, 04:02 PM

yeah, it aint fun workin on a flatty w/a motor swap

WildWilly4x4 · 08-02-2008, 02:18 PM

Anyone got a locker reccomendation for the front 60. I know that if I dont go to a selectable locker i will run a full detroit. I been thinkin about an Eaton E locker, but not sure about their durability and customer service on parts. I did a search on the E locker, but only came up with stuff from back in 05 and 06, and most was about the detroit electrac, which i understand is a POS. Pretty much i've narrowed it down to the detroit locker or the E locker. Whats ya'll good and bad on em?

51 Jeep Willys · 08-02-2008, 04:10 PM

hey can you take a pic of how you got your motor/tranny/tcase bolted up the the frame...

WildWilly4x4 · 08-02-2008, 06:29 PM

gimme a day or two, i'm workin midnights and dont get much of a chance to go out and mess w/it. For the motor mounts, i used the early chevy style poly mounts from energy suspension, and in the rear i just fabbed up a crossmember to fit a 2wd chevy th350 mount to the t-case. Pretty easy stuff once you have the parts in front of you to look at.

jalbrecht42 · 08-02-2008, 07:13 PM

Good to see you finally posting up your M38 on here. Keep it up!

WildWilly4x4 · 08-05-2008, 11:34 AM

Here's a pic of the shackle mount/housing and the front shackle. Also note the huge booger blob of filler weld to make the frame look smooth once ground smooth

MC · 08-07-2008, 09:09 AM

Boy oh boy my little willys has a chevy 302 in it and I chase cracks every other time it goes out.

WildWilly4x4 · 08-07-2008, 09:37 PM

I finished welding the cage up and bondoed the joints today. Hopefully a lil paint and bedliner on it in the next day or two. Pics soon to come.

noflyzone · 08-08-2008, 08:19 AM

subscribed

I'm loosing steam on my rockwell big jeep for now and I'm thinking about switching over to makeing the flatty bigger.

WildWilly4x4 · 08-08-2008, 07:56 PM

No real updates, but i got the frame all painted, most of the body and cage painted, and i started to put the fuel pump in the tank today, but i didnt have the fuel pump strainer. Another trip to the parts store, i guess. This is the part of building crap i hate, the nickel and dime shit. Here's some pics of us wheelin my blazer and my bud's yoter the other day. At least somethin to look at.

51 Jeep Willys · 08-08-2008, 09:32 PM

hey where is that wheelin spot located? Its no out there in Post is it...

07-31-2008, 02:03 AM	#1 (permalink)
WildWilly4x4 Registered User Join Date: Mar 2003 Member # 17680 Location: Sunray,TX Posts: 713	Wild Willy build Here's my M-38 build if anyone gives a crap. I basicly tore my cheap ass crawler/trail rig flatty down and did a lil better job of building a cheap ass flatty. I built a new frame to near stock designs, just stretched it a lil bit here and there to get some more wheelbase and room for drivelines. The frame is 2x3 box .120 wall, and the cage is 1.75 .120 DOM. I used 1x2 ,120 wall on the underside of the tub to replace the cracked and broken stock hat channel. I'm not a professional welder so I dont wanna hear any bitchin about the welds. They are plenty strong. Attached Images __________________ '50 m38, 60, 14bolt, 4.3, 420, dana 300, 35" krawlers on trailready's/ '80 Blazer 60,14 bolt, tpi 350, th400, 205, 35" swampers Link to my M38 build: [url]http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?t=703554&highlight=willys+m38[/url] Last edited by WildWilly4x4; 08-20-2008 at 09:05 PM.

07-31-2008, 02:05 AM	#2 (permalink)
WildWilly4x4 Registered User Join Date: Mar 2003 Member # 17680 Location: Sunray,TX Posts: 713	Here is a pic of the work on the underside of the tub, and a look at my front shock mounts. Attached Images __________________ '50 m38, 60, 14bolt, 4.3, 420, dana 300, 35" krawlers on trailready's/ '80 Blazer 60,14 bolt, tpi 350, th400, 205, 35" swampers Link to my M38 build: [url]http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?t=703554&highlight=willys+m38[/url]

07-31-2008, 03:48 PM	#5 (permalink)
336wheeler Registered User Join Date: Mar 2007 Member # 88286 Location: Boone/ Asheboro, NC Posts: 314	Pimp ass shock mount. Your welds look just fine: good width, concave, and you pulled some V's in your bead instead of the semi-circular C's... which typically means good penetration (hot weld). __________________ '94 YJ, 4.0, 4.3 Atlas, HP30/chromos/300Ms, D44/chromos, locked, geared, 35 km2s & 32 bolt beadlocks

07-31-2008, 07:06 PM	#6 (permalink)
ItsaCJ6 Zeus of the Sluice Join Date: Aug 2001 Member # 6340 Location: Telluride CO, within site of of Black Bear Pass Posts: 3,929 Blog Entries: 10	Keep the pics coming but turn um right side up! __________________ Marc In what appears to have been an understatement, the plant operator described the situation at the Number 4 reactor as "not so good." Super conversion calculator website Love and kisses, Zaphod..

07-31-2008, 07:37 PM	#7 (permalink)
WildWilly4x4 Registered User Join Date: Mar 2003 Member # 17680 Location: Sunray,TX Posts: 713	yeah, i'm a fawktard when it comes to these computers, my wife had to show me how to rotate the pics today. Here's some pics of the front spring hanger and the 14 guage fuel tank. Attached Images __________________ '50 m38, 60, 14bolt, 4.3, 420, dana 300, 35" krawlers on trailready's/ '80 Blazer 60,14 bolt, tpi 350, th400, 205, 35" swampers Link to my M38 build: [url]http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?t=703554&highlight=willys+m38[/url]

07-31-2008, 03:04 PM	#3 (permalink)
Murfman1967 Rock God Join Date: Mar 2003 Member # 17605 Posts: 1,234	Nice welds

07-31-2008, 03:14 PM	#4 (permalink)
maddtrapper Registered User Join Date: Aug 2006 Member # 77992 Location: Ozark Mountains of North Arkansas Posts: 188	So did you make a unibody?

07-31-2008, 07:39 PM	#8 (permalink)
WildWilly4x4 Registered User Join Date: Mar 2003 Member # 17680 Location: Sunray,TX Posts: 713	I didnt make it a unibody, but i did integrate the cage ande the body's sub-structure together to save some room. The cage will not tie to the frame up front, except through the body, but it will have the main hoop and rear points tied to the frame via the rear shock mounts __________________ '50 m38, 60, 14bolt, 4.3, 420, dana 300, 35" krawlers on trailready's/ '80 Blazer 60,14 bolt, tpi 350, th400, 205, 35" swampers Link to my M38 build: [url]http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?t=703554&highlight=willys+m38[/url]

07-31-2008, 10:15 PM	#9 (permalink)
51 Jeep Willys Registered User Join Date: Apr 2004 Member # 29208 Location: Sanger, Texas Posts: 963	here ya go man,this is how mine is sitting til i figure out my drivetrain setup __________________ F-Toy 111, 60/14, 4 linked rear, H2s, 39" reds

08-01-2008, 06:14 AM	#10 (permalink)
WildWilly4x4 Registered User Join Date: Mar 2003 Member # 17680 Location: Sunray,TX Posts: 713	Looks like you got your hands on a nice tub to work with there 51. __________________ '50 m38, 60, 14bolt, 4.3, 420, dana 300, 35" krawlers on trailready's/ '80 Blazer 60,14 bolt, tpi 350, th400, 205, 35" swampers Link to my M38 build: [url]http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?t=703554&highlight=willys+m38[/url]

08-01-2008, 06:53 AM	#11 (permalink)
maddtrapper Registered User Join Date: Aug 2006 Member # 77992 Location: Ozark Mountains of North Arkansas Posts: 188	Ok now I understand what you have done on the body. Your rig looks like its going to be nice. What are you thinking for your drivetrain?

08-01-2008, 11:15 AM	#12 (permalink)
WildWilly4x4 Registered User Join Date: Mar 2003 Member # 17680 Location: Sunray,TX Posts: 713	I've already got the drivetrain in it, 4.3 chevy,sm420,dana300, CUCV 60 and 14bolt __________________ '50 m38, 60, 14bolt, 4.3, 420, dana 300, 35" krawlers on trailready's/ '80 Blazer 60,14 bolt, tpi 350, th400, 205, 35" swampers Link to my M38 build: [url]http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?t=703554&highlight=willys+m38[/url]

08-01-2008, 11:19 AM	#13 (permalink)
WildWilly4x4 Registered User Join Date: Mar 2003 Member # 17680 Location: Sunray,TX Posts: 713	here's a few pics of the drivetrain combo and the radiator mount Attached Images __________________ '50 m38, 60, 14bolt, 4.3, 420, dana 300, 35" krawlers on trailready's/ '80 Blazer 60,14 bolt, tpi 350, th400, 205, 35" swampers Link to my M38 build: [url]http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?t=703554&highlight=willys+m38[/url]

08-01-2008, 04:02 PM	#15 (permalink)
WildWilly4x4 Registered User Join Date: Mar 2003 Member # 17680 Location: Sunray,TX Posts: 713	yeah, it aint fun workin on a flatty w/a motor swap __________________ '50 m38, 60, 14bolt, 4.3, 420, dana 300, 35" krawlers on trailready's/ '80 Blazer 60,14 bolt, tpi 350, th400, 205, 35" swampers Link to my M38 build: [url]http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?t=703554&highlight=willys+m38[/url]

08-02-2008, 02:18 PM	#16 (permalink)
WildWilly4x4 Registered User Join Date: Mar 2003 Member # 17680 Location: Sunray,TX Posts: 713	Anyone got a locker reccomendation for the front 60. I know that if I dont go to a selectable locker i will run a full detroit. I been thinkin about an Eaton E locker, but not sure about their durability and customer service on parts. I did a search on the E locker, but only came up with stuff from back in 05 and 06, and most was about the detroit electrac, which i understand is a POS. Pretty much i've narrowed it down to the detroit locker or the E locker. Whats ya'll good and bad on em? __________________ '50 m38, 60, 14bolt, 4.3, 420, dana 300, 35" krawlers on trailready's/ '80 Blazer 60,14 bolt, tpi 350, th400, 205, 35" swampers Link to my M38 build: [url]http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?t=703554&highlight=willys+m38[/url]

08-07-2008, 09:09 AM	#21 (permalink)
MC Pirate4x4 Addict! Join Date: Aug 2003 Member # 21997 Location: Insane CNC machine mfg Posts: 5,271	Boy oh boy my little willys has a chevy 302 in it and I chase cracks every other time it goes out. __________________ Industrial Quality CNC machines at a Hobby Price! USA Quality is job #1 We build CNC plasma tables, click me .................................................. ......... American Motors Engine HERE!! 1-651-257-7917

08-02-2008, 04:10 PM	#17 (permalink)
51 Jeep Willys Registered User Join Date: Apr 2004 Member # 29208 Location: Sanger, Texas Posts: 963	hey can you take a pic of how you got your motor/tranny/tcase bolted up the the frame... __________________ F-Toy 111, 60/14, 4 linked rear, H2s, 39" reds

08-02-2008, 06:29 PM	#18 (permalink)
WildWilly4x4 Registered User Join Date: Mar 2003 Member # 17680 Location: Sunray,TX Posts: 713	gimme a day or two, i'm workin midnights and dont get much of a chance to go out and mess w/it. For the motor mounts, i used the early chevy style poly mounts from energy suspension, and in the rear i just fabbed up a crossmember to fit a 2wd chevy th350 mount to the t-case. Pretty easy stuff once you have the parts in front of you to look at. __________________ '50 m38, 60, 14bolt, 4.3, 420, dana 300, 35" krawlers on trailready's/ '80 Blazer 60,14 bolt, tpi 350, th400, 205, 35" swampers Link to my M38 build: [url]http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?t=703554&highlight=willys+m38[/url]

08-02-2008, 07:13 PM	#19 (permalink)
jalbrecht42 Registered User Join Date: Sep 2005 Member # 52989 Location: Keyport, WA and State College, PA Posts: 630	Good to see you finally posting up your M38 on here. Keep it up! __________________ '47 Willys CJ-2A -- www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?t=690670

08-05-2008, 11:34 AM	#20 (permalink)
WildWilly4x4 Registered User Join Date: Mar 2003 Member # 17680 Location: Sunray,TX Posts: 713	Here's a pic of the shackle mount/housing and the front shackle. Also note the huge booger blob of filler weld to make the frame look smooth once ground smooth Attached Images __________________ '50 m38, 60, 14bolt, 4.3, 420, dana 300, 35" krawlers on trailready's/ '80 Blazer 60,14 bolt, tpi 350, th400, 205, 35" swampers Link to my M38 build: [url]http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?t=703554&highlight=willys+m38[/url] Last edited by WildWilly4x4; 08-05-2008 at 11:36 AM.

08-07-2008, 09:37 PM	#22 (permalink)
WildWilly4x4 Registered User Join Date: Mar 2003 Member # 17680 Location: Sunray,TX Posts: 713	I finished welding the cage up and bondoed the joints today. Hopefully a lil paint and bedliner on it in the next day or two. Pics soon to come. __________________ '50 m38, 60, 14bolt, 4.3, 420, dana 300, 35" krawlers on trailready's/ '80 Blazer 60,14 bolt, tpi 350, th400, 205, 35" swampers Link to my M38 build: [url]http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?t=703554&highlight=willys+m38[/url]

08-08-2008, 08:19 AM	#23 (permalink)
noflyzone Registered User Join Date: Mar 2006 Member # 70267 Location: Ridgeville SC Posts: 251	subscribed I'm loosing steam on my rockwell big jeep for now and I'm thinking about switching over to makeing the flatty bigger. __________________ Don't sweat it. Worst case scenario is your hand rots off and you get one of those cool hooks.

08-08-2008, 07:56 PM	#24 (permalink)
WildWilly4x4 Registered User Join Date: Mar 2003 Member # 17680 Location: Sunray,TX Posts: 713	No real updates, but i got the frame all painted, most of the body and cage painted, and i started to put the fuel pump in the tank today, but i didnt have the fuel pump strainer. Another trip to the parts store, i guess. This is the part of building crap i hate, the nickel and dime shit. Here's some pics of us wheelin my blazer and my bud's yoter the other day. At least somethin to look at. Attached Images __________________ '50 m38, 60, 14bolt, 4.3, 420, dana 300, 35" krawlers on trailready's/ '80 Blazer 60,14 bolt, tpi 350, th400, 205, 35" swampers Link to my M38 build: [url]http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?t=703554&highlight=willys+m38[/url]

08-08-2008, 09:32 PM	#25 (permalink)
51 Jeep Willys Registered User Join Date: Apr 2004 Member # 29208 Location: Sanger, Texas Posts: 963	hey where is that wheelin spot located? Its no out there in Post is it... __________________ F-Toy 111, 60/14, 4 linked rear, H2s, 39" reds

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