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Old 09-19-2009, 02:59 PM   #26 (permalink)
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Good to see things are coming along nicely. Even some things that you didn't want to mess with. Great attitude and way to take it in stride. It's clear that you are enjoying the journey.

I would love to drive over and help you work on it. If only you were closer.

Keep up the good work!
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Old 09-20-2009, 11:59 AM   #27 (permalink)
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Thanks Midnight, wish I did have someone like you helping me. I got two people who help me out off and on and one is my Welder guy since I suck at welding. Don't have anything I can do to the Jeep today the weather is cloudy and have a chance of rain and I have to work this evening at 4.

More to come hopefully by this coming Friday.
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Old 09-22-2009, 01:47 PM   #28 (permalink)
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Weather is continuing to delay outside progress but I managed to come up with some nice models of what parts I plan to make.

Original Transmission cross member

New one



New bumper




And a new continuation of the fender on the bottom which also will include rock sliders. (I know there needs to be some sort of x braces for these..just got lazy in the modeling)


I'm hoping the weather will clear and I can continue this project.
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Old 09-22-2009, 04:51 PM   #29 (permalink)
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At least the crossmember you have now still has the top & bottem flanges - whoever bootyfabbed mine before it came to me just cut them off & welded it up.

Nice Sketchup fabwork, btw!! Did you create the tires & engine yourself or copy them in? I use REVIT for work but am always impressed with what sketchup can do.
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Old 09-22-2009, 07:40 PM   #30 (permalink)
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The engine I copied in from another model, the tires, the frame and the axles are all my work. The darn tires took forever.
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Old 10-22-2009, 10:24 AM   #31 (permalink)
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I have a question about your axles.

Since you have a drivers side t.case, and you say the rear is WT, my guess is these are 80 and up WT FSJ axles.

Do you know what your wheel mounting surface to wheel mounting surface is (wms)?

Reason I ask is that I have those axles and I am contemplating installing them in my Wagon using a narrower frame.

Thanks for any advice.

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Old 03-04-2010, 10:36 PM   #32 (permalink)
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Life is always throwing me a curve ball, once I get done paying for college I need to pay the USA UNCLE SAM 300$ for taxes, after that I can begin working on this baby some more. I have no photos at the moment but have been sanding and sanding, someone used house paint on this thing from what I can tell because it peals off like acrylic. More to come in a little while
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Old 03-07-2010, 10:39 PM   #33 (permalink)
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Ok got myself a cost estimate for all the necessary parts to get this monster back to looking good in terms of glass and body parts. And I have no idea what paint is going to cost me.


Body
Left & right Side panels- 390$ Kaiser Willys
D&P floor panels- 190$ Kaiser Willys
Tail Pan- 70$ Kaiser Willys
Rocker panel 2- 85$ Kaiser Willys
2 Window crank handles- 45.90$ Kaiser Willys
4wheel drive chrome for hood- 45$ Kaiser Willys
Weather Seals
Wind Wing seals- 80$ Kaiser Willys
Door to body seals- 50$ Kaiser Willys
Door window seal kits-120$ Kaiser Willys
Side sliding glass seal- 66$ Kaiser Willys
Side sliding glass kits-105$ Kaiser Willys
Front windshield seal- 75$ Kaiser Willys
Tail Gate window seal- 75$ Kaiser Willys
Tail Gate to body seal- 40$ Kaiser Willys
Glass
Windshield-125$ Tri Valley Auto Glass in CA estimate; Update, Got to Walcks 4wd for that.
Left Door- 70$ Tri Valley Auto Glass in CA estimate

total w/o tx : 1631.90$
Tax: 130.55$
Shipping: 120$
Total:1882.45$
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Old 03-28-2010, 07:50 PM   #34 (permalink)
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Well I've finally managed to get this monster into the garage where I can work on it when the elements decide to be evil to me.

Broken movers Dollie, bought 4 of them as they were rated at 1000 pounds each and heck loads cheaper then the actual car dollies . It broke just as I finished moving it.(only broke one)


Fits nicely with the bald 33 inch front tires but the rears I had to remove and creep it in with the Dollies


Another view


Some sanding work I was able to do before heading off to work




And now for some of the bad things I uncovered. This first one is just behind the driver side door, they braised in a piece of tin and covered it with an inch of Bondo, passenger side was exactly the same with on addition that the rocker was trashed as well. I have my work cut out for me, time for 40grit and three people to go to town on this monster.


Will have more photos tomorrow when my friend comes to help me work on getting this thing ready for the new panels
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Old 03-28-2010, 07:58 PM   #35 (permalink)
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Addition to previous post

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The roof on the inside seemed fine until I removed the liner and insulation and discovered that they had acted like a sponge for the moisture, And it also caused a crack to form in one of the ribs that was allowing water in.
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A little more work done, been going slowly, but progressing. Getting all the paint off and finally had room and time to get the windshield out. The plan is; As soon as I finish sanding the paint off from the chrome mount up on the back I will begin removing the quarter panels, the trashed rocker, driver and passenger floor boards and re-do the door pillar on both sides. Then If I can persuade the screws to come out for the lower tailgate hinge i might be able to cut out the old sheet metal there.





Window frame rust was not terribly bad but was definitely getting ready to take a turn for the worst.



And the cracked windshield which came out with ease, saved and will be used as template for new one piece.

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What are you using to sand?
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Old 04-01-2010, 05:59 PM   #38 (permalink)
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40 and 60 grit paper on 5" orbital palm sanders, The green paint comes off pretty easy but the white paint has been a royal pain to get off. have more photos on Monday night.
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Got the tailgate and window, and wind wing window removed, just having a little trouble figuring out how to remove the door windows. Have some photos later today.
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Finally I'm done sanding the paint off this monster, the interior will just get a 180 grit pass over before I paint it with primer and the new green. It took me 6 hours of practically non-stop sanding to do the roof. I also removed the booty fab'ed "transmission tunnel cover" that one of the Po's did. three separate pieces of sheet and well over 50 screws..... They didn't even bother to cut out the old metal for the twin stick t case. I also welded shut the holes for the previous mirrors and the radio antenna








I also finally decided on paint. Goin with the two tone even though its not the original.
Colors are Rock moss green and Vanilla shake white

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Old 04-29-2010, 09:04 PM   #41 (permalink)
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Took me the better part of a week to do my roof.....hated every hand numbing minute, I bet there was 6 coats on it.
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Way to keep up on this thing. It is SO much work isn't it... Sanding until your hands feel all tingly for a few hours afterward! You are doing a great job. It looks like somebody welded the front fenders along the inner seam?? That's a bummer thing to try to fix so it looks right. Unreal on the rockers! Strange what people do to cover up nasty stuff like that. Your commitment to cleaning it up and replacing it is very cool and definitely the right thing to do. It sure looks nice and straight otherwise.
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Actually my hands were quite fine other then turning more coarse feeling, I was more tired then anything. The roof has quite a nasty crack in it, I'm going to spot weld it an then do a nice thin layer of filler. Yeah the Fenders were totally botched, I had my neighbor and good friend weld them a little better. I then will grind and clean up his welds and the previous ones, seal the bottom seam side of the fender and use filler to make the welded ares consistent(the only place that I will permit a lot). I plan to some day make some new ones.
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Sigh, just when I think i am ready to buy the panels they rack up the price on the darn things, 244$ with shipping for just one.....thats crazy. Don't have pics at the moment of current progress. Finished sanding the hood and put it back on the jeep, man without the fenders the thing looks kinda cool. Makes me consider tubular fenders for the future.
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If you have not ordered your panels yet i have
r&l quater panels
rear sill panel (below gate)
r&l floor pans
r&l lower door repair panels
r&l front cab corners
i started a wagon project last fall, then ran out of space to keep it
all that i have left is the panels
email me at cbeec2@sbcglobal.net
im sure i can save you a bunch of cash.
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Okay Im going to Bring this back to life. Finally going to get moving on finishing this project. I recently ordered the rocker panel for the right side, I will be purchasing replacement front Fenders as the ones I have have been deemed un savable.On February I will be ordering the new quarter panels and Window seals.


Only photos of current work are on another computer which is down so no photos for now.

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I'm subscribed, I like what you are doing.

I am fixing to tear into my 51 pretty soon.
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Im also working on a wagon, although slower than you are :P I got a bunch of my stuff from www.willysamerica.com. The website isnt helpful, you have to order the catalog to get prices and part numbers, and you have to order the over the phone, but it may be a good additional parts source for you if ya need it. For removing mass quantities of paint, try a 4.5" grinder with a 40 grit disc, it will take that crap off WAY faster than a random orbit, and not vibrate you to death. Ask me how i know. Also, havent seen any pictures of it yet, so make sure you double check the inner fenderwells in the rear, those are known for rusting, as well as the B and C pillars where they go through the floor and the bottom of the tailgate. Looks good, keep it up!
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@Thanks Beastus_Maximus, I appreciate the compliment as I am just a novice when it comes to this. I am more trained in Precision Machining, which has its benefits to this project.


@four27_cobra: Yeah Willys America is pretty nice, I have there Catalog. Just wish they would jump into the 21st Century a little with there page. As for the inner fender wells I have a solution to those as I know there gone, Im not going to put them back in as form what Midnightburn has said they just trap water and rust out. And as for the paint I switched it up and bought two cord drills for 10$ each along with sanding disk attachments. Rigged um up, put the nice filter masks on, lock the trigger on at max setting and ripped the paint right off. Those drills were way nicer to the hands. I am ordering my panels from Willys America as they still carry them at the cheapest price. God I wish they were still 175$ a piece and not 258$ a piece with Shipping.

Thanks for the encouragement guys, I really love this project and love doing every pain staking step of it. Now I've got some photos of some minor things I've done

Roof with my temp touch up paint

Paint Removed from roof

Rear Bench seat Alpha frame re-painted

Rear Bench Seat Beta frame re-painted
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Small update, Got my Quarter panels finally. Their very straight and not super tweaked, I also received my rocker panel for the right side as well as some of my new weather seals. Now I just need to get my new compressor so I can get cutting. Also be ordering a new set of leaf springs for the rear as my original set is just scrap metal now.

Stay tuned more work and photos to come in the next two weeks.

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