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Old 11-03-2009, 07:32 PM   #1 (permalink)
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YJ leafs/SOA on a 46 CJ2A?

I know this has probably been covered about a million and one times, but i cant find answers to my questions using the "search"

I'de like to lift my 2a just enough to run the 34" special service swampers. I figure that a SOA on YJ leafs should handle it. My questions are: will the weight of a stock cj2a(L-head) cause the springs to sag? and will i need to run some track bars with such a low power engine?

If anybody has experience from there own build i would love to hear it. Pictures are always a plus too.
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Old 11-03-2009, 08:23 PM   #2 (permalink)
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the amount of lift you'll get might be a bit too high if all ya wanna do is clear 34's. the springs arnt gona phase a whole lot. A willys dosent weigh much. I dont have a track bar on mine and seems to be ok.
heres mine on 36 iroks.


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Old 11-03-2009, 08:36 PM   #3 (permalink)
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That looks about right. Are those stock YJ springs? Also, how long are your shackles?

I posted a pic of my 2A on pg.13 of the ''...willys thread"
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Old 11-03-2009, 08:40 PM   #4 (permalink)
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yup. they're stock springs, the shackles are around 3.5-4 inchs long.
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Old 11-04-2009, 04:41 AM   #5 (permalink)
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heres mine on 35s with yj springs. I'm using 1.5" RE springs in the rear though, I couldnt get the stock ones to hold up in the rear. You will need a traction bar if you wheel it much. Its gonna sit kind of high at first, but the springs will settle in nicely after a few offroad trips.
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I get just as much pride as pain to see those cj-2a's like that. I'd have a hard time doin that to my 2a. Yours look so clean. have to do much body work to em?
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Old 11-04-2009, 07:29 AM   #8 (permalink)
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I get just as much pride as pain to see those cj-2a's like that. I'd have a hard time doin that to my 2a. Yours look so clean. have to do much body work to em?
Check out my build page in my sig and you'll see what mine looks like. Covered in bondo and rusted out underneath. Swear some people must have a stock in Bondo. I am actually switching over to a MB from the CJ2-a. It's rusted, but not covered in Bondo. I would absolutely NEVER do what I am doing to any original MB style Jeep or CJ2-a style Jeep.
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mine had ZERO rust, but because I was dumbass college kid the first time I built mine, I had comp cut the rear and hacked it all up. Heres a link to my most recent build up from last year.

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My questions are: will the weight of a stock cj2a(L-head) cause the springs to sag? and will i need to run some track bars with such a low power engine?
The L-head, even with the height of the block, is lighter than any inline 6cyl found in a YJ so the weight won't be an issue.

A track bar locates the axle from side to side. You won't find them on any CJ and YJ's work just fine without one.

You mention horsepower, though which makes me wonder if you really mean "traction" bar (or anti-wrap bar) instead of track bar.

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Heres what im doing it to. Its an all original #s matching(blah blah blah) '46 that somebody dropped a big ass tree on while cutting firewood. It was in real decent shape for being in NY. This is the first flattie that ive ever seen with original floors(not much there, but still original) Usually you see them with road signs for floors.

L-head runs great. Got another question- Has anyone ever used a Holley 1bbl on a L-head? I got one from a scout 152 4cyl that will bolt to the intake, just wondering.


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mine had ZERO rust, but because I was dumbass college kid the first time I built mine, I had comp cut the rear and hacked it all up. Heres a link to my most recent build up from last year.

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Can't believe you tore up a good M-38.

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ok, just got home from the shop. Waste of my time, got nothing accomplished. I tried to work on that scout in the back ground, one step forward two steps back. So i moved to the 2A, i put a 285/75-16 that i have on a stock 16X6 willys rim. Then i turned the steering wheel to see how bad it would hit, that went bad. Now im worried about the 34s clearing the springs.

Are you guys running stock axles?
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i'm running d44's out of a scout. the front is built pretty well. the rear is all scout.
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A guy I wheel with has 34's on his 3B. He's spring under running Holbrooks springs and it flexes very well. It's easy, and not to sound like a prick, but from your questions about SOA... you're not ready. It's not just putting the springs up top and away you go...
Look into the Holbrooks, very little fab work needed and it's dirt simple.
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In that pictures jeep was sitting on narrow trac CJ5 danas and 1.75" BP wheels. Tires are 33.14.50 boggers though.
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A guy I wheel with has 34's on his 3B. He's spring under running Holbrooks springs and it flexes very well. It's easy, and not to sound like a prick, but from your questions about SOA... you're not ready. It's not just putting the springs up top and away you go...
Look into the Holbrooks, very little fab work needed and it's dirt simple.
I know whats involved in doing a SOA. This isnt my first rodeo. I just had a couple of questions i wanted to ask before i tore into this Jeep.
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Can't believe you tore up a good M-38.

Your willys is one of my favorites on this site.
Thanks for the compliment! I cant believe I tore up a good M38 either. Belive it or not, I bought it from a junkyard when I was in college at Tx Tech about 9 years ago. I wheeled a 1980 Blazer, and decided I wanted a jeep. Me being a jeep noob I knew it was a military jeep, but thought it was just like any other "CJ5". after I had it all hacked up to fit chevy 1/2 ton axles and what not, was when I realized how few M38s are out there. lol
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