Early '45, Rat Flatty Build

[jeep937]

I've had this early '45 flatfender sitting in my yard for a while now. I just recently finished a Trans Am project and am moving on to the next. My TJ needs big money to move forward and my dad said he'd fund the build on this flatty if it was under a grand. So looks like the old yard art is next in line.


This jeep is all original except for the column shift. It runs and drives. It's just not safe. It's stuck in 4 low and pours oil out of the trans/case. I've planned on just making it safe with all the stock parts.

Option 1:
Solex carb $150
11" drums and new master with brake lines $300
rebuild the front 25 axle and warm over the rear 25 $400
rebuild the leaking trans and case $320
new steering components and 12 volt lights $100
Put this shit all back together and hope it works $1220


Option 2: The shit is too hard and or expensive to find parts. Hit the junk pile on the side of my shop

Usable engines:
Ford flathead V8
Odd Fire V6 (needs rebuilt)
mild 2 bolt SBC
L99 "baby LT1"

I've got an '84 CJ-7 sitting with what I think is a 465/205 in it
2 dana 20's and a short 300
Stock 7 D30 and AMC 20
Couple TJ 30's.

Out of this pile my first choice would be Oddfire/465/300--->CJ 30/20 with appropriate brakes and steering.
Will my '77, last of the oddfires, V6 mount to the 465? Are the bell-housings BOP like my TH350? If not I've got an Olds bell housing with what looks like a 4 bolt 3 speed mount. How hard and expensive would a 465 to 300 marriage be?


Next choice would be Ford Flathead/T90(if that's what it is?)/D20--->CJ30/20
I know I can get an Offy adapter for the Flathead/T90 and I'm pretty sure they mate fairly easy. I don't know if a Texas 20 would mount on the back of the T90 though.


My goal here is a safe jeep that I can put put around town and on easy trails for little money. I probably will not be painting but will make a nice cage.

In the meantime I'll be reading The Novak site and 2a.com again and searching P4x4 for the goods on this vintage iron.

[pbbelly]

The V6 uses the standard BOP bellhousing bolt pattern. The odd fire uses a unique flywheel. I think I have one, but the shipping would be killer.

Is the 465 already hooked up to the 300?

I think that you may run into driveshaft length issues with the 300, but if you go with the v6, you can scoot it as far forward as possible and gain some rear driveshaft length.

Consider adding the 30 in front and keeping the 18 and 41/44 rear.

If your mainly going to be putt, putting around town you could save $ by sticking with the T90. You can find GM bellhousing to T90 adapters for cheap-I just sold one with a shaft for $90.

Back in the day I made an adapter out of 1/2 plate once and used a short T-90 shaft. Worked great. A lot shorter than a factory adapter-I cut the firewall because I didn't want to change driveshaft lengths, but if you move the transmission/transfer case forward enough the firewall is not an issue.

[jeep937]

Originally Posted by pbbelly

The V6 uses the standard BOP bellhousing bolt pattern. The odd fire uses a unique flywheel. I think I have one, but the shipping would be killer.

Is the 465 already hooked up to the 300?

I think that you may run into driveshaft length issues with the 300, but if you go with the v6, you can scoot it as far forward as possible and gain some rear driveshaft length.

Consider adding the 30 in front and keeping the 18 and 41/44 rear.

If your mainly going to be putt, putting around town you could save $ by sticking with the T90. You can find GM bellhousing to T90 adapters for cheap-I just sold one with a shaft for $90.

Back in the day I made an adapter out of 1/2 plate once and used a short T-90 shaft. Worked great. A lot shorter than a factory adapter-I cut the firewall because I didn't want to change driveshaft lengths, but if you move the transmission/transfer case forward enough the firewall is not an issue.

Things to consider.

The (I think) 465/205 is still in the cj7 on the side of the shop. Does the 465 have bop provisions?>If not can I make a plate using my Bridgeport?

My oddfire fly wheel is a lighter evenfire flywheel I think. Thread below
http://pirate4x4.com/forum/showthrea...379&highlight=

My CJ 30 and 20 are wide track. So if I run one I have to run the other.


I guess the first step is to pull the trans and case out of the '45 and see if indeed it is a T90. I read on the Novak site that the early 2a's used a mil trans and mine is early with the mil axe/shovel body.

Once I have it out I'll go ahead and pull the trans and case out of the cj7 and see if infact they are a 465/205.

[jeep937]

I Just found this video from '08. I did the 12v conversion and got it running, kinda.. Some good parts in the mud and the engine sounds really nice..
YouTube - Got my cj2a running in 08