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Old 03-08-2011, 11:03 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Got my Uncle's CJ3B

My Uncle died back in 2003. He was my dad's twin brother. This Jeep has been in the family for a long time, in one form or another. I have a picture of a very early version of it when I was a teenager(I think).

My brother just had a kid and his wife said get rid of some projects. One of them he had mentioned he was going to sell was this 3B. My wife stepped up and said we would buy it and keep it in the family. My brother said never mind, he'd give it to us.

So they brought it down this week and I picked it up LATE last night.

Plan for now is to swap in the better axles, and trans from my CJ5 and build it as a nice little 3B for my boy to drive when he turns 16. My 5 will be sold or turned into a buggy, depending on what is left.

Specs, as I know them:

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Axles unknown, front is closed knuckle rear is two piece. Front has lock rite.
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Here is a pic from a LONG time ago
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Old 03-08-2011, 11:07 AM   #3 (permalink)
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Old 03-08-2011, 11:50 AM   #4 (permalink)
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looks good man, wish my '51 2a project started off as clean as that one haha
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looks good man, wish my '51 2a project started off as clean as that one haha
My Uncle put a LOT of work into it before he died.
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My own Flatty was my grandfathers.. Good for you on keeping it in the family.

I have used a lot of self-control to keep from making mine into a hardcore rig.. which would not leave much of the original Jeep intact.. I've kept the mods fairly simple and try to keep her true to the original concept. It's currently mothballed as a future project for my boys.. Needs fuel and a battery to run, but oil leaks have kept her off the trail for several years now.

A pic of the wife driving it ..she doesn't actually like to drive the old Jeep, but can .. see the scowl on her face.. she's pissed
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Completely awesome.

Let me know if you want a pair of offset D44's in the future....
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I checked out the title, and it is a '54. Unfortunately it has not been registered since 2005, and my brother never transfered it to Oregon when he moved.

Not looking forward to what THAT will cost me.
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And I am seriously tempted to keep the 3B for myself and put the 5 back together for the boy. The 3B has a LOT more sentimental value, and I would be more upset if he fawks it up.
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And I am seriously tempted to keep the 3B for myself and put the 5 back together for the boy. The 3B has a LOT more sentimental value, and I would be more upset if he fawks it up.
there ya go.
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there ya go.
Besides, if I build up the 5 to be really capable it gives me an easier argument to the wife that I need a buggy ..... so we can keep up with her son.
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Old 03-11-2011, 03:01 PM   #12 (permalink)
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cj3b's are cool!! bought mine 15 years ago. has been stretched 12 inches. i made a street/ sand jeep out of it. put a dana 30 in front, dana 44 postal in the rear, detroits in both. aluminum headed 428 ford w/built c6.built the dash and completely rewired with a painless kit. real sleeper on the streets........until i rost the tires in all three gears. LOL really fun to blaze the sand dunes with. good luck with your project!
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Completely awesome.

Let me know if you want a pair of offset D44's in the future....
Bringing this back up, I just might. I'd love to put front 44s under both the 5 and the 3B. The 5 has a single piece axle in the rear and should be good for the boy to drive around. A 44 in front and maybe a 8.8 or 9 in the rear would be killer in the 3B.
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Old 04-04-2011, 12:50 PM   #14 (permalink)
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Well I got to play around with the 3B a bit. I still need to wash it.

The trans is shot. The clutch and brake linkage is the stock thru floor, so that has to go. The t-case and overdrive shift smooth. Both axles have leaks and the rear does not turn smooth, may have some broken gears.

The interior is a mess and the wiring is frightening. I will definitely be going through and replacing all the wiring and gauges. The cage is solid but not mounted very well.

The good thing is the suspension is well laid out. I would like to see a bit more length in the drivetrain, the shock mounts are not set up right, and the front driveshaft doesn't look to be the right length.

My brother threw in a spare trans, that is supposed to be new. I'm thinking an automatic would be nicer, and with the overdrive I wouldn't need a 4 speed so a TH350 should be plenty. Just gotta find a BOP TH350(not sure if the ones Summit sells are the right ones ). At that point I start thinking about dropping a 4.3 in it too. EFI would be really nice. This will depend on how healthy the Dauntless is. My brother says it was recently rebuilt, and if he did the rebuild it will last and be strong.

Instead of rebuilding the axles I will either take the axles from the 5 or get a new set. If I go new I start seriously thinking about stretching the wheelbase up front.

So a typical old Jeep. The good news is there isn't too much work to do and the paint and is really nice. The most concerning news is that it has not been registered in California since 2005 when my brother moved to Oregon. That's gonna hurt.

Lots of potential, not a high priority. I will be taking some time, especially since I have toy hauler work to do, beer to brew, and hand surgery in a month. I do need to find out how much the registration is going to hurt.
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If mine would have already had a Buick swapped in, I would have left it. I ended up shoving a 4.3 with CPI into mine. The Buick motor makes a ton of torque for a 6. A th350 is a good choice as well. Damn near bulletproof combo.
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You got a good wife, offering to buy Jeeps. I would fix it but not too wild and keep it out of a 16 year old hands unless you are riding shotgun. Let him have the non sentimental rig for his first car.
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So the question I have is where can I get a th350 that will bolt between the 225 and the tcase?
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um, they're all over Craigslist... Front bell (BOP) is different, they are all the same out the rear.
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Old 04-19-2011, 09:30 AM   #19 (permalink)
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um, they're all over Craigslist... Front bell (BOP) is different, they are all the same out the rear.
Haven't checked craigslist. Good idea. Summit list som BOP th350s. Would be nice to get a new one.
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I'm almost positive that after seven years of not being registered, the dmv files are deleted, and you can re-register a vehicle for a very small fee (just need the signed pinkslip from the p.o.). Looks like you are just one year short, but just thought I'd throw that out there. Nice 3B btw, I used to think the high-hoods were ugly, but they've grown on me
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So if my intent is keeping this guy set up for mild wheeling with good street manners what would be some good axles that will give me strength and reliability without going real wide?

I'm thinking a 44 front and either 44 rear or a 8.8.

Any thoughts? It's been a while since I built anything, and the last thing I built('52 Willy pickup) had 1 ton drivetrain. This tiny shit is new to me.
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I'm thinking a 44 front and either 44 rear or a 8.8.
with similar aspirations, i'm thinking waggy d44's for mine. i'm not personally sure what the difference in widths is, but i do hope they are just a couple of inches wider. up to 4" i would be thrilled about.
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Waggy D44's from a quadratrac rig are both offset to the passenger side and match the old D18 very nicely.

WMS is about 61.5" IIRC.

I would run them as-is (well, apart from moving rear spring perches) if you didn't mind outboarding front springs to the 31-ish center pin distance. If you want to keep the narrow spring width, I would narrow the long side of both waggy axles by the amount of difference between the spring center distances.

My only request is to not kill a good waggy just for the axles. I have plenty of them out, and if you get a good deal on the neighbors old wagoneer, I will trade you and make sure you don't wind up out any money.

(this goes for anyone wanting to put waggy axles under pretty much anything)
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