Showing off my Willys - Pirate4x4.Com : 4x4 and Off-Road Forum
 
Pirate4x4.Com : 4x4 and Off-Road Forum  

Go Back   Pirate4x4.Com : 4x4 and Off-Road Forum > Brand Specific Tech > Jeep - Willys
Notices

Reply
 
Share Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 03-27-2011, 02:04 PM   #1 (permalink)
Registered User
 
Join Date: Oct 2010
Member # 171057
Location: Louisville, CO
Posts: 688
Showing off my Willys

Thank heavens, finally forum where i feel inspired to start a thread and show mine off. this won't be the most cutting edge or interesting thread by any stretch of the imagination, but i'm stoked about it.

Adding our latest toy to our collection has brought me a ton of happiness, more than i would have ever thought. i never saw myself owning an antique jeep, it just sort of happened.

So last April, i moved out of Chicago Illinois and landed myself in Louisville, CO, just outside of Boulder. To make a long story short, i've been heading out this was for years for the climbing, biking and skiing, and i'd always crash at my friend Ambers house. eventually Amber moved on from climbing partner, to girlfriend, to fiance, and we had to decide which one of us would relocate.

I didn't put up much of a fight with her, but it took awhile to convince the corporate headquarters down in Dallas that we needed a front range branch office for our exterior facade consulting firm. fortunately, the economy tanked, the workload in Chicago evaporated, and convincing them that we best expand into other markets got easier.

So, with our newly combined household, our toy collection was pretty well rounded out. 10 top of the line mountain bikes, enough climbing gear to cover El Cap, The Diamond, K2, Moab and everything in between, and we found ourselves punishing our general adventure mobile a little bit harder than i'm sure Ford ever intended. Our little Ford Escape has done more wheeling around Utah and Colorado than most peoples Jeeps ever do, so the next logical step was that we add a Jeep to our collection.

In beginning my research, I was pretty well set on an LJ, but knowing it would take awhile to get the business off the ground, this was going to be a distant goal.

Then Amber solved that problem. Unbeknown to me, she was harboring a fascination for something a little more vintage.

So we were out and about, climbing around up in RMNP and took the scenic road out to Nederland on the way to home to stop for some pork and beers, coming through the roundabout she spotted this:



Amber was quite clear that this was pretty much what she had in mind. i was a bit skeptical as i knew NOTHING about jeeps of that vintage. I vowed to do some research, and we'd talk about it. As i learned more, i became a bit obsessed and determined we had to have it, if ka willed it so. we were both pretty busy with travels and the wedding, and decided to shelve the idea for a month or so until things calmed down a bit.

3 months later, it was still there. I called up the guy and made an offer, one quite lower than his asking price, but fair a round number that Amber and I could split 50/50 out of pocket without much damage. To my surprise, he readily accepted and even towed home for me.

My bride is obviously stoked about our first piece of common property.





I'll elaborate some more, but at the moment i must be off to the airport. Here she is as of last friday:

__________________
1950 CJ3A Wilma FJ60 axle build in progress
1999 Ford F350 PSD Betty tow pig/adventurmobile
euroford is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-27-2011, 05:25 PM   #2 (permalink)
No comment
 
camo's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2000
Member # 4
Location: Rubicon
Posts: 27,132
Blog Entries: 1
Send a message via Yahoo to camo
Quote:
Originally Posted by euroford View Post

My bride is obviously stoked about our first piece of common property.

G]
Pirate stamp of approval on this woman.

Oh and I see the first 2 mods are equally up to standards.... Ditching the fender flares and adding a set of Bfg km2
camo is offline   Reply With Quote
Sponsored Links
Old 03-27-2011, 06:01 PM   #3 (permalink)
Feeling chuffed.
 
Simon Slapstick's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Member # 75214
Location: Hampshire, UK / Tucson, AZ
Posts: 784
Sweet Jeep, pretty much what I want one day to pootle round the desert in..
Simon Slapstick is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 03-28-2011, 09:28 AM   #4 (permalink)
Registered User
 
Join Date: Oct 2010
Member # 171057
Location: Louisville, CO
Posts: 688
Quote:
Originally Posted by camo View Post
Pirate stamp of approval on this woman.

Oh and I see the first 2 mods are equally up to standards.... Ditching the fender flares and adding a set of Bfg km2
Yeah, i'm a lucky guy to have such a rad partner in crime. Yeah those fender flare were hideous, the PO was pretty good at bolting crap onto this poor thing, i think i pretty much spent the first month improving it by taking stuff off.

Those are actually 32x11.5 GY MT/R's, i hope this still meets approval.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Simon Slapstick View Post
Sweet Jeep, pretty much what I want one day to pootle round the desert in..
Thats pretty much exactly as we intend to use it. pootling around the CO mountains and utah dez.
__________________
1950 CJ3A Wilma FJ60 axle build in progress
1999 Ford F350 PSD Betty tow pig/adventurmobile
euroford is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-28-2011, 10:18 AM   #5 (permalink)
Registered User
 
Join Date: Oct 2010
Member # 171057
Location: Louisville, CO
Posts: 688
Okay, so to expand on my little project here, let me finish setting the stage.

The Overall Goal:

The concept here, is make this thing as much of a capable, drivable, little fun wheeling adventure mobile as possible, without upsetting its vintage character. Primarily we are climbers and mountain bikers and we intend to use it to augment those activities and fill in the rest days. sometimes ya want to go play in the mountains, but just aren't up to the cardio output of pedaling or hiking yaknow.

we also need to stop beating the snot out of our escape. We love climbing at Turkey Rocks down in the South Platte area, its about a one hour drive from home and includes a bit of wheeling, pretty much right on the edge of what we feel we can get away with in the escape.

So to meet those ends, we won't touch the body. as much as it makes sense to comp cut the thing and stretch the wheelbase, we ain't gunna do it.

I am very glad that it has the 225 Dauntless engine. it appears to run very well and fits with a ton of room to spare.

The stock tranny has to go. It works for now, but the syncro's are toasted. In the next week or so, i'm going to be doing a tree removal job for a guy i met on colorado4x4.org, in return he's hooking me up with an SM465.

The stock steering also has to go. I've been through the whole thing, new sector shaft and bushings, new drag link bushing, rebuilt the bellcrank pivot, and new TRE's, all to little benefit. Then i trigged to the fact that the PO shackle lift f'd up the caster. Adding some 2deg. caster plates made a big difference. this week i'm picking up some higher quality 4deg. plates, i expect this will help allot, but i'm still not going to be 100% happy with it.

Saginaw power steering is definitely coming soon. Oddly enough, i'm originally from Midland Michigan, right next to saginaw, and my father now retired is enjoying his pension earned while working at saginaw steering gear back in the 60's and 70's.


so.... this is going to be a bit of a slow process. like i said, i'm busy getting a construction consulting office going in a down economy, so it will take a bit for the money tree to get growing.

for the time being, i've kept myself busy enough just doing the little fix-em-up jobbers, and its actually yielded some fantastic results.


first and foremost, i attached the body. not much rust, and though i can't say he was an excellent fabricator, the PO managed to keep it pretty much whole. A bunch of sanding, some bondo and several cans of primer made the body presentable.



I snagged some brackets and yanked the hilift off the escapes roof rack and got it places in the bed.



I yanked out the interior and gave it a coat of rustoleum hammered grey paint. This stuff goes on great and seams to have a nearly magical ability to make old metal look good.



Not being used to old jeeps and the steering being as sketchy as it is, some restraints were very desirable. Thanks to craigslist i got a nice deal on these TRW harnesses. The bottom is bolted into the body mounts, and the shoulder straps are wrapped around the hilift. yeah, i know this isn't ideal, i need to add a harness bar the the cage, but its a whole lot better than nothing, and everybody seams to appreciate the added security.



you can also see that used the same hammered grey on the grill and windshield. the body will ultimately be "horizon blue".


around this time, we finally got it out for its first day of wheeling. my stepson and i drove it down to left hand canyon. we had a total blast, and found it to be much more capable that i actually thought it would be.




The suspension is brutally stiff, but mostly intact. I pulled the front and rear springs, completely disassembled them, flap disked off all of the rust, chamfered the edges, repainted and reassembled the leaves with a thick layer of grease in between. I also replaced all of the u-bolts, hardware, spring plates and added new longer brake lines.



I fabricated new spring eye bushings utilizing parts left over from suspension upgrades on my focus.





After scoring the new tires, i pulled the springs out and removed one leaf from each pack. this made a subtle yet critical improvement in the ride quality.


So, i finally got to take it out biking. strapped my transition bottlerocket to the back and rode down to the golden bike park.




okay, enough for now. sorry for the scattershot image sizing. now that i have a thread to manage i'll get better organized.
__________________
1950 CJ3A Wilma FJ60 axle build in progress
1999 Ford F350 PSD Betty tow pig/adventurmobile

Last edited by euroford; 03-28-2011 at 10:20 AM.
euroford is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-29-2011, 10:01 AM   #6 (permalink)
Registered User
 
Join Date: Oct 2010
Member # 171057
Location: Louisville, CO
Posts: 688
the rig also came with this totally sweet Kayline soft top. I dig that it was made in Denver.

__________________
1950 CJ3A Wilma FJ60 axle build in progress
1999 Ford F350 PSD Betty tow pig/adventurmobile
euroford is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-18-2011, 08:25 AM   #7 (permalink)
Registered User
 
Join Date: Oct 2010
Member # 171057
Location: Louisville, CO
Posts: 688
i manage to maintain working the willys almost daily, but allot of it is not really that photo or post worthy, like replacing my oil pan gasket, or installing some caster shims....

this weekend i was fairly productive though, installed a harness bar into the cage. major improvement in comfort and safety, and now i'll be able to relocate the hi-lift and have room for the back seat.



i also managed to come across a hunk of steel that perfectly matched my vision for a new bumper. really glad to have the cobbled piece of crap off of there.

__________________
1950 CJ3A Wilma FJ60 axle build in progress
1999 Ford F350 PSD Betty tow pig/adventurmobile
euroford is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-18-2011, 04:04 PM   #8 (permalink)
Wheeler
 
BeaverTown's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Member # 132328
Location: Hemlock, MI
Posts: 178
Wish mine was this clean, looking great!
BeaverTown is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-18-2011, 11:45 PM   #9 (permalink)
Registered User
 
Join Date: Apr 2001
Member # 4321
Location: Double Shoals, NC
Posts: 1,665
Send a message via ICQ to DEnd Send a message via AIM to DEnd Send a message via MSN to DEnd Send a message via Yahoo to DEnd
This pic makes your tires look huge.

I love these classic style Flatties.
__________________
Lame Sig Line

Last edited by DEnd; 04-18-2011 at 11:45 PM.
DEnd is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-19-2011, 06:51 AM   #10 (permalink)
Registered User
 
Join Date: Oct 2010
Member # 171057
Location: Louisville, CO
Posts: 688
Quote:
Originally Posted by DEnd View Post
This pic makes your tires look huge.

11mm wide angle lens on my D200

actually, at least to me, when standing next to it the tires look big proportionately to the little flatty.
__________________
1950 CJ3A Wilma FJ60 axle build in progress
1999 Ford F350 PSD Betty tow pig/adventurmobile

Last edited by euroford; 04-19-2011 at 06:51 AM.
euroford is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-01-2011, 09:56 PM   #11 (permalink)
Registered User
 
Join Date: Oct 2010
Member # 171057
Location: Louisville, CO
Posts: 688
Had her out for a nice, but brief test run today. the wife had some things to do around the house and i was jonesing to get closer to the hills, so i bolted down to left hand canyon for a short drive.



her road manners have gotten pretty darn good, driving into boulder used to be quite an adventure, now its just plain fun. in the trail she's doing well, though i need to get some bumpstops and some wheel spacers. the 32x11.5 tires rub pretty bad in the back, and i'd like some more turning radius in the front. the suspension feels pretty darn good, but i'd like to try pulling out another leaf, but don't think that would be a good idea without some bumps first.

in the meantime, i've been busy trying to clean up the clusterfrig of the front frame rails, griding out the ghetto hackjob reinforcing from the PO and making some plates to box them in.

i've got plates made for the inside of both sides that run from the cross-member to the front of the rails, backing plates so i can weld up the holes drilled in the top of the frame rails, and next i'm going to build plates to wrap the top/front/bottom of the frame rail ends. also made some shackle/tow bar tabs for the bumper. hopefully we'll be welding next weekend, then its time for a winch plate.



havin allot of fun playin with my willys!
__________________
1950 CJ3A Wilma FJ60 axle build in progress
1999 Ford F350 PSD Betty tow pig/adventurmobile
euroford is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-24-2011, 09:00 PM   #12 (permalink)
Registered User
 
Join Date: Oct 2010
Member # 171057
Location: Louisville, CO
Posts: 688
sprayed on some new blue... super happy with it!

tomorrow after work work i'll be taking it over to my buddies house to burn on all the parts i recently built.

__________________
1950 CJ3A Wilma FJ60 axle build in progress
1999 Ford F350 PSD Betty tow pig/adventurmobile
euroford is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-07-2011, 09:47 AM   #13 (permalink)
Registered User
 
Join Date: Oct 2010
Member # 171057
Location: Louisville, CO
Posts: 688
Scored an unknown condition T90/D18 for free from a fellow colorado4x4.org member, going to rebuild that then swap it in. I planned to go with an SM465, but you can't beat the fact that i'll have a nice running setup for the cost of a minor rebuild kit.



in the meantime, aside from some total crap syncro's, she's running great and got her out for some nice play, and her longest trip yet. drove her from louisville up past lyons to button rock resi for some trout fishing.



an awesome day to drive the willys in the foothills, and even had some luck with the fishing.

__________________
1950 CJ3A Wilma FJ60 axle build in progress
1999 Ford F350 PSD Betty tow pig/adventurmobile
euroford is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-16-2011, 05:58 PM   #14 (permalink)
Registered User
 
Willys 4x4's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Member # 133124
Location: Denver, Colorado
Posts: 178
Congrats on the jeep and your Partner in crime, hard to find women who like 4x4 and jeeps. You got a nice and simple rig there and like the style your going with, functional and classic.

I live in Denver so might see you rig around sometime as I wheel and go fishing and camping myself.

Matt
__________________
62 Willys Wagon [url]http://pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?t=808447&highlight[/url]
Willys 4x4 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-18-2011, 09:56 AM   #15 (permalink)
Registered User
 
Join Date: Oct 2010
Member # 171057
Location: Louisville, CO
Posts: 688
Thanks for the compliments! The little rig is coming together into a great little machine, I actually drove it from home in Louisville into Denver the other day and picked up my trans rebuild parts at Mile Hi Jeep, he longest drive yet, so i'm comfortable to declare that she's fully roadworthy and will have her out and about quite a bit. If you see my driving give me a vigorous wave and i'll be happy to pull over and BS for a couple. Obviously if i'm in the willys i'm not in any sort of hurry!

Sorry for the totally crappy cameraphone pick, i'm excited to have gotten her new to her T90 reassembled. got the new D18 torn apart yesterday as well.

In other news, work is picking up, so hopefully i'll be able to earmark some cheese for some more progress on the rig!

__________________
1950 CJ3A Wilma FJ60 axle build in progress
1999 Ford F350 PSD Betty tow pig/adventurmobile
euroford is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-26-2011, 04:26 PM   #16 (permalink)
Registered User
 
Join Date: Oct 2010
Member # 171057
Location: Louisville, CO
Posts: 688
About time i update this, before i put it to sleep for a bit. Closing on a new house in a couple of weeks, so obviously that will keep me busy for a bit, and sideline the jeep.

which is all good, because the trans n tcase proj is done and really i'd be happy to just drive it for the rest of the summer. huge improvement, i found the existing trans didn't even have syncro clutches.... the PO was one hell of a mechanic.

rebuilds done, i scored this cheesy little skid plate as well. better than the one i had! (none).



final coat of red per my co-owners request.



getting that heavy chunk of metal back up there was lots of fun. very intresting come-along / ratchet strap gymnastics.

__________________
1950 CJ3A Wilma FJ60 axle build in progress
1999 Ford F350 PSD Betty tow pig/adventurmobile
euroford is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-27-2011, 08:59 PM   #17 (permalink)
Registered User
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Member # 144281
Location: Upstate NY
Posts: 332
Wow, I can't believe how solid your jeep is! I am extremely jealous, here in NY everything of this vintage rotted away decades ago. Beautiful ride my man!!

Whats your average cruising speed on highway?
wesfab is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-28-2011, 04:04 AM   #18 (permalink)
Banned
 
Join Date: Apr 2011
Member # 188016
Location: To be announced
Posts: 85
You need to send that Jeep to me,I'll pay the postage
I got the Willys is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-31-2011, 02:15 PM   #19 (permalink)
Registered User
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Member # 66838
Location: Harrison, AR
Posts: 1,238
Quote:
Originally Posted by I got the Willys View Post
You need to send that Jeep to me,I'll pay the postage
No postage needed I will pick it up and take good care of it
Great find for you and GF, enjoy.
__________________
JT Automotive & Off Road Harrison Ar Shop 870 743 3188 Cell 870 204 2324
katesoffspring is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-01-2011, 11:52 AM   #20 (permalink)
Registered User
 
Join Date: Oct 2010
Member # 171057
Location: Louisville, CO
Posts: 688
thanks for the compliments guys! though i do have to admit, she's not nearly as pristine as she looks, plenty of shoddy bodywork/rust repair from the previous owner smoothed out with too much bondo. but, if your not being too picky she looks awfully nice, and drives great.

She does 45-50 pretty well on a straight highway, and i'm happy to head up and down the canyons at 40 or so. The 225 seams to be pretty comfortable at those speeds, but the stiff springs and ross steering keep the average speeds down more than anything else.

as she is now, she's fun to drive around town and head up for the local wheeling in the front range.

After i get the family moved and some other things taken care of in the new house i'm going to plow into a saginaw conversion and some holbrook springs. pretty confident that i'll need an overdrive after doing that.
__________________
1950 CJ3A Wilma FJ60 axle build in progress
1999 Ford F350 PSD Betty tow pig/adventurmobile
euroford is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-01-2011, 01:56 PM   #21 (permalink)
Registered User
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Member # 80328
Location: Sykesville MD
Posts: 1,005
I like the direction you are going with the Flatty. Keep us posted on your progress.
__________________
Script GPW project in progress.
b4wscrambler is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-01-2011, 04:42 PM   #22 (permalink)
Got Willy?
 
53Willy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2011
Member # 186284
Location: Wichititty, Kansas
Posts: 87
I see Louisville, Co is about 5300ft. What elevations do you run too, and what you run for a Carb?
53Willy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-01-2011, 05:03 PM   #23 (permalink)
Zeus of the Sluice
 
BEAR's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2000
Member # 1746
Location: Flathead Lake MT
Posts: 3,836
Damn thats one sweet flatty!
Thanks for sharing
__________________
Still Politically Uncorrect
BEAR is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-02-2011, 07:50 AM   #24 (permalink)
Registered User
 
Join Date: Oct 2010
Member # 171057
Location: Louisville, CO
Posts: 688
Quote:
Originally Posted by 53Willy View Post
I see Louisville, Co is about 5300ft. What elevations do you run too, and what you run for a Carb?
it has a 2 barrel, i'll be honest here that this is about my extent of knowledge on the thing. this is the first time i've owned a carb'd vehicle, i just sort of missed that generation, even my dad swapped his highly built 64 gto to FI when i was a teenager and told me to never go back. I have WAY more exposure to programming stand alone engine management....

I have a 4 barrel manifold that i picked up sitting in the garage, but i'm not sure what i'll necessarily do with it. as it is, the engine starts easy and runs strong, other than fixing a leaky oil pan and tuning up the oil pump the motor hasn't asked for attention. She's been up pretty close to 11,000 feet without any real notable change in performance. maybe a benefit of buying her in Nederland is that she's been tuned for higher elevation already.
__________________
1950 CJ3A Wilma FJ60 axle build in progress
1999 Ford F350 PSD Betty tow pig/adventurmobile
euroford is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-06-2011, 08:04 AM   #25 (permalink)
Registered User
 
Join Date: Oct 2010
Member # 171057
Location: Louisville, CO
Posts: 688
So i haven't updated in a little while, a simple reason for that, with moving into the new house i haven't had a chance to do jack squat with the willys lately. Tools aren't even unpacked!!

so, with the holiday weekend upon us, it hit me like a ton of bricks that summer would soon be switching to ski season and motivations would soon swing away from mountain biking and jeeping to racking up millage at A Basin. Basically i had planned myself a handful of "must do's" for the summer and I hadn't ticked any of them yet. Rollins Pass, Jenny Creek, Middle St. Vrain and Coney Flats should all be within grasp of the willys, and making the time to do it.

Thankfully with the holiday weekend we had saturday to work around the house, sunday to shred winter park on the bikes, and monday free. so our son took off with a friend, and my wife and I packed up the willys to head up rollins pass. we had a totally great time and it was nice to finally head out on an all day adventure in the hills with it, we definitely learned some things though.

those stock springs GOT TO GO!!!! we ended up turning around at yankee doodle lake. we could have made the top no problem, but the stiff springs really limited our travel speed and we just ran out of time, not to mention we were getting pretty darn tired of being bounced around that hard. even with the 32" tires aired way down it was just brutal. she's always performed very well on stuff far more technical than this, but being in a situation where we needed to cover miles of rough road vs. a handful of technical obstacles was enlightening.

so, i don't think we'll make our whole ticklist for this summer and will instead save it for next. time to get some work done around the house, get my shop put together, and get to work on making the jeep a wee bit more faster n more comfy.

though i do have to say, its pretty darn rad getting that many compliments on the old jeep. we saw a ton of other rigs this weekend and just about everybody had to hurl a compliment our way.

jenny lake and the jk we hooked up with. nice dude, wish i'd gotten his email or something.



happy wife enjoying her jeep, the view, a pbr and a sammich



this trail would be more fun with some more technical challenge, but it makes up for it in scenery.

__________________
1950 CJ3A Wilma FJ60 axle build in progress
1999 Ford F350 PSD Betty tow pig/adventurmobile
euroford is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On



All times are GMT -7. The time now is 08:55 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.6
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Search Engine Optimization by vBSEO 3.6.0 ©2011, Crawlability, Inc.