WILLYS Cage Inspiration Thread

[1946CJ2]

Let's do an official cage building inspiration thread. It's one of those items that we all need no matter what our diffs/tires/engine combo may be.

I am getting ready to build my cage and have been looking at a lot of build threads for ideas. It would be easier if we had one thread for ideas. I do not care what the cage is made of (dom,hrew,pipe) this is not the spot for that disscussion. I am looking for design pictures that will help others build their cage. Also pics of the frame tie ins.

If you have pictures that you stole from some other post or if it is not you cage, I do not care just post the pics for build ideas.

Useful links that I have found:

link to bendin' tube 101

Link to the TJ Cage Inspiration Thread

tube size vs strength and other info

Roll Cage 101

Chop saw notching 101

chopsaw notching calculator

how I sleeved a splice

I found a tube contour gauge at speedway motors. Thought this might help someone else.
http://www.speedwaymotors.com/Pipema...bing,9695.html

[1946CJ2]

I bought the dom for my cage today. They had 5- 18' sticks of 1.75 x .120 in stock @ $4.05 a foot. I will have to go down and pick it up sometime this week.

I like the cages that have a flat top with an a to c hoop vs side to side.



Is there any reason I should or should not put a side bend in the top of the hoop(the bend just in front of the b post) ? I like the idea of having the cage wider near my head vs running the top straight back from a to c.




link to the build with this cage

[1946CJ2]

I also like rckme52's cage. I want my cage to be safe but not overbuilt. I think he did a good job of this.

[sammyg]

Bend the cage to fit arround the lollipops. It's getting rebuilt to fit under my half cab soon here.

[CJ2ota]

The no tube bender cage. Its true you don't have to have a bender to build a bad ass cage!! (Yes I used the rear roll bar that came with the jeep)

[RATHEFSJMAN]

That's sketchy as he'll man I wouldn't drive that damn thing down a pea gravel road my less off road you need to pull that junk out and scrap it

[jeep937]

What's with that one really nice FF with the super high cage with like 3 ft of head room?

[1946CJ2]

Originally Posted by jeep937

What's with that one really nice FF with the super high cage with like 3 ft of head room?

Are you talking about Brians?

http://home.comcast.net/~42gpw/index.html

http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showt...ame+build+cj2a

[sammyg]

Originally Posted by 1946CJ2

Are you talking about Brians?

http://home.comcast.net/~42gpw/index.html

http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showt...ame+build+cj2a

Any time I hear "Cage" and "3 feet of head room" I'm damn positive it's brians

[sammyg]

Originally Posted by CJ2ota

The no tube bender cage. Its true you don't have to have a bender to build a bad ass cage!! (Yes I used the rear roll bar that came with the jeep)

Please please please scrap that cage. I know there's not many off road or fab shops in Santa Fe, but we got tons down here in Albuquerque. My cage was ~$500 out the door, I provided the DOM, and it provided peace of mind.

[carslut]

Originally Posted by CJ2ota

(Yes I used the rear roll bar that came with the jeep)

last words? ...... cheap doesn't = living thur an roll

[euroford]

awesome. this thread was much needed. god why do so many people put some hideous cages on these things?

[Brian1]

Originally Posted by 1946CJ2

Are you talking about Brians?

Originally Posted by sammyg

Any time I hear "Cage" and "3 feet of head room" I'm damn positive it's brians

Thanks And its hardly 3' of headroom, more like 8"-10" which is actually really nice.

Here are a few old pictures when it was first built ~6 years ago. If I was to do it again today it would be different as I have learned alot since then and yes it would be a bit shorter. This was my first cage buld.

[fcfred]

mine is very square, made out of 1.5 Chromo, seats attached to cage.
to do it again I'd angle the top in a little.

I like Christian Hazels cage.
http://www.jpmagazine.com/projectbui..._3a/index.html

and Soni's cage

http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showt...php?p=12815273

though he doesn't have the cage in it anymore.

http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showt...php?p=12336558

[CJ2ota]

Originally Posted by sammyg

Please please please scrap that cage. I know there's not many off road or fab shops in Santa Fe, but we got tons down here in Albuquerque. My cage was ~$500 out the door, I provided the DOM, and it provided peace of mind.

If mine is such a piece of shit tell me whats structurally not sound on it? Lets see yours? I've been bashing the thing off or rocks the last few weeks and it has not even budged. You don't need a tube bender to make something strong really point out a week point? I challenge you! And just remember I've still got my $500 and piece of mind!

[CJ2ota]

Originally Posted by RATHEFSJMAN

That's sketchy as he'll man I wouldn't drive that damn thing down a pea gravel road my less off road you need to pull that junk out and scrap it

Same to you if its so sketchy tell me what part of it is. You to idiots don't know shit other than how to spend money and criticize. I hate busting out this card but I'm pretty sure that there is only one of us that has an engineering degree with a background in structural steel and its not you two idiots!

You've been challenged if its scrap show me a week point and i'll show you where you are wrong!

[CJ2ota]

Originally Posted by sammyg

Bend the cage to fit arround the lollipops. It's getting rebuilt to fit under my half cab soon here.

Oh wait this is yours!!! Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahah.....ha hahahahahahahahahahaha......hahahahahahahahahahaha hahahahaha!!

You have to be shitting me!!! WTF is that front hoop! haha yep you can use a bender to put a huge failure zone in your cage you don't have any corner gussets on anything! no center support in your front or rear roll hoop no diagonal support and I really really don't want to see how its connected to the floor!!! hahahaha

You sir are an idiot!!!!

[CJ2ota]

I say floor cause the way you had this thing built I doubt any of the morons standing around had the sense to tie it into the frame!!! hahahahaha Hey I've got an idea lets put em on general 4x4 discussion and see which cage people would rather be in when invloved in a roll!! hahaha

[sammyg]

Originally Posted by CJ2ota

I say floor cause the way you had this thing built I doubt any of the morons standing around had the sense to tie it into the frame!!! hahahahaha Hey I've got an idea lets put em on general 4x4 discussion and see which cage people would rather be in when invloved in a roll!! hahaha

Ok, if you don't want to take my advice, fine, people actually care enough to see you not get hurt. I see you have to call me an idiot, because you're butthurt. It's tied into the frame, 6 point. Knowing that you're from Santa Fe you're probably a fudge packer anyway.
Happy trails

[sammyg]

Originally Posted by CJ2ota

If mine is such a piece of shit tell me whats structurally not sound on it? Lets see yours? I've been bashing the thing off or rocks the last few weeks and it has not even budged. You don't need a tube bender to make something strong really point out a week point? I challenge you! And just remember I've still got my $500 and piece of mind!

Are any of the weld joints sleeved?

by the way, it's peace of mind. Obviously you don't have a "piece" of a mind.

[CJ2ota]

Originally Posted by sammyg

Are any of the weld joints sleeved?

by the way, it's peace of mind. Obviously you don't have a "piece" of a mind.

Thanks for the lesson! Whats next multivariable calculus? Ok. Oh no wait I know what would be fun lets draw some shear and bending moment diagrams and see who gets the right answer? Hmmm something tells me you don't have a clue what I'm talking about......

Are any of my welds sleeved? If you didn't know the answer to this question why were you so quick to criticize?? To answer your question no. Are yours?? Any how I don't see how that is going to help that piece (not peace thanks!) of shit waste of DOM that someone crapped on your rig. Here is the deal a properly built cage will attempt to put as many of the members in tension and compression not bending so that it acts like a truss. For an idiot like yourself this can be simply translated into lots of triangles built with straight members. My cage with the cross in the rear hoop and gussets in the corners are good examples. Another good example is it the way to tall cage pictured above. (maybe the driver is really tall I don't know or care but anyway its built correctly)

You shouldn't comment on things that you know nothing about cause it really brings out your ignorance. Bet you miss that DOM and $500 now huh?

[1946CJ2]

You guys do not like each others cage build, and thats fine. I do not want this thread to be about guys name calling, pissing back and forth about their cages. If you do not like something about someones cage, it is ok to point out the weak point, but do not keep bitchin'.

[1946CJ2]

We need more cage pictures and if the cage picture has a lady in it, even better.

[CJ2ota]

Originally Posted by 1946CJ2

You guys do not like each others cage build, and thats fine. I do not want this thread to be about guys name calling, pissing back and forth about their cages. If you do not like something about someones cage, it is ok to point out the weak point, but do not keep bitchin'.

Sorry to highjack your thread enought said. Messge me if you have anything more to say.

[CJ2ota]

Originally Posted by carslut

last words? ...... cheap doesn't = living thur an roll

Well put! I drilled the factory roll hoop and it appeared to be about 2" OD and 0.140 wall thickness so I deemed it to be adequate. It may be 0.120 wall DOM its Hard to tell just drilling a hole but I know its not any thinner than that.
Correct me if I'm wrong but alot of people are building their cages of 0.120 DOM.