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Old 07-16-2011, 05:00 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Willys wagon axle width?

How wide is a Willys Wagon? I am wondering what size vehicle axle would be a good donor. A 66-77 bronco, or a full size 78-79 bronco?
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tub is 67" outside of body at the rear wheel wells.

donor axle depends on what your plans for the thing are.
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I've seen a wagon set right on an early Bronc chassis, it was a good fit.
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I've seen a wagon set right on an early Bronc chassis, it was a good fit.
I thought they were a lot longer than a classic Bronco? I am wanting something close to the stock axle width.
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I just read that Bronco's have 92" and Willys have 118".
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tub is 67" outside of body at the rear wheel wells.

donor axle depends on what your plans for the thing are.
Then it looks like early Bronco axles will be the right width then. They are 70" wide at the fenders.
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I just read that Bronco's have 92" and Willys have 118".
A Willys truck might be 118", but a Wagon is around 104".
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I've seen a wagon set right on an early Bronc chassis, it was a good fit.
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A Willys truck might be 118", but a Wagon is around 104".
So, the wagon has a 104" wheelbase?

I just sold my BJ60 and am looking to build something different and cool. Saw my first Jeepster wagon when I was 13. My dad and I pulled over on our way up to our cabin in WV. It was for sale so we poked around a bit. Small block Ford it seemed and it was a complete rot box. I have wanted one ever since. Im not a rock crawler or anything like that so Im not looking to do anything extreme. I mostly fish and camp so I am looking to run 33s like what I ran on my 60. I have access to a Range Rover Classic chassis in the LWB form which has a 108" wheelbase and completely boxed that can be cut down. The track width is about 58.5" to 59" and I am very familiar with the suspension system and how well it works.

Couple of questions:
- Whats the width of the stock Willys axles?
- What do you think of this? Its a longer chassis and is often times cut down to go under Series trucks so it has the extra material to be cut down a couple of inches.

I really want to build a wagon to be my camping/ wheeling truck and this chassis gets me good axles, a good suspension design and power steering...if it can be made to fit. I would rather start with a strong frame than spend many hours trying to make the original frame stronger. Plus, I get coils which I would try and add to the Willys chassis anyway (could be a DD and although leafs can be made to ride well, coils are SO much nicer).
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Yes, Willys wagon is a 104" wheelbase. Here is a picture of mine sitting on a basicly stock LJ frame.

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Yes, Willys wagon is a 104" wheelbase. Here is a picture of mine sitting on a basicly stock LJ frame.

Damn, that looks pretty freakin close to perfect. Whats the difference in width, as in frame rails? What axles are you running on there right now? Looks like 1 tons? This would be so much easier for me than having to dick with a LWB Range Rover Classic.
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Damn, that looks pretty freakin close to perfect. Whats the difference in width, as in frame rails? What axles are you running on there right now? Looks like 1 tons? This would be so much easier for me than having to dick with a LWB Range Rover Classic.
I dont recall the actual difference in frame with details, but upon doing some research it was amazing close, so much infact that the stock grill mount and frame mount are used. others were rusted on the body so i remade those. the axle width is like 58-60. dont remember exactly. But at that width, and usign stock ford E350 wheels as rolls it tucks perfectly into the body for a stock look (eventually when its ready for bigger tires, it'll have some, but damn good looking rollers)

Its an abortion of a project.. 1955 willys body, 2005 wrangler unlimited frame and suspension. 1989 camaro TPI 350, dodge/ford 1 ton axles

Its been a while since i've worked on it since i am in texas and its in california

http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showt...ghlight=willys

check out this thread, lots of resources piled into one thread. Dimwatt also did a wrangler/wagon conversion, except he used a regular length rubicon, and used everything from the frame/suspension, motor and even electronics.
/forum/jeep-willys/867585-willys-all-things-relevant.html
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I know this thread is a couple of weeks old, but will the willys fit on a scrambler frame? I have heard TDK makes cj frames and also yj so i figure i can spend the 2500 for a new scrambler frame
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Old 09-22-2011, 10:20 PM   #13 (permalink)
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I think the axle width oem was 51.5 front and rear on wagons.

I used a scout front when I was building a willys and it was stock width.

Ive got a set of currie ford nine inch axles out of my jeepster that would fit in a willys wagon for sale if your interested in just upgrading your axles.

Im going to tons.
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Old 10-18-2011, 12:15 PM   #14 (permalink)
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I am doing a wagon with an 89 wagoneer frame and found this link in another thread to be helpful it gives you most dimensions of frames and such for donor vehicles.

http://wx4.org/to/wagons/usefulstuff/usefulstuff.html
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