Official Invitation to 29 Palms Scoping Meetings - Pirate4x4.Com : 4x4 and Off-Road Forum

lttlbddy · 11-20-2008, 04:49 PM

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Rubicrawler · 11-20-2008, 04:57 PM

I received one too

Roxywheels · 11-20-2008, 05:58 PM

Me too

lttlbddy · 11-20-2008, 06:15 PM

We are special!!

IH_Co_pilot · 11-20-2008, 06:59 PM

well Idk if you have to show up with one in hand, but I won't be able to make it to the meeting if anyone wants my invite pm me.

I will def be writing a written letter and mailing in my comments though.

apeters89 · 11-20-2008, 07:03 PM

got mine too

Kurtuleas · 11-20-2008, 07:45 PM

Me three, or four......well maybe five.

roundeye · 11-25-2008, 10:11 AM

I received this as well. Should I write another letter before the end of January or is my comments already on record?

maxyedor · 11-28-2008, 01:30 AM

So who all is going to which meeting? I'll be there on the 5th, then it's off to the desert for a little racing if anybody wants to come to the MORE race.

lttlbddy · 11-28-2008, 10:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by roundeye

I received this as well. Should I write another letter before the end of January or is my comments already on record?

Write another one in the name of your wife, daughter, son, other family member.

Quote:

Originally Posted by maxyedor

So who all is going to which meeting? I'll be there on the 5th, then it's off to the desert for a little racing if anybody wants to come to the MORE race.

I'll be at either the Thursday or Friday meeting. Friday is the closest for me.

JENNVFMC · 12-03-2008, 07:35 PM

I will be at the Friday meeting. Looking forward to meeting some of you there!

biglar · 12-04-2008, 03:27 AM

I went to last nights meeting in 29 Palms. For those of you planning on attending the meeting tonight or tomorrow, don't kill yourself trying to get there at five. It's an open house format so you can show up anytime between 5 and 9. There were several map stations with Marines to answer questions and tables to write out your comments. No official presentation. My wife and I were in and out in 45 minutes.
Larry

Hammer Hog · 12-04-2008, 07:15 AM

I went to last night's meeting in 29. I've got to say I'm very discouraged concerning a weak turnout of opposition. I asked one of the coordinators (Michael King) if they had anticipated as much opposition as they have had. Surprisingly he said they expected much more opposition than what they are getting, especially from the OHV users. He stated that the vast majority of opposition is mostly from local communities, and very little outside of that.
So what I take from that is that the word has not gotten out much farther than local areas and a few forum communities such as this one.
Looks like this acquisition will be a slam dunk for the military if the word doesn't get out to the vast general public outside of these local areas.

I think the larger media outlets may be worth looking into...even at a national level.

I sure hope that these next two meetings will have much larger numbers.

The format of last nights meetings was basically the same as last time, with the exception of much better display maps. The maps are set up individually as for each option.

So get out and bring as many folks as you can...it's not looking good from what I'm detecting...but that can change with larger opposition.

bakerhab2003 · 12-04-2008, 07:27 AM

Bump -- Meeting tonight in Victorville

Turnout in Twentynine Palms was poor -- about 120 people. About 85% residents. Thank you to the off roaders who came from the local area and to FOGR folks, but especially thanks to those that came from as far away as Fullerton and Newport Beach.

December 4, 2008, 5 p.m. to 9 p.m., Victorville, CA (Hilton Garden Inn Victorville, 12603 Mariposa Road, Victorville, CA)

chvyhs · 12-04-2008, 07:40 AM

I made it to last nights meeting in Twenty-nine Palms. I learned a lot about what's going on, spoke to the Marine officers there, spoke with the people doing the environmental impact study, spoke with some other off road enthusiast, and wrote a letter with my concerns and the impact the base expansion will have on me. I believe that the Marine Corps had no idea that the land was so important to so many people. I also offered my time and buggy to get those planners out to see what we're doing out there. I also am in direct contact with the Marines tasked with this mission.

If you're concerned with expansion you need to make it out to one of the meetings or at the very least write a letter about it. I also spoke with Harry Baker from Partnership for Johnson Valley. I believe he was dissappointed that so few people showed up last night.

And just incase you don't know me. I'm currently on active duty in the Marine Corps and stationed on Twenty-nine Palms.

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IH_Co_pilot Registered User Join Date: Jul 2007 Member # 95308 Location: Georgia Posts: 1,026 Blog Entries: 4	well Idk if you have to show up with one in hand, but I won't be able to make it to the meeting if anyone wants my invite pm me. I will def be writing a written letter and mailing in my comments though.

11-25-2008, 10:11 AM	#8 (permalink)
roundeye Rock God Join Date: Aug 2001 Member # 6430 Location: Placerville, CA Posts: 1,242	I received this as well. Should I write another letter before the end of January or is my comments already on record? __________________ Roundeyes.com OutbackToilets.com

11-28-2008, 01:30 AM	#9 (permalink)
maxyedor Registered User Join Date: Feb 2007 Member # 87150 Location: 1000 Oaks Posts: 2,439	So who all is going to which meeting? I'll be there on the 5th, then it's off to the desert for a little racing if anybody wants to come to the MORE race. __________________ [QUOTE=Dieselmh;11422920]This thread is like McDonalds. It fucking sucks and doesn't deliver. :([/QUOTE]

12-03-2008, 07:35 PM	#11 (permalink)
JENNVFMC Registered User Join Date: May 2008 Member # 114329 Posts: 58	I will be at the Friday meeting. Looking forward to meeting some of you there! __________________ ʊ Ms. JENN ʊ Boots 'n spurs!

12-04-2008, 03:27 AM	#12 (permalink)
biglar Granite Guru Join Date: Jan 2003 Member # 16111 Location: Banning, CA Posts: 501	I went to last nights meeting in 29 Palms. For those of you planning on attending the meeting tonight or tomorrow, don't kill yourself trying to get there at five. It's an open house format so you can show up anytime between 5 and 9. There were several map stations with Marines to answer questions and tables to write out your comments. No official presentation. My wife and I were in and out in 45 minutes. Larry Last edited by biglar; 12-04-2008 at 03:31 AM.

12-04-2008, 07:15 AM	#13 (permalink)
Hammer Hog Registered User Join Date: Nov 2003 Member # 24269 Location: Way closer to the Hammers than you!!! Was Montrose, CO Posts: 1,434	I went to last night's meeting in 29. I've got to say I'm very discouraged concerning a weak turnout of opposition. I asked one of the coordinators (Michael King) if they had anticipated as much opposition as they have had. Surprisingly he said they expected much more opposition than what they are getting, especially from the OHV users. He stated that the vast majority of opposition is mostly from local communities, and very little outside of that. So what I take from that is that the word has not gotten out much farther than local areas and a few forum communities such as this one. Looks like this acquisition will be a slam dunk for the military if the word doesn't get out to the vast general public outside of these local areas. I think the larger media outlets may be worth looking into...even at a national level. I sure hope that these next two meetings will have much larger numbers. The format of last nights meetings was basically the same as last time, with the exception of much better display maps. The maps are set up individually as for each option. So get out and bring as many folks as you can...it's not looking good from what I'm detecting...but that can change with larger opposition. __________________ Official OG13-2013 KOH Recovery Team. Formula Toy #11 is For Sale... PM me.

12-04-2008, 07:27 AM	#14 (permalink)
bakerhab2003 Registered User Join Date: May 2003 Member # 19875 Location: southern California Posts: 320	Bump -- Meeting tonight in Victorville Turnout in Twentynine Palms was poor -- about 120 people. About 85% residents. Thank you to the off roaders who came from the local area and to FOGR folks, but especially thanks to those that came from as far away as Fullerton and Newport Beach. December 4, 2008, 5 p.m. to 9 p.m., Victorville, CA (Hilton Garden Inn Victorville, 12603 Mariposa Road, Victorville, CA)

12-04-2008, 07:40 AM	#15 (permalink)
chvyhs Registered User Join Date: Feb 2002 Member # 9771 Location: So Cal Posts: 807	I made it to last nights meeting in Twenty-nine Palms. I learned a lot about what's going on, spoke to the Marine officers there, spoke with the people doing the environmental impact study, spoke with some other off road enthusiast, and wrote a letter with my concerns and the impact the base expansion will have on me. I believe that the Marine Corps had no idea that the land was so important to so many people. I also offered my time and buggy to get those planners out to see what we're doing out there. I also am in direct contact with the Marines tasked with this mission. If you're concerned with expansion you need to make it out to one of the meetings or at the very least write a letter about it. I also spoke with Harry Baker from Partnership for Johnson Valley. I believe he was dissappointed that so few people showed up last night. And just incase you don't know me. I'm currently on active duty in the Marine Corps and stationed on Twenty-nine Palms. __________________ I like to stack rocks on the trail. Last edited by chvyhs; 12-04-2008 at 07:42 AM.

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