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Old 12-10-2008, 05:02 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Exclamation Johnson Valley... Action Alert 12-10-08

UPDATE 12-19-08

The time period alloted for public comment to the BLM has expired as of Monday Dec. 15, 2008. From this time forward all comments should be directed to the USMC specifically regarding the six proposed alternatives for expansion of the Twenty Nine Palms base. In a nut shell the six alternatives include the following...

There are four alternatives proposed to expand west into, most of if not all of, Johnson Valley OHV area. These are not acceptable alternatives for the off-road community.

One alternative proposes to expand east of the existing base. This is the best alternative for the OHV community.

The final alternative is a proposal of no action. We would not be having this conversation if this alternative was considered to be a reality!

Public comments to the USMC are due by Jan. 31, 2009! I have been informed that the letter generator may continue to be used for this purpose...http://www.pirate4x4.com/letters/

You may print and mail your comments directly to the USMC also...http://pfjv.org/Mcom.pdf

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Have we already lost the effort to keep Johnson Valley open to public recreation? Some of the signs are indeed troubling. At Monday nights meeting of Friends of Johnson Valley it was revealed that only 800 responses to public comment have been filed with the BLM. The deadline is Dec. 15th. The letter generator on Pirate 4x4’s forum has registered only 581 visits. Compare this to the 20,011 visits logged to the “picture post”. Comparatively, the “picture post’ has had 3400 percent more activity than the effort to maintain access to one of the most coveted destinations in the country. What are we doing wrong?

Allow me to put forth some suggestions. We seem to be approaching this latest crisis in our traditional failed form by waging a fight. What’s the problem you ask? In a fight you react by instinct, to some extent withdrawing to a position of defense. Passion and fear blind you, resulting in missed opportunities. In a fight there is a winner and a loser. A fight is tiring and grows wearisome over the long haul. This was plainly evident at the meeting Monday night as told by the faces and look of exhaustion by some present. If we continue in this manner who do you think will win the fight? The United States Marine Corp or the Off Road Community. We need to find a solution to satisfy both parties.

I propose we continue from this point forward not in fight mode, but rather in a campaign. What’s the difference? A campaign is a well thought strategy executed by a team of individuals with conviction. In a campaign you proceed with your eyes wide open, seizing not only the opportunities that are readily recognized, but also creating new ones. A campaign moves forward in constant motion with a cohesive message carried out on the ground by people with conviction in there beliefs. Who are these people? If you are under the impression that there is an organization or coalition fighting on your behalf without your involvement you are grossly mistaken! If you believe that the so called leadership in the Off Road community can successfully maintain your right to recreate in Johnson Valley you are flat out wrong!

You are the coalition. You are the leadership. Each individual is an equal stakeholder in this process. Remember, we live in a nation governed through democracy. Our military is civilian led by a duly elected Commander-in-Chief. Government does not exist to empower the people, but rather, people empower the government. Our Campaign to maintain access to Johnson Valley is critically dependent on your voice. Let’s lay out a strategy to succeed.

We can take a lesson from our own military. Our Nation’s military has successfully turned around the war in Iraq as a result of a well thought out and multi dimensional campaign, commonly referred to as The Surge. Among the techniques utilized in the surge was to build relationships with Iraqi citizens. To educate and gain the assistance of the average person. We need to do likewise. We need to reach out to every off-road enthusiast, regardless of whether they recreate in JV or not. Also, our military commanders engaged in dialog, building trust and relationships with Tribal Sheiks. Likewise we need to reach out to Land Managers and Military leaders to share with them the intrinsic value that Johnson Valley possesses to families throughout California and the nation. Currently that value does not appear on any document or form referenced by our government. Finally we need the surge of troops to make this happen. The military could not have achieved success without committing the boots on the ground. In this campaign we are all the boots. We all have an opportunity to rise to leadership! Contact your friends, the companies with whom you do business, exploit every opportunity. There is no master list being utilized to get the word out. You each have a list in your computer’s address book. Raise awareness! Share knowledge! The technology is at your finger tips.

The expansion of the 29 Palms base is a benefit to the security of the entire United States, and indeed the free world. Yet it is only the off-road enthusiast who is being asked to sacrifice. Below are targeted talking/bullet points for you to address in your public comments. Write a comment regarding each, submit each one separately... one a day. Be creative and think of your own. Become active in the process, engage in the conflict, SURGE towards success. Do three things. First...Bump this to the top. Don’t waste your time commenting or replying, just bump to the top and spend your time productively submitting your comments. Also, cross post to other popular forums. Second...Forward a link of this page to everyone you know who recreates off-road. Build the surge. Encourage them to act through your leadership. And finally, Act. Public comments to the BLM are due by Dec. 15, 2008. Public comments to the USMC due by Jan 31, 2009.


Talking Points to be commented on by Off-Road enthusiasts

1. The land mass of Johnson Valley totals nearly 200,000 acres. It is the largest designated OHV area in the country. The impact of it’s closure would adversely impact the already limited resources available to off-road enthusiast in the region.
2. The closure would negatively impact remaining OHV areas both in regards to the environment as well as personal safety as a result of increased and heavily concentrated use. Injury and even death will likely increase from over population of other BLM and Forest Service managed lands in the future should the base extend into Johnson Valley.
3. Increased use of Federal, State, and Local public lands will put additional pressure on land managers resulting in greater restriction to motorized recreation. The result of concentrated use will create increased environmental concerns likely leading to further closures in the future, thus compounding the problem.
4. In the San Bernardino County portion of the Mojave desert the military currently utilizes areas of Federal land for China Lake Naval Weapons Center, Fort Irwin National Training Center, Twenty Nine Palms Marine Corp Air Ground Combat Center, and a portion of Edwards Air Force Base. This in addition to countless Wilderness designated areas already severely restricts public motorized access on public lands. Other western States with similar topography should be studied.
5. The USMC should study cooperative use of existing military bases to accommodate their training goals. The USMC has indicated in their scoping meetings that training exercises would be held only once or twice each year. Nearby China Lake (Navy) and Fort Irwin (Army) are directly adjacent to each other. It seems reasonable that cooperative use can be an option. After all mobilization is also a part of training.
6. Expansion to the east would only require de-designation of a small portion of the Sheephole Valley Wilderness. Although political leaders have shown resistance to the idea, military training is a benefit to the entire Nation and the responsibility should be shared equitably among all Americans, not just off-road enthusiast. The number of designated wilderness areas far outnumber designated OHV areas in the Mojave desert.
7. Once used for live military fire, Johnson Valley would become an area restricted and off-limits to future generations in perpetuity, regardless if the needs of the USMC change and diminish in the future.
8. The characteristics that define the Hammer trails in Johnson Valley exist nowhere else inside the state of California. For the countless off-road enthusiasts who have invested thousands into their vehicles for the specific purpose of traversing these trails there is no alternative available in other Federally managed lands within the Mojave desert. This represents a potential loss in the hundreds of thousands of dollars to families and individuals.

Link to USMC comment form, print and send...http://pfjv.org/Mcom.pdf
Link to letter generator for the BLM...http://www.pirate4x4.com/letters/


For additional information regarding the 6 USMC propossed alternatives visit... http://www.pfjv.org/

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Old 12-10-2008, 06:02 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Very well put. And I feel the same way...very discouraged in the overall numbers in this effort. Seems that the small amount of numbers have been regionally from local areas, and not from afar. I'd say it's safe to say that most users come from out of the county. With that said, they are the one's that need to be alerted. Sounds like targeting the high use areas as talked about with fliers and such may help a bit...but may be too little too late. But that can change...I hope.
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Old 12-10-2008, 06:55 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Hammer Hog, Thanks for the comments. The post has been forwarded to 30 people in my address book. Tomorrow I will be contacting businesses I have purchased from. Build the surge!
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Old 12-11-2008, 12:57 AM   #4 (permalink)
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I uploaded two maps, jv1 shows the intended route of ALT 1 which takes Johnson Valley, note the orange line the South Division can simply be routed North of the Hammers and get to the same objective. The center Division route can be tweaked North a bit to maintain separation, point is even if they could justify taking ANY of Johnson Valley, theres no need to touch the Hammers. Also if it came down to mitigation the Hammers would be impossible to replace under current law, so if anything it's perfectly reasonable to ask for a minor reroute than taking something that can't be replaced. Also the jv2 map shows the current route which proves this is very workable, so if we're going to even think about mitigation, just forget anything that can't be replaced...TJ
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Just a little clarification, the December 15th deadline is "end of comment period on the "segregation/withdrawal" action by the BLM. "

January 31st is the "end of public comment period for the scoping phase of the EIS development. An extract of the Federal Register notice is below. "

For more details on this, check here: http://www.cal4wheel.com//phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=1078

I have also posted a Word Doc here:

Template JV Scoping Letter for Website Final.doc

For additional comments are a bit more focused that the than what is in the letter generator. This letter was put together by David Hubbard, ORBA and D37 and was forwarded to me by Meg Grossglass.
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I uploaded two maps, jv1 shows the intended route of ALT 1 which takes Johnson Valley, note the orange line the South Division can simply be routed North of the Hammers and get to the same objective. The center Division route can be tweaked North a bit to maintain separation, point is even if they could justify taking ANY of Johnson Valley, theres no need to touch the Hammers. Also if it came down to mitigation the Hammers would be impossible to replace under current law, so if anything it's perfectly reasonable to ask for a minor reroute than taking something that can't be replaced. Also the jv2 map shows the current route which proves this is very workable, so if we're going to even think about mitigation, just forget anything that can't be replaced...TJ
Tom, thanks for posting the maps. The Hammer trails are specifically addressed in talking point #8. Remember to directly link the loss of the trails to the loss of hundreds of thousands of dollars for many California families. Also while I know that you have only positive intentions regarding midigation, at this point in the game it is the government that is required to midigate issues we address. The coversation regarding land midigation has created division in the off-road community in the past. We need to avoid anything that creates division at this time and progress forward with a strong cohesive message as a community. Thanks again for adding the maps.

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Visits to the letter generator has increased by 33 since last night. Communicate to your friends... phone calls, email, etc. Make sure if you are in a club they are participating in the process. Exploit every opportunity. If your rig is running a Rubicon Express suspension, call them and forward a link to this page. If you are running an Atlas, call A.A. You get the idea. Do not assume they have engaged, let them hear from the folks who have led to their success. BUMP, FORWARD, ACT!

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I'm not the one that started any mitigation, also this is not mitigation, just a statement of facts of what's both not replaceable and easiest to avoid at the same time. Also I was not at the table and had nothing to do with any of the alternatives, just an objective observation of someone with formal training in trail lay out and design, that has been to all the public meetings at the same time...TJ
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Contacted Marilyn Russell (Sidekick), John Currie (Currie Ent.), and Katie @ Champion Wheel.

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Also remember my suggestion only applies to ALT 1, but still support ALT 3 which is the no JV pro OHV option, but keep in mind they could wind up using any combination of all the ALT's. The end game the way I see it is if they must use Johnson Valley at all, is for us to move the line both as far North as possible, along with as far east as possible. If we can get them to use the Sheep Hole Wilderness all is well, if not then we should both limit them to the far North East corner, and keep that for shared use as well...TJ

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East bound down, load 'em up I'm truckin'... Headed to Cougar Buttes for the D37 Rally. See you there! 263 hits in a day and a half, keep it up. Visits to the letter generator are growing also.
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Home from the Fun Ride... I want a Rock Buggy! We've had nearly 400 hits to the Action Alert in less than 4 days. Good Work! Keep forwarding to friends, clubs, and to those with whom you have done business.

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Today is the last day to comment to the BLM.

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Stand by for an update to the post, likely tomorrow. Today we will be visiting our friend in the hospital. She along with her husband were involved in a very serious auto accident Monday night. While Jim is out of the hospital, Sheri remains in very serious condition, a result of being ejected from their car. Your prayers for Jim and Sheri would be greatly appreciated.
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Jim and Sheri who? from BRP?
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No, just some personal friends.
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so does that mean that it's too late to send letters via letter generator anymore??
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I was just thinking, after reading the comparison of letters generated to # of posts in the JV pic thread. If we could get some people to volunteer, why don't we divvy that thread up into 10 or so pages a piece, and PM everyone? Is it possible to send mass PMs to all members of PBB?? Something we could work out with Camo/Lance? If it's not too late, that is... I would be more than happy to start sending PMs
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so does that mean that it's too late to send letters via letter generator anymore??
I spoke to Helen Baker from PFJV yesterday and was informed that the letter generator is still a viable tool. See the update at the beginning of the post...

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I was just thinking, after reading the comparison of letters generated to # of posts in the JV pic thread. If we could get some people to volunteer, why don't we divvy that thread up into 10 or so pages a piece, and PM everyone? Is it possible to send mass PMs to all members of PBB?? Something we could work out with Camo/Lance? If it's not too late, that is... I would be more than happy to start sending PMs
It is not too late and that is an excellent idea... exploiting every opportunity! As for the practicality I am not sure? I will be working on contacting clubs throughout SoCal in the coming days. Your leadership in coordinating the contact/PM of individuals from the picture post would be greatly appreciated. Let me know if I can assist and as soon as I have completed contacting club representatives I can help sending out some PMs.

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It is not too late and that is an excellent idea... exploiting every opportunity! As for the practicality I am not sure? I will be working on contacting clubs throughout SoCal in the coming days. Your leadership in coordinating the contact/PM of individuals from the picture post would be greatly appreciated. Let me know if I can assist and as soon as I have completed contacting club representatives I can help sending out some PMs.

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I would be more than happy to do that. Where do you think the best place to do that would be? Start a new thread in the ______ forum? If I can get 10 people or so, I can just start assigning like 10 pages each or something, that way we don't duplicate our efforts. Let me know what you think and I will get on it. It actally wouldn't take that much time I don't think if we got some people on board. I'll count you in as volunteer #1?
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Done.

http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showt...53#post9159753

Brazoz, If you volunteer their I'll be sure to put your name in the #1 spot on the list
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I'm in! Thanks for taking the lead on a great idea!

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