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Murphster05 · 12-27-2008, 09:07 AM

Hey everyone,

just a general question. I know it is legal to shoot shotguns in JV according to BLM, but is it acceptable? Friend recently asked me and I don't think I had thought about it before, so thought that I would ask here and see what everyone thought. If this has been asked before, I apologize, couldn't find that post.

Thanks.

Hammer Hog · 12-27-2008, 09:10 AM

We have.
Just stay away from the populous and use your head, and you'll be fine.

Murphster05 · 12-27-2008, 09:19 AM

thanks for the rapid response. That made sense to me, but I wanted to know what the general opinion was.

dleroy43 · 12-27-2008, 10:53 AM

dont forget to pick up your shells and whatever you shot at when your done.

that should go without saying but, some people still need to be reminded.

Murphster05 · 12-27-2008, 11:32 AM

isn't it sad you have to remind people of that?

mrblaine · 12-27-2008, 06:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Murphster05

isn't it sad you have to remind people of that?

Not really, it's more sad when you have to spend a couple hours picking up shotgun shells, broken bottles, and the pieces from a case of clay targets while trying not to step in the big wet spot from the idiots dumping their black water tanks.

nathan baker · 12-30-2008, 10:04 PM

thats a good question I was wonderin that myself. Shotguns? What about rifles and hand guns? what is the word on that? Obviously keeping in mind all the above and obvious points being made.

Hammer Hog · 12-31-2008, 12:01 AM

I could be wrong, but I believe solid projectiles are illegal in that area.

So that just leaves shot-guns and Sobe-Bombs.

catfish<>< · 12-31-2008, 07:57 AM

go to the B.L.M. website, it will tell you

bob

www.extremewheelers4christ.org

Hammer Hog · 12-31-2008, 08:37 AM

Yep, BLM site says Shot-Guns Only. And in designated areas.
See Map

More BLM info

And you can thank

the designated as shotgun-only by a San Bernardino County Ordinance.

chvyhs · 12-31-2008, 09:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hammer Hog

Yep, BLM site says Shot-Guns Only. And in designated areas.
See Map

More BLM info

And you can thank

the designated as shotgun-only by a San Bernardino County Ordinance.

That's a good map. Thanks

desertmedic · 01-02-2009, 05:15 PM

I live in Barstow... The safest bet, if you want to shoot pistols and rifles, is to go north of Barstow. We go north east of the drive-in on hwy. 58. Shoot against one of the mountains and not accross the open desert. And pick up your brass and targets... PLEEEEASE. There are so many slobs out there that are ruining our desert its disgusting.

RuggedRadios · 02-04-2010, 09:52 PM

Bump.... am I going to be able to get away from people during the week to have some shooting fun or is it just not going to be worth it during KOH week?

johny5.0 · 02-04-2010, 10:45 PM

you might find less people at the mall KOH week

RuggedRadios · 02-05-2010, 04:13 PM

Just saw in the KOH Program is says "No Shooting the Week of the Event"

Not sure how that can be....

ROK RNR · 02-05-2010, 04:35 PM

because hammer king productions has the permit for a couple of weeks and they make the rules to follow.

RuggedRadios · 02-06-2010, 09:46 AM

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Originally Posted by ROK RNR

because hammer king productions has the permit for a couple of weeks and they make the rules to follow.

For all of Johnson Valley OHV? And therefore they control all use by Public? I kind of doubt that.

offroad_joe · 02-06-2010, 10:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RuggedRadios

For all of Johnson Valley OHV? And therefore they control all use by Public? I kind of doubt that.

No they don't have control of Johnson Valley, it is public land. They have a use permit that allows them to put on there event.

With that said, With the crowds that will be out there, I would hope people would have the brains not to be shooting anything. I'm sure if some ass-hat decides they want to shoot around people, there would be action taken.

The desert is a big place.

offroad_joe · 02-06-2010, 10:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RuggedRadios

Bump.... am I going to be able to get away from people during the week to have some shooting fun or is it just not going to be worth it during KOH week?

Use your head and have fun. There will be people everywhere. Just make sure you go way off the beaten path and hope a ranger doesn't happen to see you shooting anything except a shotgun.

Hammer Hog · 02-06-2010, 10:33 AM

Come on man...use your head! If you insist on shooting, take a long drive far away from anything KOH related.
And remember, it's shotgun ONLY...anywhere in the BLM's OHV area.

And if the KOH Program is says "No Shooting the Week of the Event" ...show some love

hurleygo3 · 02-06-2010, 10:51 AM

I talked to BLM. They don't have control of someone shooting out there. Yes shot guns only, but if you want to head north on 247 there are a few areas on the east side that are open to shoot.

desertwheeler · 02-06-2010, 04:12 PM

Stoddard wells OHV and Jonshon Valley shotguns only. I know i dont like riding when someones shooting HP rifles in the area. If the BLM catches ya shooting anything other than shotguns bye bye gun.

RuggedRadios · 02-07-2010, 06:34 PM

Whoa guys... my hands are in the air!

LOL

No guns are coming, I was just wondering about the statement. I was aware of the shotguns only from research for prior trips for recreation. Thanks!

sandaddik2 · 02-16-2010, 08:32 AM

why do you need to shoot at koh? is the race not enought? just wait til after friday and go out somewhere else where theres less than 15,000 people so you wont hit anybody.
is it really that hard?

RuggedRadios · 02-17-2010, 10:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sandaddik2

why do you need to shoot at koh? is the race not enought? just wait til after friday and go out somewhere else where theres less than 15,000 people so you wont hit anybody.
is it really that hard?

Hint hint.... it was last week

12-27-2008, 09:07 AM	#1 (permalink)
Murphster05 Registered User Join Date: Nov 2005 Member # 59389 Posts: 165	Shooting in JV Hey everyone, just a general question. I know it is legal to shoot shotguns in JV according to BLM, but is it acceptable? Friend recently asked me and I don't think I had thought about it before, so thought that I would ask here and see what everyone thought. If this has been asked before, I apologize, couldn't find that post. Thanks.

12-27-2008, 09:10 AM	#2 (permalink)
Hammer Hog Registered User Join Date: Nov 2003 Member # 24269 Location: Way closer to the Hammers than you!!! Was Montrose, CO Posts: 1,434	We have. Just stay away from the populous and use your head, and you'll be fine. __________________ Official OG13-2013 KOH Recovery Team. Formula Toy #11 is For Sale... PM me.

12-27-2008, 10:53 AM	#4 (permalink)
dleroy43 Registered User Join Date: Sep 2005 Member # 53327 Location: Lancaster CA Posts: 101	dont forget to pick up your shells and whatever you shot at when your done. that should go without saying but, some people still need to be reminded. __________________ Public lands are for the public, not just hippies

12-31-2008, 12:01 AM	#8 (permalink)
Hammer Hog Registered User Join Date: Nov 2003 Member # 24269 Location: Way closer to the Hammers than you!!! Was Montrose, CO Posts: 1,434	I could be wrong, but I believe solid projectiles are illegal in that area. So that just leaves shot-guns and Sobe-Bombs. __________________ Official OG13-2013 KOH Recovery Team. Formula Toy #11 is For Sale... PM me.

12-31-2008, 08:37 AM	#10 (permalink)
Hammer Hog Registered User Join Date: Nov 2003 Member # 24269 Location: Way closer to the Hammers than you!!! Was Montrose, CO Posts: 1,434	Yep, BLM site says Shot-Guns Only. And in designated areas. See Map More BLM info And you can thank the designated as shotgun-only by a San Bernardino County Ordinance. __________________ Official OG13-2013 KOH Recovery Team. Formula Toy #11 is For Sale... PM me.

12-27-2008, 09:19 AM	#3 (permalink)
Murphster05 Registered User Join Date: Nov 2005 Member # 59389 Posts: 165	thanks for the rapid response. That made sense to me, but I wanted to know what the general opinion was.

12-27-2008, 11:32 AM	#5 (permalink)
Murphster05 Registered User Join Date: Nov 2005 Member # 59389 Posts: 165	isn't it sad you have to remind people of that?

12-30-2008, 10:04 PM	#7 (permalink)
nathan baker Registered User Join Date: May 2008 Member # 114061 Location: Fremont CA Posts: 70	thats a good question I was wonderin that myself. Shotguns? What about rifles and hand guns? what is the word on that? Obviously keeping in mind all the above and obvious points being made.

12-31-2008, 07:57 AM	#9 (permalink)
catfish<>< Registered User Join Date: Dec 2004 Member # 40544 Location: Yucca Valley, CA Posts: 351	go to the B.L.M. website, it will tell you bob www.extremewheelers4christ.org

01-02-2009, 05:15 PM	#12 (permalink)
desertmedic Registered User Join Date: Jan 2009 Member # 126423 Location: The Mojave Desert of California AKA the big sandbox Posts: 1	I live in Barstow... The safest bet, if you want to shoot pistols and rifles, is to go north of Barstow. We go north east of the drive-in on hwy. 58. Shoot against one of the mountains and not accross the open desert. And pick up your brass and targets... PLEEEEASE. There are so many slobs out there that are ruining our desert its disgusting. Last edited by desertmedic; 01-02-2009 at 05:16 PM.

02-04-2010, 09:52 PM	#13 (permalink)
RuggedRadios Granite Guru Join Date: Oct 2008 Member # 122268 Location: San Luis Obispo, CA Posts: 979	Bump.... am I going to be able to get away from people during the week to have some shooting fun or is it just not going to be worth it during KOH week? __________________ Rugged Radios 1-888-541-7223

02-04-2010, 10:45 PM	#14 (permalink)
johny5.0 Registered User Join Date: Oct 2009 Member # 145218 Posts: 322	you might find less people at the mall KOH week

02-05-2010, 04:13 PM	#15 (permalink)
RuggedRadios Granite Guru Join Date: Oct 2008 Member # 122268 Location: San Luis Obispo, CA Posts: 979	Just saw in the KOH Program is says "No Shooting the Week of the Event" Not sure how that can be.... __________________ Rugged Radios 1-888-541-7223

02-05-2010, 04:35 PM	#16 (permalink)
ROK RNR Wheeler Join Date: Jun 2001 Member # 5301 Location: Oroville Posts: 249	because hammer king productions has the permit for a couple of weeks and they make the rules to follow.

02-06-2010, 10:33 AM	#20 (permalink)
Hammer Hog Registered User Join Date: Nov 2003 Member # 24269 Location: Way closer to the Hammers than you!!! Was Montrose, CO Posts: 1,434	Come on man...use your head! If you insist on shooting, take a long drive far away from anything KOH related. And remember, it's shotgun ONLY...anywhere in the BLM's OHV area. And if the KOH Program is says "No Shooting the Week of the Event" ...show some love __________________ Official OG13-2013 KOH Recovery Team. Formula Toy #11 is For Sale... PM me.

02-06-2010, 10:51 AM	#21 (permalink)
hurleygo3 Zeus of the Sluice Join Date: Oct 2006 Member # 80862 Location: Orange County Posts: 3,514	I talked to BLM. They don't have control of someone shooting out there. Yes shot guns only, but if you want to head north on 247 there are a few areas on the east side that are open to shoot. __________________ www.facebook.com/EckoMotorsports www.partsmike.com www.savvyoffroad.com www.trail-gear.com Last edited by hurleygo3; 02-06-2010 at 04:15 PM.

02-06-2010, 04:12 PM	#22 (permalink)
desertwheeler Registered User Join Date: Nov 2005 Member # 59100 Location: Barstow,Ca Posts: 337	Stoddard wells OHV and Jonshon Valley shotguns only. I know i dont like riding when someones shooting HP rifles in the area. If the BLM catches ya shooting anything other than shotguns bye bye gun. __________________ 08 6.4 F250 73 Blazer 33's locked front Rear 56's 350/350/203

02-07-2010, 06:34 PM	#23 (permalink)
RuggedRadios Granite Guru Join Date: Oct 2008 Member # 122268 Location: San Luis Obispo, CA Posts: 979	Whoa guys... my hands are in the air! LOL No guns are coming, I was just wondering about the statement. I was aware of the shotguns only from research for prior trips for recreation. Thanks! __________________ Rugged Radios 1-888-541-7223

02-16-2010, 08:32 AM	#24 (permalink)
sandaddik2 Registered User Join Date: Oct 2009 Member # 144152 Location: Hesperia Posts: 959	why do you need to shoot at koh? is the race not enought? just wait til after friday and go out somewhere else where theres less than 15,000 people so you wont hit anybody. is it really that hard?

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