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Old 01-11-2012, 10:14 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Finally got the front coilovers mounted on Friday. It is a little tall in front, but I have the adjusters threaded down so the coils won't unseat at full droop. I have 6" tender coils and sliders coming so I will be able to drop the front down 3" - 4" to make it sit level.

I still have to fab the cross-bar between the hoops and mount the rad resevoir, the steering fluid resevoir, and a few other bits under the hood that had to be moved to make room for the hoops.

Plus, I'll have to make some cuts in the hood for the hoops to poke through. But hey, everytime I remove sheet-metal, it gets a little lighter!





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Fantastic job Greg!
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Old 01-11-2012, 02:27 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Thank you sir!

You wouldn't happen to have a stock D2 pitman arm would you?
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Are you sure you have enough body to tyre clearance once you articulate those axles?
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Old 01-12-2012, 05:55 AM   #6 (permalink)
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Are you sure you have enough body to tyre clearance once you articulate those axles?
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Assuming there is no sarcasm and you are serious, it's trimmed so that sitting on the bump stops, it has about 2" - 3" of clearance around the tires. I've actually set it up to be able to run 42" tires if I ever decide to lose my mind and go bigger.
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Are those 14" or 16" co's and what springrates you running?
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Rears are 14" travel with 16" 200# & 14" 175#. Fronts are 16" travel with 16" 300# & 14" 200# w/ triple-rates coming so I can raise the adjusters to drop the front. I have some additional rates and lengths at home so I can play with them if the ride is not correct, but so far everything seems like it is OK.

What rates and travel are you running?
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Assuming there is no sarcasm and you are serious, it's trimmed so that sitting on the bump stops, it has about 2" - 3" of clearance around the tires. I've actually set it up to be able to run 42" tires if I ever decide to lose my mind and go bigger.
No sarcasm. I have 36'' tyres, 4 '' of bump stop clearance and 12'' of clearance between top of tyres and wheel boxes(arches) at the rear. When axle is articulated to 30 degrees all the tyre clearance gets used up.
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I took it to mean "sitting on the bump stop on one side AND at full droop on the other". It would be useless to check tire clearance any other way.
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Rears are 14" travel with 16" 250# & 14" 175#. Fronts are 16" travel with 16" 300# & 14" 200# w/ triple-rates coming so I can raise the adjusters to drop the front. I have some additional rates and lengths at home so I can play with them if the ride is not correct, but so far everything seems like it is OK.

What rates and travel are you running?
rear are 14" 225/250 with a 35lbs 3" round (soon to be flat) tender...2.5" FOA

Front is 14" 250/300, no tender...2.0" Bling's
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I took it to mean "sitting on the bump stop on one side AND at full droop on the other". It would be useless to check tire clearance any other way.
How I took it was that with the rear axle sitting on both bumpstops there is 2-3'' of tyre clearance.If that is correct, and based on experience with my own truck, the tyre on the compressed side during articulation can rise 6-8'' higher, and the bottom photo of Gregs truck indicates insufficient clearance for that to happen.
To check clearances when building vehicles, I've found it useful to make a hoisting bracket that attaches to the wheel studs, so that you can articulate the suspension in the workshop by means of a chain hoist hanging from a roof beam.
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Thank you sir!

You wouldn't happen to have a stock D2 pitman arm would you?
You're welcome, and, of course I do!

I lost your address though when I got my new phone, lemme look at my old phone to see if I still have your address.
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Old 01-12-2012, 04:11 PM   #14 (permalink)
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rear are 14" 225/250 with a 35lbs 3" round (soon to be flat) tender...2.5" FOA

Front is 14" 250/300, no tender...2.0" Bling's
Sounds like our rates are pretty close - plus I think you haul alot more gear than I do.

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How I took it was that with the rear axle sitting on both bumpstops there is 2-3'' of tyre clearance.If that is correct, and based on experience with my own truck, the tyre on the compressed side during articulation can rise 6-8'' higher, and the bottom photo of Gregs truck indicates insufficient clearance for that to happen.
To check clearances when building vehicles, I've found it useful to make a hoisting bracket that attaches to the wheel studs, so that you can articulate the suspension in the workshop by means of a chain hoist hanging from a roof beam.
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I articulated it the best I could in my garage with what I had - I guess I'll find out this spring (or hopefully sooner).

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You're welcome, and, of course I do!

I lost your address though when I got my new phone, lemme look at my old phone to see if I still have your address.
Sent you a PM.
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Greg, lookin' good! Give me a yell if you need an extra hand with anything.
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Thanks John. To be honest, for some reason I thought you had left Charlotte. Gimme a yell sometime. 704-577-0532.
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Thanks! - If I cn ever finish the damn thing.
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Now we need a YouTube .
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All in due time my friend! There's still ALOT of finish work and little nit-picky things to do. But it gets closer each time I work on it.
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Think you will have that ready for Safari in the spring, would love to see that in person if you where planning on attending.
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Old 01-17-2012, 07:23 AM   #22 (permalink)
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Think you will have that ready for Safari in the spring, would love to see that in person if you where planning on attending.
That is a nice goal to set - of course, I've said that for the last three years!!!

But in all honesty, this thing is moving at a pace that may actually make that a reality. I've made a dedicated schedule for working on it and so far it has gone according to plan, so there may be hope yet!
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Old 01-20-2012, 12:41 PM   #23 (permalink)
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Well, I didn't get as much done as I had hoped (does anyone EVER?), but I did get a lot of little nagging things cleaned up. Just think of having to take everything off of your wheel wells (since they are gone) and relocating everything(!).

Here's the front fully extended so I could remove my coilovers and install the tender coils. I was able to lower the front 4", so now it sits just right (for some reason that picture didn't show up!).



Neatened up the D/S wheel well by getting the P/S resevoir relocated as well as re-routing some wires, and relocated a vacuum canister.



And on the P/S I relocated the coolant resevoir, relocated the wiring harness behind the fuse box, and mounted some wierd vacuum operated thing just in front of the firewall out of the way, along with some other odd contraption (don't you just LOVE all this technical jargon?) that I have NO idea what it does.



I got the tubing bent and cut for the cross-bar to go between the hoops, but ran out of time.

All that is left under the hood is to mount the washer fluid bottle, finish making the crossbar, re-run my AC lines, mount the new PS pump, re-route my intake hose and MAF (again!) because of the shock hoop, and clearance the hood for the hoops to poke through.

Then I will focus on installing shorter main springs and tender coils on the rear coilovers so I can have some adjustability, and then I'll work on the rear tin work (wheel wells, bulkhead behind the seats, battery box cover, etc.

It's finally getting there!
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Old 01-21-2012, 07:26 AM   #24 (permalink)
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This thing has to be one of my favorite trucks Ive ever seen. Cant believe I just now found it. I looked up for more about this truck I seen he thread with it sitting in your drive right as you were getting ready to coilover it.

Do you have any build thread on this truck?
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Old 01-21-2012, 08:54 AM   #25 (permalink)
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Try this thread. Unfortunately, a few years ago MontyPics' server crashed and I lost alot of the photo links. If I can ever find the disc with the photos, I'll try and rebuild the thread.

And thanks for the compliments.

http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showt...470&highlight=

Check out the date the thread was started(!).
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