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Old 12-23-2002, 08:11 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Rebuild or replace?

My rig has a leaking front caliper. I'm kind of shocked what they want for a new one. Rebuild seal kits are very common from what I'm seeing. I haven't rebuilt a caliper since high school auto shop. Any tips?
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all i know is that my dad can do it, and if he can do it so can you

i will ask him and see if he has any tips for you.
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all i know is that my dad can do it, and if he can do it so can you

i will ask him and see if he has any tips for you.
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DO NOT SEPARATE THE HALVES!

ok sorry for yelling. if you can get the piston kit, great. But the problem is that they never seem to seal right. If I remember correctly the factory recommends replacement. I rebuilt one of mine, and it only lasted about 6 months.

Besides, they are not that expensive, doing one will not hurt if you have properly lubed the slides on the other side and replaced the pads at the same time.

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Old 12-23-2002, 09:52 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Besides, they are not that expensive,
225.00 is expensive to me! A-1 Cardone is working on a rebuild program, but not until mid march. There list price on a rebuilt disco caliper with a 2 year warranty is 46.00!
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Old 12-23-2002, 09:59 PM   #5 (permalink)
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OS,

Send it to me. I'll rebuild it for you.

I've done at least a dozen calipers and none of them leak at all.

Splitting them hasn't been a problem for me at all. In fact, we've done a lot of significant modifications on the calipers and with all of the messing around you'd think we might have screwed at least one of them up.

No problems, no leaks, no nothing. Just good strong brakes (thank heavens).

So strong that they'll rip the caliper bolts right out of the axle housing! (don't ask....)
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OS,

Send it to me. I'll rebuild it for you.


i dont think OS is the kind of guy to have someone do something like this for him!
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OS,

Send it to me. I'll rebuild it for you.

Thanks for the offer Michael , but I would be walking when she down. Did you hone out your bores? Are the pistons kits necessary?
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Old 12-23-2002, 11:25 PM   #8 (permalink)
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A1 CARDONE 192082 Unloaded Caliper Reman.; Front; Right; OE Metal Piston 50.00 122.55

A1 CARDONE 192083 Unloaded Caliper Reman.; Front; Left; OE Metal Piston 50.00 122.55

Buck twenty two price includes core.

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Old 12-24-2002, 01:16 AM   #9 (permalink)
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Thanks for the offer Michael , but I would be walking when she down. Did you hone out your bores? Are the pistons kits necessary?
No, I didn't mean to insinuate that he might not be capable of doing it. Trust me, if I can do it, a trained (or even not-so-trained) monkey could do it.

I just used the seal kit. No new pistons on any of the calipers I've re-done. I'm not saying *you* won't need them, but I've been lucky and none of the calipers I've owned have been in much salt. Could be different depending on climate.

The trickiest part, IMO, is getting the piston out. The way we did it was to get a claw hammer, stick the claw end in there, angle it up and slightly twist/turn while lifting out the piston. You can't damage the inside bore of the piston by using the claw hammer(where most if not all of the corrosion will be).

Didn't hone out the cylinder walls either. Just wiped them down clean and sprayed them with brake cleaner. Installed the new seals and the outer retaining ring (you should use a large-ish socket and tap it in flush). That's the second trickiest part.

The instructions clearly show which seal is to be used where, but you need to pay attention as the seals look similiar if they're wet or if it's not really well lit.

Good luck, it's simple.
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old scout I've got some shitty calipers Don't know if they work at all but hey they are your's for the price of shipping I've got two with an axle that I got for cheap. Drop me a line if you want them


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not neccarily shit just rusted haven't done anything with the axle since I bought it 97 disco axle with 75k
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A1 CARDONE 192082 Unloaded Caliper Reman.; Front; Right; OE Metal Piston 50.00 122.55

A1 CARDONE 192083 Unloaded Caliper Reman.; Front; Left; OE Metal Piston 50.00 122.55

Buck twenty two price includes core.

http://www.autopartstreet.com/partslookup.jsp
Yea yea Auto Zone has them as well, but there is not stock and a three month back order is uncool.
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old scout I've got some shitty calipers Don't know if they work at all but hey they are your's for the price of shipping I've got two with an axle that I got for cheap. Drop me a line if you want them


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not neccarily shit just rusted haven't done anything with the axle since I bought it 97 disco axle with 75k
Thanks Ben. If mine is FUBAR, I'll take you up on that !
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Mike,

I have done a few as well, and what I have found is that calipers from corrosive areas don't like to go back together well. Just the halves seem to leak. I NEVER hone the cylinders, MAYBE a mild (non scoring) pad and brake clean.

The only one that ever leaked was my own, not a customers (that I know of) and it leaked after 6 months.

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Did you check across the pond? I would. Craddocks and such.

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I can do one in about 4 minutes.

Take a blow gun with a rubber tip and blow out all four pistons at the same time using old (thin) brake pads to hold them from blowing all the way out. Slap in some new seals slathered in GT LMA and put it back together.

I split them to make reassembly easier but you don't really have to.

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I can do one in about 4 minutes.

Take a blow gun with a rubber tip and blow out all four pistons at the same time using old (thin) brake pads to hold them from blowing all the way out. Slap in some new seals slathered in GT LMA and put it back together.

I split them to make reassembly easier but you don't really have to.

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I've done my share of LR and Toy calipers. You can do one in 4min? Heck, it takes me more than that to fit just that stupid metal dust seal retainer, what a stupid design.

More than ones I had no luck with compressed air. Or with the caliper still on the vehicle with engine running and pads removed, there was still one that didn't budge.
Ended up welding a big steel rod to that piston to encourage it to come out, which it did!
None of the calipers I've done ever leaked afterwards or had any other problem. I only ever split some disco calipers, after that never done it again. Makes blowing them out with compressed air possible, otherwise it doesn't work.

When doing LR calipers I would recommend using genuine seal kits and stainless pistons. Available from paddockspares.com for cheap.
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This is an eight year old thread boys.

New calipers are barely more than $100.

Around here, the pistons are all so badly rusted they need to be replaced, thus adding more expense to the project.

I'll stick with new for something as safety critical as brakes.
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Holy crap.... hadn't even seen that..

Why the hell would you even drag this thread up from the dead with a stupid reply like this:

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Holy crap.... hadn't even seen that..

Why the hell would you even drag this thread up from the dead with a stupid reply like this:




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IS what Paul Richmond is up to.
New to the forum, and just happens to have a1 cardone in his sig.
We won't see him again, but he's achieved his aim of having a link to his web page from an old page on the web (which means it has high google page rank)
Is there a moderation button?

Edit: Found it, report made.

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