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Old 03-05-2012, 05:04 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Going to Moab this week, HELP!

I feel like a little kid. I've never been down there before and have no idea what i'm getting into. I think i'm as prepared as i can be right now. There is always stuff i wish i could do.

I have a RR P38. I've got 3" of lift over the standard ride height and longer shocks. I cut the front Bumper up and built a winch into it. The shocks are extended and it has pretty good articulation. I don't have much body protection, other then the steering, front diff, and radiator.

I think it'll do fine. I have lots of sandstone (slick rock) i play on with it usually.

I only have two days to play while i'm there.

I want to run:

Gemini Bridges
Gold Bar Rim
Golden Spike

I'll just turn around after the Golden Crack and go back. I don't care about the front and rear bumpers. I have plans to build some anyway. I just want to be able to get back to Montana.

The traction control works really well. Its done well in all situations.

my build so far.

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Sweet truck man. Nice job on your build. Never been to Moab so can't help you there...
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Old 03-05-2012, 06:27 PM   #3 (permalink)
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You could go from those trails to Poison Spyder Mesa and then you wouldn't be back-tracking. Walk out to see the Portal, I always like that spot for an overlook. Do not travel alone (go with another rig).
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Old 03-05-2012, 07:29 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Its just me and the wife. I'm a loser with no friends, that own 4x4's.

The rover is in great shape.

I've changed all the fluids, greased the shafts and ujoints. New belt. New water pump and gasket. new radiator, new heated windshield etc. I think i've dumped $2.5K into this damn thing including tires, wheels and lift.

no fluid leaks right now other then a weepy rear main seal.

No air suspension, so i don't have to worry about that crap dying in the middle of no where.

Taking: oil, spare tire, lots of coolant, lots of water, lots of food, etc.

i've have a lot of experience 4 wheeling. but this is the most stock i've kept a rig. less chance of breaking stuff i hope. i've played with the vehicle a lot and done a lot of miles of trails this last summer making sure its working good.
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Man oh man! I live for the moab! I would love to go there and show you around a little... Just have some family stuff that I have to attend this weekend...

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Moab trails are easy for the most part and you shouldn't have any trouble. Buuuut, I wouldn't venture off on my own in Moab.

If you must,may I suggest you purchase a spot gps emergency locator or similar and be sure to get as many emergency phone numbers as you can as well as supplies etc. it's an easy place to do circles without knowing it and lots of cliffs that are not visable in the least late at night if you get stuck past sunset.

Be careful and enjoy.
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Old 03-05-2012, 08:35 PM   #7 (permalink)
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hate to agree with puffdragon but hes right .

i lived there for a year and it was still easy to get lost on trails once it got dark
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We had a trail leader on hells revenge many many many years ago drive up to the edge of a rather large cliff and almost drive off until someone yelled out that we should get out and scout the trail first. Still not sure how we got lost on HR. It gets damn dark out there!
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i have lots of maps and a Garmin GPSMap 60csx loaded with Utah topo maps, Wyoming topo maps, and Montana.

I also found all the tracks on traildamage.com and loaded them into the gps unit.

I've never been lost. But I will definitely be careful.

Are there usually lots of people down there this time of year?

How is ATT coverage down there? I'm going to guess it probably sucks!
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probably going to start on the trails around 7.00 am. 25 gallon tank should last me the whole day as long as i keep my foot out of the skinny pedal.
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If you're going to Gemini Bridges, consider finding your way down to Bull Canyon...you'll end up at the bottom of the Bridges. It's a great place for lunch.

After that, go west from Gemini to the highway, south to the "tee" then back east...pay attention for the left hand turn off to "Long Canyon" and you'll get back to town a more interesting way...nothing terribly challenging as far as terrain, but an interesting drive.
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I agree with the recommendation for a Spot or other beacon. Its a good long term investment if you travel alone (single vehicle) like I also do. Maps are all great, but if you have any sort of incident out there, your travel buddy is what saves you. The beacon is a last line insurance if you can't bring a buddy. Simple things like getting back out of a rut with a tow become day ending catastrophe's or worse without the guy behind you. I dunno about currently, but I have seen snow in Arches and Canyonlands, so be aware that its plausible you will have snow or ice to deal with, especially in shaded areas or in ruts and grooves.
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http://www.amazon.com/SPOT-Inc-SPOT-...055882&sr=8-16

Its got some cool other features too if you learn them. Can even send short texts or emails.
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Years before SPOT navigation was an option and only salesman had cel phones I putted around Moab with my buddies in a nearly stock LJ80 suzuki ..... we didn't bring spare anything , all we had was pop, snacks,and some decent hiking boots as backup , you'll be fine , have an adventure
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I would recommend doing Fins & Things plus Hell's Revenge which are just east of town in the Sand Flats area if you haven't been to Moab before. Both are great fun with great views in all directions plus many of the hardest obstacles are optional so you can choose to do them or not. Usually have traffic on them so you are not all alone many miles from town. Seven Mile Rim is very, very scenic with overlooks looking east into Arches NP plus you can see all the way to the Uncompahgre Plateau just across the border into Colorado. You wheel right between Monitor and Merrimac Buttes which is incredibly scenic plus can play on optional Wipe Out Hill which you pass by on the north side. Also the wonderful Determination Towers along the Seven Mile Rim trail plus an optional large arch which is easily wheeled down to near the eastern Rim. Gemini Bridges/Bull Canyon is very scenic. It is a 1/4 mile walk to right below the Gemini Bridges from the parking area down in Bull Canyon. One can also wheel a couple of miles farther west up scenic Bull Canyon to an old mining area. Come back up from Bull Canyon and head west until you are right near the top of Gemini Bridges and walk the short distance to them plus walk across the Bridges. I would NOT recommend driving the tough Golden Spike Trail between the Golden Crack and Poison Spider by yourself. Not to be trifled with in a single vehicle. Poison Spider is a wonderful and scenic trail. I've run it alone but that wasn't the smartest thing I've ever done. The Tower Arch Trail in Arches NP plus the short hike out to the Arch itself is great and then head south on the easy and sandy fun trail leading south to the Eye of the Whale Arch area which is still in Arches NP. Once you've been to the Moab area you'll want to go back and back.
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Definately excited. I'm heading out tomorrow and staying in Wyoming then the rest of the way Thursday.
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I'm leaving tonight for Moab. I'm all loaded up with fluids and gear. It should be fun.



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This is a cool suspension bridge over the gorge.

Heading out for the trails in 30 minutes.

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Gold bar rim is basically the end or beginning of Golden spike depending on which way you run it.....
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Made it through Gemini, Gold Bar, Golden Spike, and Poison Spider. 7 hours of fun! Pictures coming
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Love Moab. I may never get to wheel it again but will always remember it.

Cane creeks is a good trail
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Old 03-19-2012, 10:05 AM   #22 (permalink)
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it was a hell of a lot of fun. i'm already planning next years trip. I wish I would have had more then two days to spend down there. but, i have been dreaming of going there for 12 years.
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