Am I bling bling yet? - Pirate4x4.Com : 4x4 and Off-Road Forum

HandBuilt · 04-22-2003, 07:23 AM

So, I got tired of my e brake.

Hydraulic actuation. are we bling yet?

This is the first new part I've ever put on the rover. I'm getting weak.

Nice Dynalite Wilwood caliper covered in mud.

Want the stresses in that bad boy, there bub?

Just delivered a 1 hour college presentation on this setup. Full design and calculations, design criteria, etc etc...

More pics...

I need bigger rubber. 36s don't fill up the wheel wells anymore. Name those flares...

Next step? Rear leafs up front, double shackles, move axle BACK 3", divorce mounted T case and... diesel!

Serious One · 04-22-2003, 07:41 AM

TJ flares! Hehe.

Only reason I really know is I shot a bunch of j**ps last week!

Nice e-brake man!

HandBuilt · 04-22-2003, 07:49 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Serious One
TJ flares! Hehe.

dammit, was it really that easy?

Yep, Jeep parts on a rover. And there wasn't any explosions or spontaneous combustion when I put the both of them together.

lwg · 04-22-2003, 07:58 AM

I agree with Michael. TJ flares. I almost mounted some CJ flares on my truck, but they were too small for my modified wheel arches. Baby Jeeps!!

That e-brake is really sweet. Now if someone would just figure out how to mount the Wilwood brakes on all four corners I could get one of them there 3,000:1 crawl ratios and be able to stop. Big Bling Bling!!

Serious One · 04-22-2003, 08:00 AM

Hey no worries! I have TJ stainless filler necks on the CrewCab and a Jeep Grand Cherokee air intake elbow!

Hmmm...as with the lights thread, there are MANY parts on a Rover that are used by other makes, visa versa too.

No other car in the world uses 12 guage red wire....for example.

Serious One · 04-22-2003, 08:03 AM

LWG! I HAVE run the Wilwoods on the front axle of my '90 RR!

They're now sitting on the bench, along with all the other brake parts looking for a nice warm home. Someone that will treat them right, buy them presents now and then and appreciate their blingie-ness.

That person could be you!

Rover Addiction · 04-22-2003, 08:08 AM

Mike,

Did those Wilwoods stop better? I'm still looking for a good way to stop my 37s since my 3/8" thick steel rims are so darn heavy that it's killing my brakes.

-John

JSBriggs · 04-22-2003, 08:19 AM

Nice work. With the lever mounted next to the drivers seat, I bet it looks like a flush lever on a manual head!

-Jeff

Serious One · 04-22-2003, 08:45 AM

I think the Rover calipers are more than adequate IMO. The Wilwoods, although nice, didn't seem to cover the entire depth of the rotor with the pad the way the LR caliper did.

IMO, you are better off looking into a different assist system, and/or doing dual calipers.

Leafsprung · 04-22-2003, 08:56 AM

I always felt the LR drum parking brake was very effective. I had a buddy with a TJ that had a willwood setup and it wouldnt hold as well . . . Cooper tried to tell me the drum was better and I didnt believe it till I saw it in person. Looks nice though.

LWG - I have the willwoods on the front too, cant get the fuckers to stop squeaking tried several different pad compounds. They stop OK, but I need to bleed it again and rework the caliper mount. . .

-Regards
-Ike

64rovr · 04-22-2003, 09:04 AM

JL, more pics of the flares please

my truck may need them to be legal, and they dont appear to look that bad.

nice work on the ebrake.

PTSchram · 04-22-2003, 11:22 AM

Bah! Rovers don't go fast enough to need good brakes! Especially Series trucks.

Last weekend, it took us seven hours to drive nine miles and I never took the truck out of lo-lock, even when it was on its side.

Peace,
Paul

Serious One · 04-22-2003, 12:49 PM

does this mean the steerin box transfer was successful???

PTSchram · 04-22-2003, 01:02 PM

No, the steering box transfer is still on-going-I bent my gear puller all to hell trying to pull the arm. The check is in the mail and I have given upon anyone in this behemoth company helping us find a seat for your truck.

OK, now that I've caught my breath I can get on with hi-jacking this thread.

Packing the truck to head to Kentucky to go wheeling, I topped off the power steering just to find the fluid pouring out the pinion seal as quickly as I could pour it in-word! Seriously, it was literally flowing out as fast as I couldpour it in and we know what SWMBO would have to say if I said we couldn't go on our trip. Am I the only one who goes wheeling with a spare power steering gearbox in the back of his truck? Lucas tranny stop-leak rocks. I figured worst-case scenario I could find a backwoods garage and walk them through swapping the box.

When I rolled the truck on its side, the spare box did as much, if not more damage than the trails. Yes, I know it is unsafe to have unsecured cargo while wheeling, I had no intentions of driving trails as rough as we ended up running.

When we came out of the trail, we encountered an almost new Nissan truck abandoned, stuck in a rut. While we were standing aorund looking ofr the driver a fellow drives up on a motorcycle and seeing my Rovers North shirt asks if the Disco is mine. He proceeds to inform me he has a 109 in the gorge and then he says "I AM AN ENTHUSIAST!". Do you know him Ike?

Peace,
Paul

HandBuilt · 04-22-2003, 02:02 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Serious One
I think the Rover calipers are more than adequate IMO. The Wilwoods, although nice, didn't seem to cover the entire depth of the rotor with the pad the way the LR caliper did.

IMO, you are better off looking into a different assist system, and/or doing dual calipers.

(shameless "grease" plug)

Haaaaaaadro... boost!

My hydroboosted rangie axles stop with 36s. Even with another 88 in tow, and a spare engine in the 88, and my ton o' junk onboard. Calipers probably won't improve your braking performance, and the girling calipers are already the shiznit. They are pretty good factory stock. The wilwoods might actually make things worse!

Mike, got part #s for the Wilwood stuff? What's needed to bolt it up?

Leafsprung · 04-22-2003, 03:49 PM

Paul,
I probably owned that 109 . . .
-Ike

Serious One · 04-22-2003, 04:08 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by HandBuilt

Haaaaaaadro... boost!

Mike, got part #s for the Wilwood stuff? What's needed to bolt it up?

Yeah, I've got the Haaydddro boost too. Dunno why. Maybe inadequate braking is the reason?

You need two bolts to bolt it up. Seriously, that's it. They go right on. No shimming, no spacers, no brackets.

Do a search for ABS or something and you'll see pics of my calipers installed.

Sorry I don't have any part no's.

white130 · 04-22-2003, 06:58 PM

Ike, you HAVE probably owned every 109, except the ones I've owned....LOL

David.

PTSchram · 04-23-2003, 07:16 AM

I know of two 109s that Ike hasn't owned (well OK, most likely).

Ike knows of whom I speak...

Peace,
Paul

04-22-2003, 07:23 AM	#1 (permalink)
HandBuilt Registered User Join Date: Aug 2002 Member # 13395 Location: Canadia Posts: 1,466	Am I bling bling yet? So, I got tired of my e brake. Hydraulic actuation. are we bling yet? This is the first new part I've ever put on the rover. I'm getting weak. Nice Dynalite Wilwood caliper covered in mud. Want the stresses in that bad boy, there bub? Just delivered a 1 hour college presentation on this setup. Full design and calculations, design criteria, etc etc... More pics... I need bigger rubber. 36s don't fill up the wheel wells anymore. Name those flares... Next step? Rear leafs up front, double shackles, move axle BACK 3", divorce mounted T case and... diesel! __________________ TDI FZJ80 and Misc LR junk

04-22-2003, 07:41 AM	#2 (permalink)
Serious One Registered User Join Date: Dec 2001 Member # 8768 Location: Utahr Posts: 4,054	TJ flares! Hehe. Only reason I really know is I shot a bunch of j**ps last week! Nice e-brake man! __________________ Michael

04-22-2003, 07:58 AM	#4 (permalink)
lwg Registered User Join Date: May 2002 Member # 12044 Location: Portland, OR Posts: 2,237	I agree with Michael. TJ flares. I almost mounted some CJ flares on my truck, but they were too small for my modified wheel arches. Baby Jeeps!! That e-brake is really sweet. Now if someone would just figure out how to mount the Wilwood brakes on all four corners I could get one of them there 3,000:1 crawl ratios and be able to stop. Big Bling Bling!! __________________ Larry [url]www.columbiaoverland.com[/url]

04-22-2003, 08:00 AM	#5 (permalink)
Serious One Registered User Join Date: Dec 2001 Member # 8768 Location: Utahr Posts: 4,054	Hey no worries! I have TJ stainless filler necks on the CrewCab and a Jeep Grand Cherokee air intake elbow! Hmmm...as with the lights thread, there are MANY parts on a Rover that are used by other makes, visa versa too. No other car in the world uses 12 guage red wire....for example. __________________ Michael

04-22-2003, 08:03 AM	#6 (permalink)
Serious One Registered User Join Date: Dec 2001 Member # 8768 Location: Utahr Posts: 4,054	LWG! I HAVE run the Wilwoods on the front axle of my '90 RR! They're now sitting on the bench, along with all the other brake parts looking for a nice warm home. Someone that will treat them right, buy them presents now and then and appreciate their blingie-ness. That person could be you! __________________ Michael

04-22-2003, 08:08 AM	#7 (permalink)
Rover Addiction Registered User Join Date: May 2001 Member # 4749 Location: Erie, CO Posts: 975	Mike, Did those Wilwoods stop better? I'm still looking for a good way to stop my 37s since my 3/8" thick steel rims are so darn heavy that it's killing my brakes. -John __________________ "All the parts falling off this truck are of the finest british craftsmanship."

04-22-2003, 08:19 AM	#8 (permalink)
JSBriggs Registered User Join Date: Feb 2002 Member # 9768 Location: Auburn CA Posts: 1,387	Nice work. With the lever mounted next to the drivers seat, I bet it looks like a flush lever on a manual head! -Jeff __________________ All it needs is just a little luvin'

04-22-2003, 08:45 AM	#9 (permalink)
Serious One Registered User Join Date: Dec 2001 Member # 8768 Location: Utahr Posts: 4,054	I think the Rover calipers are more than adequate IMO. The Wilwoods, although nice, didn't seem to cover the entire depth of the rotor with the pad the way the LR caliper did. IMO, you are better off looking into a different assist system, and/or doing dual calipers. __________________ Michael

04-22-2003, 08:56 AM	#10 (permalink)
Leafsprung Registered User Join Date: Jul 2002 Member # 12663 Location: Oregon Posts: 1,265	Parking disc brake I always felt the LR drum parking brake was very effective. I had a buddy with a TJ that had a willwood setup and it wouldnt hold as well . . . Cooper tried to tell me the drum was better and I didnt believe it till I saw it in person. Looks nice though. LWG - I have the willwoods on the front too, cant get the fuckers to stop squeaking tried several different pad compounds. They stop OK, but I need to bleed it again and rework the caliper mount. . . -Regards -Ike __________________ I am what I am - Popeye

04-22-2003, 09:04 AM	#11 (permalink)
64rovr Registered User Join Date: Sep 2000 Member # 1745 Location: MA Posts: 2,118	JL, more pics of the flares please my truck may need them to be legal, and they dont appear to look that bad. nice work on the ebrake.

04-22-2003, 11:22 AM	#12 (permalink)
PTSchram Registered User Join Date: Jun 2002 Member # 12499 Location: In a Snap-On truck tryin' to make it pay Posts: 10,561	Bah! Rovers don't go fast enough to need good brakes! Especially Series trucks. Last weekend, it took us seven hours to drive nine miles and I never took the truck out of lo-lock, even when it was on its side. Peace, Paul __________________ Wrenchin' to riches! If you want peace, prepare for war.

04-22-2003, 12:49 PM	#13 (permalink)
Serious One Registered User Join Date: Dec 2001 Member # 8768 Location: Utahr Posts: 4,054	does this mean the steerin box transfer was successful??? __________________ Michael

04-22-2003, 01:02 PM	#14 (permalink)
PTSchram Registered User Join Date: Jun 2002 Member # 12499 Location: In a Snap-On truck tryin' to make it pay Posts: 10,561	No, the steering box transfer is still on-going-I bent my gear puller all to hell trying to pull the arm. The check is in the mail and I have given upon anyone in this behemoth company helping us find a seat for your truck. OK, now that I've caught my breath I can get on with hi-jacking this thread. Packing the truck to head to Kentucky to go wheeling, I topped off the power steering just to find the fluid pouring out the pinion seal as quickly as I could pour it in-word! Seriously, it was literally flowing out as fast as I couldpour it in and we know what SWMBO would have to say if I said we couldn't go on our trip. Am I the only one who goes wheeling with a spare power steering gearbox in the back of his truck? Lucas tranny stop-leak rocks. I figured worst-case scenario I could find a backwoods garage and walk them through swapping the box. When I rolled the truck on its side, the spare box did as much, if not more damage than the trails. Yes, I know it is unsafe to have unsecured cargo while wheeling, I had no intentions of driving trails as rough as we ended up running. When we came out of the trail, we encountered an almost new Nissan truck abandoned, stuck in a rut. While we were standing aorund looking ofr the driver a fellow drives up on a motorcycle and seeing my Rovers North shirt asks if the Disco is mine. He proceeds to inform me he has a 109 in the gorge and then he says "I AM AN ENTHUSIAST!". Do you know him Ike? Peace, Paul __________________ Wrenchin' to riches! If you want peace, prepare for war.

04-22-2003, 03:49 PM	#16 (permalink)
Leafsprung Registered User Join Date: Jul 2002 Member # 12663 Location: Oregon Posts: 1,265	Trucks Paul, I probably owned that 109 . . . -Ike __________________ I am what I am - Popeye

04-22-2003, 06:58 PM	#18 (permalink)
white130 Registered User Join Date: Jan 2003 Member # 16117 Location: Great Smokey Mtns Posts: 76	109's Ike, you HAVE probably owned every 109, except the ones I've owned....LOL David.

04-23-2003, 07:16 AM	#19 (permalink)
PTSchram Registered User Join Date: Jun 2002 Member # 12499 Location: In a Snap-On truck tryin' to make it pay Posts: 10,561	I know of two 109s that Ike hasn't owned (well OK, most likely). Ike knows of whom I speak... Peace, Paul __________________ Wrenchin' to riches! If you want peace, prepare for war.

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