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Old Scout · 02-06-2002, 05:31 PM

Yea yea I'm breaking my own rule !

I need a rear brake rotor, no need for it to be a good one. Deep grooves,rust rock rash is just fine fine with me.

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or cash let me know.
Bob

RVR OVR · 02-06-2002, 05:46 PM

how soon do you need it? i'll have 2 off a 97 in about 2 weeks. just pay for the shipping.

tom

Old Scout · 02-06-2002, 09:31 PM

I only need one for figuring out my d60 axles. PM me your name/address and I will put some cash and a few

s from the local Micro's in the mail.

Bob

evilfij · 02-06-2002, 10:25 PM

Oldscout,

You know what the best part about that D60 will be?

all the rover people will think you put in a salisbury!

LOL

show us some pics when you get going. Also what did you get the 60 out of? J20, van?

Ron

Old Scout · 02-07-2002, 07:18 AM

Salisbury=

I pulled it from a Ford Van. I have pics in the camera and will be doing a how to tech page, perhaps for the tech section here on POR.

It's going to be a 4:10 ARB 1.5"/35 spline, SF, 5x6.5" with Rover brakes and ABS sensors. I look to be able to pull it off for ~1300!

RockRover · 02-07-2002, 09:57 AM

I have to ask...Why a 60 rear? Your still left with 1.2" dia front axles and Berfields. SG's Summer Bro's 30 spliners have a lifetime guarantee on them, and I have yet to hear of a GBR R&P letting go. Total cost for the build up would be a hair under the 60. $700 for the axles and machining of the spindles...$514 for the 30 spline ARB...And approx. $335 for the R&P. AND you can sell the existing stuff you have. Total O.P. is around $1600, and you have a good clearanced and disked rear.

--D

Old Scout · 02-07-2002, 10:01 PM

Why the 60 rear? I'm building it with a SF axle that has 5x5.5" lug pattern. I will use adapters to get to 5x6.5. A front 44 is in the works.

When I put a front 60 in the scout I will move the 44 to the rover and remove the adapters and have 5x5.5 wheels on the rover!

You say I can build my rover axle beefy for a little cheaper than my 60?
It looks like more!
Your at 1500 and I'm at 1300 and much beefier! and will still be able to sell my old junk.

RockRover · 02-08-2002, 08:09 AM

Okay...I didn't know you were going with a 44 front. Good deal then! How about the width (WMS) on the 60? I thought the Ford vans were full width?

--D

Old Scout · 02-08-2002, 08:13 AM

Yea it's full width. I'm cutting off the Full Float spindles and welding on Set 20 Semi Float bearing ends.

Rover Addiction · 02-08-2002, 09:22 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by RockRover
SG's Summer Bro's 30 spliners have a lifetime guarantee on them, and I have yet to hear of a GBR R&P letting go.
--D

Yup, I would love to go with the 30 spline axles, but I don't think anyone has broken the GBR 24 spline rears either! Yeah, I know you twisted 'em, but I understand that they guy that bought them from you ran them for quite a while after that too..

And unfortunately, yes, I've broken a GBR R&P. Took the teeth right off the rear R&P in little sluice.. GBR 4.1 gearset, 1.5 years old at the time, running 35" MT/Rs.

-John

Rover Addiction · 02-08-2002, 09:30 AM

Old Scout,
You'll have to let me know how that turns out. I'm thinking I'll take what you learn and what Doug learns and apply them to my D90 and D110.

And you should talk to Gearman Sean about the Salisbury. He set up mine a little while ago in my D110 and told me that he thinks the Salisbury is actually stronger than a Dana 60 because they eliminated a problem weakness in the pinion.

So... maybe that salisbury axle ain't so funny afterall! And of course, keeping the offset diff makes driveline issues a whole lot easier to deal with.

Just a thought though...

-John

Old Scout · 02-08-2002, 09:40 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Rover Addiction

So... maybe that salisbury axle ain't so funny afterall! And of course, keeping the offset diff makes driveline issues a whole lot easier to deal with.

Just a thought though...

-John

MY 60 is offset, it came out of a ford van. It was 80.00! You know were I can get a salisbury for 80.0????

Rover Addiction · 02-08-2002, 09:56 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Old Scout

MY 60 is offset, it came out of a ford van. It was 80.00! You know were I can get a salisbury for 80.0????

Ok, Ok, you win.. Junkyard Warrior..

Anyway, I gotta see this stuff when you get it running. I'm curious, is the 60 going to clear your fuel tank? I ran into this problem when thinking about swapping in a Salisbury on my D90. I'm actually thinking about doing a new fuel tank in the load bed to give me more room underneath to stuff big axles and do funky stuff with the suspension. Or maybe I can do a couple small fuel tanks tucked up underneath to keep the CG low.

Still a work in progress. Oh yeah, and I can't wait to try and break it at the CC!!! I'm bringing my 35" tires too just in case these 37s are being a PITA...

-John

RockRover · 02-08-2002, 03:27 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Rover Addiction

And unfortunately, yes, I've broken a GBR R&P. Took the teeth right off the rear R&P in little sluice.. GBR 4.1 gearset, 1.5 years old at the time, running 35" MT/Rs.

-John

Ahhhh! So your the guy who "didn't set the gears up right"...

Hee, hee, hee!...Always one to stir up some controversy!

--D

evilfij · 02-08-2002, 04:41 PM

I paid $200 for my 110 salisbury. Including all the lug nuts two trailing arms and the a frame

Stock salisbury's are 4 pinion where as D60s are two pinion, is that what you mean John or are you talking about the actual pinion?

Oldscout, you have gone this far, why not put in a D60 front and show us how it is done.

Ron

02-06-2002, 05:31 PM	#1 (permalink)
Old Scout IH/Rover Moderator Join Date: Feb 2000 Member # 17 Location: Aptos,Ca Posts: 13,398	Wanted Yea yea I'm breaking my own rule ! I need a rear brake rotor, no need for it to be a good one. Deep grooves,rust rock rash is just fine fine with me. . or cash let me know. Bob __________________ I like beer. On occasion, I will even drink beer to celebrate a major event such as the fall of communism or the fact that the refrigerator is still working." BUY MY BOAT http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/misc-...e-history.html

02-06-2002, 09:31 PM	#3 (permalink)
Old Scout IH/Rover Moderator Join Date: Feb 2000 Member # 17 Location: Aptos,Ca Posts: 13,398	I only need one for figuring out my d60 axles. PM me your name/address and I will put some cash and a few s from the local Micro's in the mail. Bob __________________ I like beer. On occasion, I will even drink beer to celebrate a major event such as the fall of communism or the fact that the refrigerator is still working." BUY MY BOAT http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/misc-...e-history.html

02-06-2002, 10:25 PM	#4 (permalink)
evilfij Registered User Join Date: Oct 2001 Member # 7755 Location: Main Line PA Posts: 1,953	Oldscout, You know what the best part about that D60 will be? all the rover people will think you put in a salisbury! LOL show us some pics when you get going. Also what did you get the 60 out of? J20, van? Ron __________________ :evil:

02-07-2002, 07:18 AM	#5 (permalink)
Old Scout IH/Rover Moderator Join Date: Feb 2000 Member # 17 Location: Aptos,Ca Posts: 13,398	Salisbury= I pulled it from a Ford Van. I have pics in the camera and will be doing a how to tech page, perhaps for the tech section here on POR. It's going to be a 4:10 ARB 1.5"/35 spline, SF, 5x6.5" with Rover brakes and ABS sensors. I look to be able to pull it off for ~1300! __________________ I like beer. On occasion, I will even drink beer to celebrate a major event such as the fall of communism or the fact that the refrigerator is still working." BUY MY BOAT http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/misc-...e-history.html

02-07-2002, 09:57 AM	#6 (permalink)
RockRover Rock God Join Date: Apr 2001 Member # 4101 Location: Santa Fe Posts: 2,232	I have to ask...Why a 60 rear? Your still left with 1.2" dia front axles and Berfields. SG's Summer Bro's 30 spliners have a lifetime guarantee on them, and I have yet to hear of a GBR R&P letting go. Total cost for the build up would be a hair under the 60. $700 for the axles and machining of the spindles...$514 for the 30 spline ARB...And approx. $335 for the R&P. AND you can sell the existing stuff you have. Total O.P. is around $1600, and you have a good clearanced and disked rear. --D __________________ Hendrix 'X' Chassis #006 http://www.hunt4steve.com/Doug.html

02-06-2002, 05:46 PM	#2 (permalink)
RVR OVR Registered User Join Date: Jan 2002 Member # 9056 Location: Plainfield, IL Posts: 179	how soon do you need it? i'll have 2 off a 97 in about 2 weeks. just pay for the shipping. tom

02-07-2002, 10:01 PM	#7 (permalink)
Old Scout IH/Rover Moderator Join Date: Feb 2000 Member # 17 Location: Aptos,Ca Posts: 13,398	Why the 60 rear? I'm building it with a SF axle that has 5x5.5" lug pattern. I will use adapters to get to 5x6.5. A front 44 is in the works. When I put a front 60 in the scout I will move the 44 to the rover and remove the adapters and have 5x5.5 wheels on the rover! You say I can build my rover axle beefy for a little cheaper than my 60? It looks like more! Your at 1500 and I'm at 1300 and much beefier! and will still be able to sell my old junk. __________________ I like beer. On occasion, I will even drink beer to celebrate a major event such as the fall of communism or the fact that the refrigerator is still working." BUY MY BOAT http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/misc-...e-history.html

02-08-2002, 08:09 AM	#8 (permalink)
RockRover Rock God Join Date: Apr 2001 Member # 4101 Location: Santa Fe Posts: 2,232	Okay...I didn't know you were going with a 44 front. Good deal then! How about the width (WMS) on the 60? I thought the Ford vans were full width? --D __________________ Hendrix 'X' Chassis #006 http://www.hunt4steve.com/Doug.html

02-08-2002, 08:13 AM	#9 (permalink)
Old Scout IH/Rover Moderator Join Date: Feb 2000 Member # 17 Location: Aptos,Ca Posts: 13,398	Yea it's full width. I'm cutting off the Full Float spindles and welding on Set 20 Semi Float bearing ends. __________________ I like beer. On occasion, I will even drink beer to celebrate a major event such as the fall of communism or the fact that the refrigerator is still working." BUY MY BOAT http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/misc-...e-history.html

02-08-2002, 09:30 AM	#11 (permalink)
Rover Addiction Registered User Join Date: May 2001 Member # 4749 Location: Erie, CO Posts: 975	Old Scout, You'll have to let me know how that turns out. I'm thinking I'll take what you learn and what Doug learns and apply them to my D90 and D110. And you should talk to Gearman Sean about the Salisbury. He set up mine a little while ago in my D110 and told me that he thinks the Salisbury is actually stronger than a Dana 60 because they eliminated a problem weakness in the pinion. So... maybe that salisbury axle ain't so funny afterall! And of course, keeping the offset diff makes driveline issues a whole lot easier to deal with. Just a thought though... -John __________________ "All the parts falling off this truck are of the finest british craftsmanship."

02-08-2002, 04:41 PM	#15 (permalink)
evilfij Registered User Join Date: Oct 2001 Member # 7755 Location: Main Line PA Posts: 1,953	I paid $200 for my 110 salisbury. Including all the lug nuts two trailing arms and the a frame Stock salisbury's are 4 pinion where as D60s are two pinion, is that what you mean John or are you talking about the actual pinion? Oldscout, you have gone this far, why not put in a D60 front and show us how it is done. Ron __________________ :evil:

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