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Old Scout · 02-07-2002, 07:34 AM

OK I admit when It comes to Rovers, I'm still learning. I have had my Disco for only 6 months and my only exposure to British stuff previous to this was a Triumph Stag and my Jag XJ12L.

Fear Factory's post is most enlightening for me. This is the first time I had seen some one else's displeasure with a RTE product besides me! Most Discoweb guys give him god status. I have a bad lean and don't know why. My pass side is 3/4" lower than the driver side, and I'm not a small guy(6'1"/230). Did John over compensate on his new springs?

Is there an easy fix? Are spacers the only answer?

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Originally posted by Fear Factory
As far as springs, I had Rovertyms a while back and didn't like them at all. They weren't side specific so the drivers side always sat lower which is annoying. I threw them out and got the SG ones which I like far better. I have no experience with the latest Rovertym springs so maybe they're better. .

Rover Addiction · 02-07-2002, 01:46 PM

Have you tried swapping the springs left to right? I know that has helped for some of my friends.

I have SG springs on my D90 and D110 and the ones on the D110 haved sagged enought to develop a noticeable lean over time. I've been meaning to swap 'em, but I've been kinda busy.

Dunno, might help on a disco though.

And yeah, I like RTE stuff, but I know that nobody is perfect. I do know that SG bumpers and sliders bend, so even the good expensive stuff isn't infallable. And yes, I know from experience and my trucks show it. If you compare the build quality and fit for the $, I think RTE gives you the best stuff for discos and Rangies. Of course, they don't do defenders, so I don't have much of their stuff.

-John

GRNRVR · 02-07-2002, 02:39 PM

Old Scout, Have you called John and talked to him about it yet?

RoverWrench · 02-07-2002, 04:06 PM

Old Scout...I am not a God by any means or by my definition, so please forget that crap. My biggest asset is hearing what guys like you say. And I want to hear it as that helps me. When I first got into springs I had a bum vender, so I switched. If you are having a problem please call me as customer service is important to me to fix any problems.
Also on sliders, I made what I think was a strong slider, now out of 250 sets there have been several people who have had a problem. I am adding(changing) another strenghting pat to my slider to cure this problem. And I will do whatever I need to satisfy customers who have a problem. If I need to do it better I will, why not. It helps me and it helps you.
So, not wanting to get long winded, I read the posts and hope I can add to the posts here. But please call.

John

Serious One · 02-07-2002, 04:41 PM

Hi John,

I called and we talked about springs about 2 weeks ago. I was just wondering if you have gotten your new shipment in yet.

I was asking for a set for my LWB with bumper/winch/roofrack combo.

Looking forward to hearing from you. I get rave reviews about the springs from lots of other people, so I am anxious!!!

Later,

Michael

ErikS · 02-07-2002, 05:11 PM

I've had the RTE 2" springs on for about a month and it sits almost exactly level(OK maybe an 1/8th off). If I were to do it again I definitly would buy RTE. Anyhow I hope this aids in your quest for springtopia.

road1will · 02-07-2002, 06:32 PM

hey OS- looks like youre busted

john, whats the ETA on your range rover rear bumpers? my dads been waiting you know

adam from massachusetts

Old Scout · 02-07-2002, 09:27 PM

John: I meant no disrespect with my god statement, you have a well earned reputation in the rover community.

I didn't want to rock the boat on the rover side when I only have 25 years of Scout knowledge vs 6 months with the Rover. My heading of I'm rover newbie should of giving you a clue of were I was coming from.

I will call you next week when my schedule will allow it.

OH yea welcome to POR!

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Hey Go Patriots/MOM hardley busted I just get to cut to the chase and not have to deal with you por newbies!

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RoverWrench · 02-08-2002, 05:46 AM

Serious One...Spring shipment being shipped to me 2/12...

GoPats...Your Pats did good this year...I am starting production on RR rear bumpers end of this coming week.

Old Scout...I know theres no disrespect, I am just blood and bones and like you still learning about these damn rovers. We got to love the challenge...I should have made my "handle" old fart. As far as being a POR addict I'm here to learn and chop jaws. I got thick skin so dont worry about anyone blasting RTE.
I will say its a relief about having a place where turning your rover into something else is ok...and I dont sell or plug products on bull boards, I am here for the bull. I certainly dont have the knowledge or experience some of you guys have...I just love the sport and the challenge. I also respect SG and RW'w products and efforts...they were here when I got here and will be here when I'm gone. So all that being said...Lets POR ty

JB-S

02-07-2002, 01:46 PM	#2 (permalink)
Rover Addiction Registered User Join Date: May 2001 Member # 4749 Location: Erie, CO Posts: 975	Have you tried swapping the springs left to right? I know that has helped for some of my friends. I have SG springs on my D90 and D110 and the ones on the D110 haved sagged enought to develop a noticeable lean over time. I've been meaning to swap 'em, but I've been kinda busy. Dunno, might help on a disco though. And yeah, I like RTE stuff, but I know that nobody is perfect. I do know that SG bumpers and sliders bend, so even the good expensive stuff isn't infallable. And yes, I know from experience and my trucks show it. If you compare the build quality and fit for the $, I think RTE gives you the best stuff for discos and Rangies. Of course, they don't do defenders, so I don't have much of their stuff. -John __________________ "All the parts falling off this truck are of the finest british craftsmanship."

02-07-2002, 09:27 PM	#8 (permalink)
Old Scout IH/Rover Moderator Join Date: Feb 2000 Member # 17 Location: Aptos,Ca Posts: 13,398	John: I meant no disrespect with my god statement, you have a well earned reputation in the rover community. I didn't want to rock the boat on the rover side when I only have 25 years of Scout knowledge vs 6 months with the Rover. My heading of I'm rover newbie should of giving you a clue of were I was coming from. I will call you next week when my schedule will allow it. OH yea welcome to POR! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Hey Go Patriots/MOM hardley busted I just get to cut to the chase and not have to deal with you por newbies! ------------------------------------------------------------------------- __________________ I like beer. On occasion, I will even drink beer to celebrate a major event such as the fall of communism or the fact that the refrigerator is still working." BUY MY BOAT http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/misc-...e-history.html

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02-07-2002, 02:39 PM	#3 (permalink)
GRNRVR Registered User Join Date: Jan 2002 Member # 9055 Location: Falls Church, VA Posts: 75	Old Scout, Have you called John and talked to him about it yet?

02-07-2002, 04:06 PM	#4 (permalink)
RoverWrench Registered User Join Date: Feb 2002 Member # 9820 Location: Va Posts: 72	Old Scout...I am not a God by any means or by my definition, so please forget that crap. My biggest asset is hearing what guys like you say. And I want to hear it as that helps me. When I first got into springs I had a bum vender, so I switched. If you are having a problem please call me as customer service is important to me to fix any problems. Also on sliders, I made what I think was a strong slider, now out of 250 sets there have been several people who have had a problem. I am adding(changing) another strenghting pat to my slider to cure this problem. And I will do whatever I need to satisfy customers who have a problem. If I need to do it better I will, why not. It helps me and it helps you. So, not wanting to get long winded, I read the posts and hope I can add to the posts here. But please call. John

02-07-2002, 04:41 PM	#5 (permalink)
Serious One Registered User Join Date: Dec 2001 Member # 8768 Location: Utahr Posts: 4,054	Hi John, I called and we talked about springs about 2 weeks ago. I was just wondering if you have gotten your new shipment in yet. I was asking for a set for my LWB with bumper/winch/roofrack combo. Looking forward to hearing from you. I get rave reviews about the springs from lots of other people, so I am anxious!!! Later, Michael

02-07-2002, 05:11 PM	#6 (permalink)
ErikS Registered User Join Date: Dec 2001 Member # 8993 Location: Utah Posts: 16	I've had the RTE 2" springs on for about a month and it sits almost exactly level(OK maybe an 1/8th off). If I were to do it again I definitly would buy RTE. Anyhow I hope this aids in your quest for springtopia.

02-07-2002, 06:32 PM	#7 (permalink)
road1will Registered User Join Date: Dec 2001 Member # 8871 Location: Cleveland Tennessee Posts: 3,344	hey OS- looks like youre busted john, whats the ETA on your range rover rear bumpers? my dads been waiting you know adam from massachusetts

02-08-2002, 05:46 AM	#9 (permalink)
RoverWrench Registered User Join Date: Feb 2002 Member # 9820 Location: Va Posts: 72	Serious One...Spring shipment being shipped to me 2/12... GoPats...Your Pats did good this year...I am starting production on RR rear bumpers end of this coming week. Old Scout...I know theres no disrespect, I am just blood and bones and like you still learning about these damn rovers. We got to love the challenge...I should have made my "handle" old fart. As far as being a POR addict I'm here to learn and chop jaws. I got thick skin so dont worry about anyone blasting RTE. I will say its a relief about having a place where turning your rover into something else is ok...and I dont sell or plug products on bull boards, I am here for the bull. I certainly dont have the knowledge or experience some of you guys have...I just love the sport and the challenge. I also respect SG and RW'w products and efforts...they were here when I got here and will be here when I'm gone. So all that being said...Lets POR ty JB-S