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jaco · 03-22-2002, 02:52 PM

Hi
We are doing a self drive safari in Africa starting from Windhoek, Namibia on May the 10th. We are going through the Namib desert, sossusvlei, swakopmund and Etosha, From the Caprivi we are going into Mahangu and Moremi and the Okavango delta. From there we are going to do the Zambezi river rafting(grade 5 rapids) and end the trip at Victoria falls from the Zambia side.
(May 23)
We have 2 open seats available to cut down costs. All other accomodation is already worked out. We got the vehicles, we need drivers!
All in Land Rover td5
Please contact me for more details.
jaco@offroadacademy.com

Lance · 03-23-2002, 09:34 AM

how much $$$?

Old Scout · 03-23-2002, 09:41 AM

Are Lance and Nigel going to go on Safari??

They better put some 37"s on it if your going to drive!

jaco · 03-23-2002, 10:21 AM

Hi
We have arranged the full itinerary. $2200 US will get you the whole thing. All is included in Land Rover, fridge etc. We have 3 vehicles. You do the driving. Also included gas, maintanance, meals, accomodation, entry fees to Game parks. 3700km of safari drive. We planned the trip for May but had some cancellations. Mostly Canadians with 2 guys from the states.
Jaco:
usa:

rustycruiser · 03-23-2002, 11:03 AM

I hope that price includes the $1500 air ticket from JFK to Windhoek (or Cape Town or Jo'burg). Otherwise, your prices are a "tad" high. Have fun in the Caprivi. Hope the nice little conflict there is finally over, with Jonas Savimbi finnally offed by the MPLA.

Old Scout · 03-23-2002, 11:15 AM

I don't think that price is high at all for 13 day trip!!!! Have you viewed the video of the trip on hisSITE?
Ever been on a two week sea cruise???

looks like Web Daddy won't be the only fat bastard there

rustycruiser · 03-23-2002, 11:21 AM

Old Scout,
Spent more than half my life living in Southern Africa. Been to most of the places he mentioned, and would reccommend the trip to anyone. But, remember that current exchange rate from US dollers to SA Rands is 12 to 1. I could a shitload more down there with R26,000. Just my opinion.

Ross

Old Scout · 03-23-2002, 11:37 AM

Local knowledge is a very powerful tool, I'm sure I could show a bus load of Japanese tourists San Francisco,Napa,Yosemite for much less than they pay a Japanese tour company. So what's your point?

rustycruiser · 03-23-2002, 11:50 AM

Local knowlege has "nothing" to do with it. I have just emailed a friend of mine to keep me honest. He runs trips out of Windhoek in 75 and 60 series Land Cruisers [heavy sarcasm]not the "ultra-reliable TD5"[/heavy sarcasm]. I asked him to quote me what he would charge an average American tyourist for a similar trip, based on Jaco's descriptions. Once he replies, I will post it, and either eat crow and shut up, or not.

Ross

jaco · 03-23-2002, 12:15 PM

Thanks for all the info, your'e a great help.
Just make sure it includes 14 days on the ground. Youre vehicle and gas for 3700km. Youre guide through these 3 countries with 12 years safari experience. All meals accomodation in lodges and camping. You do the driving, you don't just sit in the vehicle and have someone else do the driving.
I don't think it's a bad price if you can do better, let me know.
Thanks again partner!

rustycruiser · 03-23-2002, 12:28 PM

If you pimp your shit on PBB, expect comments, both good and bad. It's the internet, everyone has an opinion, and tends to share it. BTW, your welcome.

Jislaaik!

rustycruiser · 03-24-2002, 09:23 AM

So this is my official apology to Jaco. My friend in Windhoek got back to me, and it seems like the prices I was going on were what he charges the locals, due to the devalued currency. He said that they charge Americans a much higher rate, due to the fact Americans will willingly pay it for an "African Adventure'. He called it the rape factor, I call it what the market will bare. His price was within a couple hundred of Jacos.

[On Soapbox] I am sorry Jaco! [/On Soapbox]

I will leave you with a quote from what I said last time Jaco was pimping his business.

Quote:

Originally posted by rustycruiser
Okavango Swamps in Botswana and Etosha Pans in Namibia are great places to visit. I spent a month there in 1987, and have totally awsome pictures and memories to show for it. We drove up from South Africa in Land Cruisers, via the Karoo and Kalahari. Have fun.

Lance · 03-24-2002, 11:27 PM

Looks like I need to sell a few more red stars!

Bridgestone · 03-25-2002, 12:59 AM

I never been to Africa so what I say don't take it serious. Is Africa kind of dangerous for an American?

Paul Gagnon · 03-25-2002, 01:01 AM

The Africa trip looks pretty cool. Too bad I'm poor. US$2200 = C$3,475

I also checked out your itinerary for the Arctic trip. You really should add an extra day in Dawson City. It is easy to spend half a day in the museum alone. Most of the historic sites are only open during the summer season but I'm they will open the doors for you if you tell them you have a tour group going through.

jaco · 03-25-2002, 07:49 AM

Namibia is one of the safest places in Africa to visit, also for Americans. Great relationship between the 2 embassies, a country almost half the size of Alaska with less than 1.5 milj people. Very safe, very beautifull. I am an ex-Namibian living in Canada now. Almost all my familly still live there. Former German colony with great German beer, 20c US buy you a great beer!
Desert scenes like no where else. Okavango delta and Victoria Falls just as great!
Jaco

03-22-2002, 02:52 PM	#1 (permalink)
jaco Registered User Join Date: Mar 2002 Member # 10485 Location: vancouver Posts: 6	africa in May Hi We are doing a self drive safari in Africa starting from Windhoek, Namibia on May the 10th. We are going through the Namib desert, sossusvlei, swakopmund and Etosha, From the Caprivi we are going into Mahangu and Moremi and the Okavango delta. From there we are going to do the Zambezi river rafting(grade 5 rapids) and end the trip at Victoria falls from the Zambia side. (May 23) We have 2 open seats available to cut down costs. All other accomodation is already worked out. We got the vehicles, we need drivers! All in Land Rover td5 Please contact me for more details. jaco@offroadacademy.com

03-23-2002, 09:41 AM	#3 (permalink)
Old Scout IH/Rover Moderator Join Date: Feb 2000 Member # 17 Location: Aptos,Ca Posts: 13,399	Are Lance and Nigel going to go on Safari?? They better put some 37"s on it if your going to drive! Attached Images __________________ I like beer. On occasion, I will even drink beer to celebrate a major event such as the fall of communism or the fact that the refrigerator is still working." BUY MY BOAT http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/misc-...e-history.html

03-23-2002, 10:21 AM	#4 (permalink)
jaco Registered User Join Date: Mar 2002 Member # 10485 Location: vancouver Posts: 6	africa in May Hi We have arranged the full itinerary. $2200 US will get you the whole thing. All is included in Land Rover, fridge etc. We have 3 vehicles. You do the driving. Also included gas, maintanance, meals, accomodation, entry fees to Game parks. 3700km of safari drive. We planned the trip for May but had some cancellations. Mostly Canadians with 2 guys from the states. Jaco: usa:

03-23-2002, 11:15 AM	#6 (permalink)
Old Scout IH/Rover Moderator Join Date: Feb 2000 Member # 17 Location: Aptos,Ca Posts: 13,399	I don't think that price is high at all for 13 day trip!!!! Have you viewed the video of the trip on hisSITE? Ever been on a two week sea cruise??? looks like Web Daddy won't be the only fat bastard there __________________ I like beer. On occasion, I will even drink beer to celebrate a major event such as the fall of communism or the fact that the refrigerator is still working." BUY MY BOAT http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/misc-...e-history.html Last edited by Old Scout; 03-23-2002 at 11:19 AM.

03-23-2002, 11:37 AM	#8 (permalink)
Old Scout IH/Rover Moderator Join Date: Feb 2000 Member # 17 Location: Aptos,Ca Posts: 13,399	Local knowledge is a very powerful tool, I'm sure I could show a bus load of Japanese tourists San Francisco,Napa,Yosemite for much less than they pay a Japanese tour company. So what's your point? __________________ I like beer. On occasion, I will even drink beer to celebrate a major event such as the fall of communism or the fact that the refrigerator is still working." BUY MY BOAT http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/misc-...e-history.html

03-23-2002, 09:34 AM	#2 (permalink)
Lance Administrator Join Date: Jun 1996 Member # 1 Location: El Dorado Hills, CA Posts: 18,739 Blog Entries: 1	how much $$$?

03-23-2002, 11:03 AM	#5 (permalink)
rustycruiser Registered User Join Date: Dec 2001 Member # 8642 Location: Baltimore. Maryland Posts: 1,063	I hope that price includes the $1500 air ticket from JFK to Windhoek (or Cape Town or Jo'burg). Otherwise, your prices are a "tad" high. Have fun in the Caprivi. Hope the nice little conflict there is finally over, with Jonas Savimbi finnally offed by the MPLA.

03-23-2002, 11:21 AM	#7 (permalink)
rustycruiser Registered User Join Date: Dec 2001 Member # 8642 Location: Baltimore. Maryland Posts: 1,063	Old Scout, Spent more than half my life living in Southern Africa. Been to most of the places he mentioned, and would reccommend the trip to anyone. But, remember that current exchange rate from US dollers to SA Rands is 12 to 1. I could a shitload more down there with R26,000. Just my opinion. Ross

03-23-2002, 11:50 AM	#9 (permalink)
rustycruiser Registered User Join Date: Dec 2001 Member # 8642 Location: Baltimore. Maryland Posts: 1,063	Local knowlege has "nothing" to do with it. I have just emailed a friend of mine to keep me honest. He runs trips out of Windhoek in 75 and 60 series Land Cruisers [heavy sarcasm]not the "ultra-reliable TD5"[/heavy sarcasm]. I asked him to quote me what he would charge an average American tyourist for a similar trip, based on Jaco's descriptions. Once he replies, I will post it, and either eat crow and shut up, or not. Ross

03-23-2002, 12:15 PM	#10 (permalink)
jaco Registered User Join Date: Mar 2002 Member # 10485 Location: vancouver Posts: 6	africa in may Thanks for all the info, your'e a great help. Just make sure it includes 14 days on the ground. Youre vehicle and gas for 3700km. Youre guide through these 3 countries with 12 years safari experience. All meals accomodation in lodges and camping. You do the driving, you don't just sit in the vehicle and have someone else do the driving. I don't think it's a bad price if you can do better, let me know. Thanks again partner!

03-23-2002, 12:28 PM	#11 (permalink)
rustycruiser Registered User Join Date: Dec 2001 Member # 8642 Location: Baltimore. Maryland Posts: 1,063	If you pimp your shit on PBB, expect comments, both good and bad. It's the internet, everyone has an opinion, and tends to share it. BTW, your welcome. Jislaaik! Last edited by rustycruiser; 03-23-2002 at 12:33 PM.

03-24-2002, 11:27 PM	#13 (permalink)
Lance Administrator Join Date: Jun 1996 Member # 1 Location: El Dorado Hills, CA Posts: 18,739 Blog Entries: 1	Looks like I need to sell a few more red stars!

03-25-2002, 12:59 AM	#14 (permalink)
Bridgestone Registered User Join Date: Mar 2002 Member # 10659 Posts: 30	I never been to Africa so what I say don't take it serious. Is Africa kind of dangerous for an American?

03-25-2002, 01:01 AM	#15 (permalink)
Paul Gagnon Poseur SUV Join Date: Apr 2000 Member # 610 Location: Sherwood Park, Alberta eh? Posts: 9,934 Blog Entries: 6	The Africa trip looks pretty cool. Too bad I'm poor. US$2200 = C$3,475 I also checked out your itinerary for the Arctic trip. You really should add an extra day in Dawson City. It is easy to spend half a day in the museum alone. Most of the historic sites are only open during the summer season but I'm they will open the doors for you if you tell them you have a tour group going through. __________________ Paul Gagnon Sherwood Park, Alberta eh? "No Brain, No Pain"

03-25-2002, 07:49 AM	#16 (permalink)
jaco Registered User Join Date: Mar 2002 Member # 10485 Location: vancouver Posts: 6	Namibia Namibia is one of the safest places in Africa to visit, also for Americans. Great relationship between the 2 embassies, a country almost half the size of Alaska with less than 1.5 milj people. Very safe, very beautifull. I am an ex-Namibian living in Canada now. Almost all my familly still live there. Former German colony with great German beer, 20c US buy you a great beer! Desert scenes like no where else. Okavango delta and Victoria Falls just as great! Jaco

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