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Way · 03-29-2002, 08:22 AM

Without my E-brake on, my vehicle rolls around even with the parking brake on??? Is there an adjustment for this?? Anyone else have this happen?

Way

P.S. Headin down to Moab in a few hours. I will take some pictures of rovers if I see some down there. Hope to see Timm Cooper there this weekend and meet him.

JSBriggs · 03-29-2002, 08:59 AM

Remove the cubby box liner to gain access to the Pbrake adjuster. Pull the circlip, adjust the brake, and reinstall the clip. Its that easy. If you dont pull the clip, it is more difficult as you have constant resistance.

-Jeff Briggs

Rover Addiction · 03-29-2002, 10:08 AM

So with the tranny in park, it rolls?

Or tranny in neutral?

So what's not grabbing, tranny or e-brake?

e-brake can be tightened from underneath or check the linkage on the handle under the trim inside. If your tranny isn't going all the way to park, go underneath and disconnect the linkage at the tranny. Move the shift lever inside back and forth and make sure it still has full movement. Also, move the shift arm on the tranny through it's full range of motion and make sure it makes it all the way into park and locks the tranny. I had to adjust the linkage on my rangie to make up for cable stretching over time. There is adjustment on the tranny end.

-John

Way · 03-29-2002, 11:39 AM

The e-brake works great. Park brake does not. I will toy around with it after Moab. I am leaving within the hour so I will ask a few more questions when I return. Thanks for the info!

Way

Rover Addiction · 03-29-2002, 02:08 PM

What is a park brake?

Usually, e-brake and parking brake are used interchangably, both referencing that pull up handle that activates the drum behind your t-case.

If you're referring to putting the tranny in park and that holding the truck, that's a little pawl that fits into a notch on the main shaft and locks the tranny. You don't want to put the tranny into park while the vehicle is moving because the pawl isn't that big and the shock load will break it, or, more likely, your linkage has come out of adjustment and when the shift lever inside says it's in park, it's not quite there in the tranny. That's why I'm saying check your linkage. Simple to do, if I recall right, it's on the driver's side of the tranny on the side and it's a little lever with a cable attached.

Hope that helps!

-John

Way · 04-01-2002, 02:01 PM

Thanks John,

I will look under the vehicle and find the adjustment. I am glad that there is an adjustment. For clarity I was referring to the main shaft the locks the tranny "pawl".

Way

Rover Addiction · 04-02-2002, 08:39 AM

Aaah yes, I know that little pawl well. I worked on a lawsuit once where that broke and the people sued a company for the car rolling away. Turns out, if you stop the car by slamming it into park while moving, things tend to break. Apparently, that's a big surprise to some people.

-John

Rover Addiction · 04-02-2002, 08:41 AM

Oh yeah, and we all know how wonderful that shifter console is in rovers with the stupid plastic cover that never works quite right. That might be impeding the movement of the shifter lever such that it does not go all the way to the park detent.

-John

03-29-2002, 08:22 AM	#1 (permalink)
Way Registered User Join Date: Jan 2002 Member # 9428 Location: Colorado Springs Posts: 1,151	Autobox Parking brake question Without my E-brake on, my vehicle rolls around even with the parking brake on??? Is there an adjustment for this?? Anyone else have this happen? Way P.S. Headin down to Moab in a few hours. I will take some pictures of rovers if I see some down there. Hope to see Timm Cooper there this weekend and meet him.

03-29-2002, 08:59 AM	#2 (permalink)
JSBriggs Registered User Join Date: Feb 2002 Member # 9768 Location: Auburn CA Posts: 1,387	Remove the cubby box liner to gain access to the Pbrake adjuster. Pull the circlip, adjust the brake, and reinstall the clip. Its that easy. If you dont pull the clip, it is more difficult as you have constant resistance. -Jeff Briggs __________________ All it needs is just a little luvin'

03-29-2002, 10:08 AM	#3 (permalink)
Rover Addiction Registered User Join Date: May 2001 Member # 4749 Location: Erie, CO Posts: 975	Clarification??? So with the tranny in park, it rolls? Or tranny in neutral? So what's not grabbing, tranny or e-brake? e-brake can be tightened from underneath or check the linkage on the handle under the trim inside. If your tranny isn't going all the way to park, go underneath and disconnect the linkage at the tranny. Move the shift lever inside back and forth and make sure it still has full movement. Also, move the shift arm on the tranny through it's full range of motion and make sure it makes it all the way into park and locks the tranny. I had to adjust the linkage on my rangie to make up for cable stretching over time. There is adjustment on the tranny end. -John __________________ "All the parts falling off this truck are of the finest british craftsmanship."

03-29-2002, 02:08 PM	#5 (permalink)
Rover Addiction Registered User Join Date: May 2001 Member # 4749 Location: Erie, CO Posts: 975	What is a park brake? Usually, e-brake and parking brake are used interchangably, both referencing that pull up handle that activates the drum behind your t-case. If you're referring to putting the tranny in park and that holding the truck, that's a little pawl that fits into a notch on the main shaft and locks the tranny. You don't want to put the tranny into park while the vehicle is moving because the pawl isn't that big and the shock load will break it, or, more likely, your linkage has come out of adjustment and when the shift lever inside says it's in park, it's not quite there in the tranny. That's why I'm saying check your linkage. Simple to do, if I recall right, it's on the driver's side of the tranny on the side and it's a little lever with a cable attached. Hope that helps! -John __________________ "All the parts falling off this truck are of the finest british craftsmanship."

04-02-2002, 08:39 AM	#7 (permalink)
Rover Addiction Registered User Join Date: May 2001 Member # 4749 Location: Erie, CO Posts: 975	Aaah yes, I know that little pawl well. I worked on a lawsuit once where that broke and the people sued a company for the car rolling away. Turns out, if you stop the car by slamming it into park while moving, things tend to break. Apparently, that's a big surprise to some people. -John __________________ "All the parts falling off this truck are of the finest british craftsmanship."

03-29-2002, 11:39 AM	#4 (permalink)
Way Registered User Join Date: Jan 2002 Member # 9428 Location: Colorado Springs Posts: 1,151	The e-brake works great. Park brake does not. I will toy around with it after Moab. I am leaving within the hour so I will ask a few more questions when I return. Thanks for the info! Way

04-01-2002, 02:01 PM	#6 (permalink)
Way Registered User Join Date: Jan 2002 Member # 9428 Location: Colorado Springs Posts: 1,151	Thanks John, I will look under the vehicle and find the adjustment. I am glad that there is an adjustment. For clarity I was referring to the main shaft the locks the tranny "pawl". Way

04-02-2002, 08:41 AM	#8 (permalink)
Rover Addiction Registered User Join Date: May 2001 Member # 4749 Location: Erie, CO Posts: 975	Oh yeah, and we all know how wonderful that shifter console is in rovers with the stupid plastic cover that never works quite right. That might be impeding the movement of the shifter lever such that it does not go all the way to the park detent. -John __________________ "All the parts falling off this truck are of the finest british craftsmanship."

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