Lost keys for RRC among other things - Pirate4x4.Com : 4x4 and Off-Road Forum

Wolfgang vonRangie · 01-28-2006, 07:47 PM

Just picked up a rust free 89 Classic with light damage to front. I have the title and had it towed home but the girl (seller) can't find the keys. Truck is unlocked but steering is locked so it sits in the crappy part of my drive until I figure this out.

EDIT: worthless info deleted

lwg · 01-28-2006, 08:59 PM

Alrighty then... Thanks for the update!

Edit: Read here: /forum/land-rover/342141-important-land-rover-tech-forum-check.html

Wolfgang vonRangie · 01-28-2006, 10:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lwg

Alrighty then... Thanks for the update!

Edit: Read here: http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?t=342141

Thanks for reply. You and I "fake E met" in 2000 when I bought my first LR. You were helpful when I asked alot of dumb questions on RN BBB. -Not to mention championing my thoughts of an OME lift. (ended up with med OME)

Assuming I could dismantle the column, cut the wires after the plug for the existing ignition switch, jump the wires... how to get the steering unlocked?

p.s., low post count due to lack of extreme tech knowledge.

SonarRover · 01-28-2006, 11:24 PM

The steering/ignition lock housing is held in place by a couple of shear bolts. After removing the steering column cover it becomes obvious. Why not just buy a new lock/key set and shear pin/bolts and not go the "hot-wired and busted lock" method?

64rovr · 01-29-2006, 06:43 AM

You dont need to cut any wires to start a RRC so long as you have tools. You can remove the ignition switch from the back of the lock tumbler and start it with a screw driver. But, again, this does not get the steering unlocked. What I would do is call a Land Rover dealer and give them the VIN number and see if they can make a key for you. This is what I did when I had the exact same problem. It helps a lot if the dealer has serviced the truck before, so if you can find out where the truck was purchased or serviced it should be fairly straightforward.

PTSchram · 01-29-2006, 07:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 64rovr

What I would do is call a Land Rover dealer and give them the VIN number and see if they can make a key for you. This is what I did when I had the exact same problem. It helps a lot if the dealer has serviced the truck before, so if you can find out where the truck was purchased or serviced it should be fairly straightforward.

Be prepared to be asked to fax proof of ownership in the form of copies of driver's license and registration/title/application for title.

In spite of my having a good relationship with my nearest dealer, they still won't cut keys for me without this info. I can get lockset barcodes easier than keys.

Wolfgang vonRangie · 01-29-2006, 10:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SonarRover

The steering/ignition lock housing is held in place by a couple of shear bolts. After removing the steering column cover it becomes obvious. Why not just buy a new lock/key set and shear pin/bolts and not go the "hot-wired and busted lock" method?

Thanks for the ideas, I'm not too worried about the lock / key set as this truck may be parted out or fixed eventually. PO had an accident and I'm not sure of the extent of the damage.
Whatever she hit shattered the water pump, obviously with the fan blade being bound, but the radiator shows very minor damage?! (fan shroud good too)

I have the title, I'll try calling the dealer. If no luck I'll go with the screwdriver method.

afirover · 01-30-2006, 04:52 AM

PUSH BUTTON START

works well no keys to worry about

Wolfgang vonRangie · 01-30-2006, 01:25 PM

Update,
Previous, previous owner was an emplyee of local LR dealership (heard he took great care of truck) and they gave me the keycode info over the phone. Parts counter manager knows me. Their key cutting machine is broken but another locksmith will cut one for me.

Thanks for the help.

64rovr · 01-30-2006, 02:39 PM

See, contrary to popular belief the dealer CAN be your friend, even with these old pigs.

64rovr · 01-30-2006, 02:41 PM

See, contrary to popular belief the dealer CAN be your friend, even with these old pigs.

PTSchram · 01-31-2006, 08:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 64rovr

See, contrary to popular belief the dealer CAN be your friend, even with these old pigs.

The Portland, OR dealership is in the process of opening a service facility only for vehicles made prior to '99! They had parts in stock for the '93 I was there working on and even interviewed me for a service advisor's position in their "Classic" facility!

PT

64rovr · 01-31-2006, 09:53 AM

Service advisors get the shaft, I wouldnt care for their job. Parts managers don't really seem to do much from my experience, and the never have to deal with walk-in customers. Thats what I'd pick

01-28-2006, 07:47 PM	#1 (permalink)
Wolfgang vonRangie Registered User Join Date: Feb 2002 Member # 10259 Location: Reno NV Posts: 52	Lost keys for RRC among other things Just picked up a rust free 89 Classic with light damage to front. I have the title and had it towed home but the girl (seller) can't find the keys. Truck is unlocked but steering is locked so it sits in the crappy part of my drive until I figure this out. EDIT: worthless info deleted __________________ Every man's hell is the same. It's the road that takes them there that varies. -JM Last edited by Wolfgang vonRangie; 01-28-2006 at 10:32 PM.

01-28-2006, 08:59 PM	#2 (permalink)
lwg Registered User Join Date: May 2002 Member # 12044 Location: Portland, OR Posts: 2,237	Alrighty then... Thanks for the update! Edit: Read here: /forum/land-rover/342141-important-land-rover-tech-forum-check.html __________________ Larry [url]www.columbiaoverland.com[/url] Last edited by lwg; 01-28-2006 at 09:05 PM.

01-28-2006, 11:24 PM	#4 (permalink)
SonarRover Registered User Join Date: Jan 2003 Member # 16284 Location: Riverside, CA Posts: 40	The steering/ignition lock housing is held in place by a couple of shear bolts. After removing the steering column cover it becomes obvious. Why not just buy a new lock/key set and shear pin/bolts and not go the "hot-wired and busted lock" method? __________________ GregH

01-30-2006, 04:52 AM	#8 (permalink)
afirover Registered User Join Date: Nov 2004 Member # 38070 Location: indianapolis Posts: 371	PUSH BUTTON START works well no keys to worry about __________________ [COLOR=Gray]AFIROVER[/COLOR] [COLOR=DarkOliveGreen]"Well done is better than well said ." Ben Franklin [/COLOR]

01-30-2006, 01:25 PM	#9 (permalink)
Wolfgang vonRangie Registered User Join Date: Feb 2002 Member # 10259 Location: Reno NV Posts: 52	Update, Previous, previous owner was an emplyee of local LR dealership (heard he took great care of truck) and they gave me the keycode info over the phone. Parts counter manager knows me. Their key cutting machine is broken but another locksmith will cut one for me. Thanks for the help. __________________ Every man's hell is the same. It's the road that takes them there that varies. -JM

01-29-2006, 06:43 AM	#5 (permalink)
64rovr Registered User Join Date: Sep 2000 Member # 1745 Location: MA Posts: 2,118	You dont need to cut any wires to start a RRC so long as you have tools. You can remove the ignition switch from the back of the lock tumbler and start it with a screw driver. But, again, this does not get the steering unlocked. What I would do is call a Land Rover dealer and give them the VIN number and see if they can make a key for you. This is what I did when I had the exact same problem. It helps a lot if the dealer has serviced the truck before, so if you can find out where the truck was purchased or serviced it should be fairly straightforward.

01-30-2006, 02:39 PM	#10 (permalink)
64rovr Registered User Join Date: Sep 2000 Member # 1745 Location: MA Posts: 2,118	See, contrary to popular belief the dealer CAN be your friend, even with these old pigs.

01-30-2006, 02:41 PM	#11 (permalink)
64rovr Registered User Join Date: Sep 2000 Member # 1745 Location: MA Posts: 2,118	See, contrary to popular belief the dealer CAN be your friend, even with these old pigs.

01-31-2006, 09:53 AM	#13 (permalink)
64rovr Registered User Join Date: Sep 2000 Member # 1745 Location: MA Posts: 2,118	Service advisors get the shaft, I wouldnt care for their job. Parts managers don't really seem to do much from my experience, and the never have to deal with walk-in customers. Thats what I'd pick

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