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RedRhinoProducts · 02-26-2006, 08:25 PM

Hey guys,

Just wanted to give an update. We took Big-ass out this weekend for an offical test run and I do mean run. We headed down to Ocala forest here in Florida so we could accomplish two things mainly. One was to test the different sand anchors that companies sent us [Pull-Pal worked the best BTW.] and two to see how well the truck handled at high speed over sand.

I was a little concerned at first because the suspension seemed extremely loose going 10-15MPH over woops and bumps on the powerline trails. After a while we came to an opening on the power lines that consisted of a big pit that had all been torn up and rutted every which way. [Probably 100 yards across and 30' deep in the center] Let me just say that it's an interesting site watching a Disco fly by at 60MPH on an extremely bumpy, rutted, rough sand trail. ; ) It was a bit like that Hummer commercial when the body is staying pefectly still and then they pan down to the running gear and it's flopping all about.

The suspension on Big-ass REALLY comes alive at higher speeds. The valving on the shocks and the anti-rok bar in the rear makes all the difference. I was littlerally doing 55-60MPH over woops and ruts that went every angle and were probably as deep as 22" in some spots and my teeth weren't even chattering. The response from side to side was amazing as well as the truck felt much tighter. I would be more confident to take a sharp turn on the sand at 50MPH vs. 20MPH if that makes sense. To be honest the ride was rougher on the pavement.

Hopefully the over engineering will pay off, it sure feels like it at this point.

We also did some big sand climbs and the 1.6 box w/ 30% reduction really walks when you mash the skinny pedal in low range. We messed around with locked, open, etc...and we really couldn't see a need as the truck screemed up in open. Only problem we ran into was the brake lines were getting pinched under full compression and we're addressing that this week.

After Ocala we headed back to Jacksonville to some really nice mud/water and fawk did we get Big-ass stuck!

I was rocking back and forth in a huge hole fully locked and couldn't get anywhere. The water, quickly rising was coming in the cab as it was 4" below window height. Hah! Time to test out the bilge pumps. They worked awesome and kept the floor boards dry. We beat the hell out of the front and rear winches repeatedly getting stuck trying to heat them up. No problems there and all the electrics worked like a champ.

As tall as Big-ass is we found a nice long hard

bottom water trail that was steady breaking the hood line with water up to the windshield. She didn't even sputter!

We had a good weekend and found a few small things to address this week but I've got to say she impressed me for sure!

bentaluminum · 02-26-2006, 10:59 PM

Post some pics!!!!

PTSchram · 02-27-2006, 04:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bentaluminum

Post some pics!!!!

Yeah, what he said

ISUZUROVER · 02-27-2006, 05:39 AM

Good to hear the shakedown went well.

Are the tow points compliant yet?

Have you timed how fast your winch bitch can run up a cliff in 115° heat carrying the sand anchor?

SeaRover · 02-27-2006, 06:19 AM

I think jason is the winch bitch

Good luck to you guys. Normalcy, sleep, and work must be a bit difficult right now with all the anticipation.

LRover · 02-27-2006, 06:59 AM

Glad it's all coming together and the truck is working well. I guess I'm missing something...did you rework your transferbox? I thought the 1.6 reduction was only in high range and that low range was the same as the 1.22 t'boxes.

ProsQtor · 02-27-2006, 09:06 AM

Fuck pics -- I want VIDEO of that sand run!

EDIT: Sounds sweet, wish I could see it, etc., etc., etc.

RedRhinoProducts · 02-27-2006, 01:28 PM

Hey all,

I will post some pics later this week. Still trying to finish shit on the rig. Don't get me wrong, you guys are important but not that important.

Recovery points are good after much welding...and yes, I'm the winch bitch. I'm not too worried though. I run 5 miles a day you know being Metro and all.

So I think I stand a much better chance than some of those overweight old gents.

I ran up and down the hill with the PullPal on my left shoulder and the weight didn't bother but the knocking of the metal on my shoulder. Need to make a pad or something.

madcowdungbeetle · 02-27-2006, 01:39 PM

If you ain't posting pics of the truck, post some pics of the wife!

RedRhinoProducts · 02-27-2006, 01:44 PM

LOOK
DOWN
AND
TO THE
LEFT.
<-

That's all your getting man.

RedRhinoProducts · 02-28-2006, 10:28 AM

Here are some pics of the weekend. None of the mud as it was durk and I was drank.

The wheeling was less than "difficult" but we got to the test the elements that needed so it was definately a worth while trip.

It was a hoot actually, I took my 5 year old daughter and my mother. They loved it!

DiscoDino · 02-28-2006, 11:58 AM

SWEET is an understatement!

Top truck! tires "look" great - happy with your choice?

Buckon37s · 02-28-2006, 12:31 PM

So what is the final weight of that thing?

PTSchram · 02-28-2006, 12:40 PM

Didja get your stickers???

PT

RedRhinoProducts · 02-28-2006, 12:58 PM

Lrover, We used the 1.6 mil box and did the MDE 30% reduction for low. It's cool to watch 36" SX's smoke on the pavement...

PT, Yes got em. One is going on the underbelly skidplate and the one inside the glove box.

Dino, thanks. All in all I think it's going to hold up well. It'll be damn fun trying! Tires did well at 8PSI in the sand. I think we could go lower but I need to experiment more. We want them right on the cusp of breaking off you know...

brooksy1 · 02-28-2006, 01:31 PM

Nice truck mate !!
I hope to make it out to the OBC & say hello.

brooksy

brooksy1 · 02-28-2006, 01:33 PM

Do you have any pics of the rear wheel carrier that I could have a look at ??

brooksy

02-26-2006, 08:25 PM	#1 (permalink)
RedRhinoProducts Registered User Join Date: Nov 2004 Member # 38577 Location: Which way is 66° 33′ 39″ N sir? Posts: 401	Big-ass Update, NO TECH..well sorta Hey guys, Just wanted to give an update. We took Big-ass out this weekend for an offical test run and I do mean run. We headed down to Ocala forest here in Florida so we could accomplish two things mainly. One was to test the different sand anchors that companies sent us [Pull-Pal worked the best BTW.] and two to see how well the truck handled at high speed over sand. I was a little concerned at first because the suspension seemed extremely loose going 10-15MPH over woops and bumps on the powerline trails. After a while we came to an opening on the power lines that consisted of a big pit that had all been torn up and rutted every which way. [Probably 100 yards across and 30' deep in the center] Let me just say that it's an interesting site watching a Disco fly by at 60MPH on an extremely bumpy, rutted, rough sand trail. ; ) It was a bit like that Hummer commercial when the body is staying pefectly still and then they pan down to the running gear and it's flopping all about. The suspension on Big-ass REALLY comes alive at higher speeds. The valving on the shocks and the anti-rok bar in the rear makes all the difference. I was littlerally doing 55-60MPH over woops and ruts that went every angle and were probably as deep as 22" in some spots and my teeth weren't even chattering. The response from side to side was amazing as well as the truck felt much tighter. I would be more confident to take a sharp turn on the sand at 50MPH vs. 20MPH if that makes sense. To be honest the ride was rougher on the pavement. Hopefully the over engineering will pay off, it sure feels like it at this point. We also did some big sand climbs and the 1.6 box w/ 30% reduction really walks when you mash the skinny pedal in low range. We messed around with locked, open, etc...and we really couldn't see a need as the truck screemed up in open. Only problem we ran into was the brake lines were getting pinched under full compression and we're addressing that this week. After Ocala we headed back to Jacksonville to some really nice mud/water and fawk did we get Big-ass stuck! I was rocking back and forth in a huge hole fully locked and couldn't get anywhere. The water, quickly rising was coming in the cab as it was 4" below window height. Hah! Time to test out the bilge pumps. They worked awesome and kept the floor boards dry. We beat the hell out of the front and rear winches repeatedly getting stuck trying to heat them up. No problems there and all the electrics worked like a champ. As tall as Big-ass is we found a nice long hard bottom water trail that was steady breaking the hood line with water up to the windshield. She didn't even sputter! We had a good weekend and found a few small things to address this week but I've got to say she impressed me for sure! __________________ . .. ... "We had seen God in His splendors, heard the text that Nature renders. We had reached the naked soul of man." - E.S.

02-27-2006, 05:39 AM	#4 (permalink)
ISUZUROVER Registered User Join Date: Feb 2003 Member # 17316 Location: WA Posts: 1,279	Good to hear the shakedown went well. Are the tow points compliant yet? Have you timed how fast your winch bitch can run up a cliff in 115° heat carrying the sand anchor? __________________ Cheers, Ben.

02-27-2006, 06:19 AM	#5 (permalink)
SeaRover Registered User Join Date: Feb 2002 Member # 9817 Location: Berserkeley, CA Posts: 1,291	I think jason is the winch bitch Good luck to you guys. Normalcy, sleep, and work must be a bit difficult right now with all the anticipation. __________________ '97 Discovery

02-27-2006, 09:06 AM	#7 (permalink)
ProsQtor Registered User Join Date: Aug 2003 Member # 22182 Location: Appleton, WI Posts: 414	Fuck pics -- I want VIDEO of that sand run! EDIT: Sounds sweet, wish I could see it, etc., etc., etc. __________________ Quemadmoeum gladis nemeinum occidit, occidentis telum est Last edited by ProsQtor; 02-27-2006 at 09:06 AM.

02-27-2006, 01:28 PM	#8 (permalink)
RedRhinoProducts Registered User Join Date: Nov 2004 Member # 38577 Location: Which way is 66° 33′ 39″ N sir? Posts: 401	Hey all, I will post some pics later this week. Still trying to finish shit on the rig. Don't get me wrong, you guys are important but not that important. Recovery points are good after much welding...and yes, I'm the winch bitch. I'm not too worried though. I run 5 miles a day you know being Metro and all. So I think I stand a much better chance than some of those overweight old gents. I ran up and down the hill with the PullPal on my left shoulder and the weight didn't bother but the knocking of the metal on my shoulder. Need to make a pad or something. __________________ . .. ... "We had seen God in His splendors, heard the text that Nature renders. We had reached the naked soul of man." - E.S.

02-26-2006, 10:59 PM	#2 (permalink)
bentaluminum Banned Join Date: Mar 2005 Member # 44296 Location: East Coast Posts: 45	Post some pics!!!!

02-27-2006, 06:59 AM	#6 (permalink)
LRover Registered User Join Date: Aug 2002 Member # 13149 Location: Virginia, USA Posts: 143	Glad it's all coming together and the truck is working well. I guess I'm missing something...did you rework your transferbox? I thought the 1.6 reduction was only in high range and that low range was the same as the 1.22 t'boxes.

02-27-2006, 01:39 PM	#9 (permalink)
madcowdungbeetle Registered User Join Date: Jan 2002 Member # 9065 Location: Charlotte, NC Posts: 889	If you ain't posting pics of the truck, post some pics of the wife!

02-27-2006, 01:44 PM	#10 (permalink)
RedRhinoProducts Registered User Join Date: Nov 2004 Member # 38577 Location: Which way is 66° 33′ 39″ N sir? Posts: 401	LOOK DOWN AND TO THE LEFT. <- That's all your getting man. __________________ . .. ... "We had seen God in His splendors, heard the text that Nature renders. We had reached the naked soul of man." - E.S. Last edited by RedRhinoProducts; 02-27-2006 at 01:48 PM.

02-28-2006, 10:28 AM	#11 (permalink)
RedRhinoProducts Registered User Join Date: Nov 2004 Member # 38577 Location: Which way is 66° 33′ 39″ N sir? Posts: 401	Some photos... Here are some pics of the weekend. None of the mud as it was durk and I was drank. The wheeling was less than "difficult" but we got to the test the elements that needed so it was definately a worth while trip. It was a hoot actually, I took my 5 year old daughter and my mother. They loved it! __________________ . .. ... "We had seen God in His splendors, heard the text that Nature renders. We had reached the naked soul of man." - E.S.

02-28-2006, 11:58 AM	#12 (permalink)
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02-28-2006, 12:31 PM	#13 (permalink)
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02-28-2006, 12:40 PM	#14 (permalink)
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02-28-2006, 12:58 PM	#15 (permalink)
RedRhinoProducts Registered User Join Date: Nov 2004 Member # 38577 Location: Which way is 66° 33′ 39″ N sir? Posts: 401	Lrover, We used the 1.6 mil box and did the MDE 30% reduction for low. It's cool to watch 36" SX's smoke on the pavement... PT, Yes got em. One is going on the underbelly skidplate and the one inside the glove box. Dino, thanks. All in all I think it's going to hold up well. It'll be damn fun trying! Tires did well at 8PSI in the sand. I think we could go lower but I need to experiment more. We want them right on the cusp of breaking off you know... __________________ . .. ... "We had seen God in His splendors, heard the text that Nature renders. We had reached the naked soul of man." - E.S.

02-28-2006, 01:31 PM	#16 (permalink)
brooksy1 Registered User Join Date: Dec 2005 Member # 63280 Location: Queensland,Australia. Posts: 531	Nice truck mate !! I hope to make it out to the OBC & say hello. brooksy __________________ C44F-Custom 4x4 Fabrications Australia project - "STRETCH" LS1 FJ40 105"wb

02-28-2006, 01:33 PM	#17 (permalink)
brooksy1 Registered User Join Date: Dec 2005 Member # 63280 Location: Queensland,Australia. Posts: 531	Do you have any pics of the rear wheel carrier that I could have a look at ?? brooksy __________________ C44F-Custom 4x4 Fabrications Australia project - "STRETCH" LS1 FJ40 105"wb

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