range rover pedal box question??????

[deepseaoutlaw]

ok rover gurus heres the question. is the pedal box in a 1988 range rover the same as the one in say a 95 disco? meaning can i just bolt in a manual box to the range rover? i have heard its just a bolt in swap but i want to make sure befor i start gathering the parts to make the rrc a manual. thanx

[Bentcrank]

Nope! The '88RR pedal assembly is different then the Disco stuff. Just get a pedal box out of a manual rover so you don't have to hassle with finding all the small bits to make the clutch work. Call Will @ roverguy or Robert @ Roverland. They should have what you need and save yourself the wasted time of converting an auto one.

[deepseaoutlaw]

that was my plan to just switch boxes. im a little new here do you have the contact info for the guys you mentioned?

[Bentcrank]

Will's # 434-251-9331/Robert's # 813-269-2220. Good luck!

[PTSchram]

Good luck indeed. The chances of finding a LHD RRC manual trans pedal box is astronomical.

How I did it:


Many of the bolts on the left side and lower edge won't line up so you'll have more fab work to do. If you have the original RRC pedal box you can trim bits off of it to use for the bolt holes that don't line up and weld them to the modified pedal box.

See Buck, I can do fab work

[deepseaoutlaw]

so a 95 disco manual pedal box wont just bolt up to the rrc?

[PTSchram]

Originally Posted by deepseaoutlaw

so a 95 disco manual pedal box wont just bolt up to the rrc?

Oh geez, here we go again.

NO, it will not. The Disco steering column goes through the bottom of the pedal box, it does not on the RRC.

The bolt pattern is not the same.

The shaft the clutch pedal rides on will interfere with the braces inside the RRC body-but, it's not a big deal to trim those braces for clearance.

Given the option to do it all over again, I'd never have let the client convince me to do the conversion.

You're really gonna be further ahead with a used autobox.

[deepseaoutlaw]

i guess that was the reply i was looking for. thanks. is there any one out there that builds or rebuilds the zf trans in a heavier duty version? or an uprated torque converter?

[PTSchram]

Originally Posted by deepseaoutlaw

i guess that was the reply i was looking for. thanks. is there any one out there that builds or rebuilds the zf trans in a heavier duty version? or an uprated torque converter?

If not abused, the stock clutches/friction material are fine, especially for your 3.5.

When we tore apart the trans that had been in my DI for ~210K miles, the part numbers were still readable on the clutches.

Some say the 4HP 24 clutches are better, but I'm not convinced. There are a few companies making friction parts for them, I used Raybestos when mine was rebuilt-mainly because my wife works for the parent company

[R_Lefebvre]

Have a close look at your pedal box.

When I converted my truck to manual, I discovered the auto pedal box could easily accept a clutch pedal. The shaft, brackets, etc were all there. All I did was take some parts off a D1 manual pedal box (pedal, bushings, springs) and install them on my D2 auto box. All I had to do was drill holes for the clutch master cylinder mounting. I didn't even take the pedal box out of the truck. It was a bit of a chore working in close confines, but it was way easier than removing the pedal box on a D2.

Have a close look up under there. Knowing Land Rover, I bet yours is the same way.

Litterally, the only difference between the two on the Discovery, is when they do a run of auto pedal boxes, they remove the dies to punch MC holes from the plate, and don't assemble the clutch pedal parts. The shaft, brackets, weldments are all the same.

[Bentcrank]

Who the fuk is talk'n 'bout a D2???

[R_Lefebvre]

I am.

Land Rover tends to do some things the same way, over and over, for a long time. Evidence being I have a D1 clutch pedal hanging on a D2 auto pedal box that required ZERO fab work other than drilling a few holes.

Therefore, it's conceivable to anybody with an open mind, that the RRC auto pedal box can accept a clutch pedal in much the same way. It's worth it grab a flashlight and go have a look. That's how I figured it out, when nobody else had any idea.

It was WAY easier than trying to find a LHD manual pedal box.

[Junkyddog11]

It might have worked that way in your DII but it doesn't in a RRC. You need a pre 94 Disco or RR LHD box. Not too hard to find. Sold my last one to Revor. .......I do have one more but it comes with the whole car.

[PTSchram]

Originally Posted by Junkyddog11

It might have worked that way in your DII but it doesn't in a RRC. You need a pre 94 Disco or RR LHD box. Not too hard to find. Sold my last one to Revor. .......I do have one more but it comes with the whole car.

I had a Hell of a time finding one, hence my modifying the RHD Disco pedal box.