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Tombstone versus the United States (Water...again)
by Jonathan DuHamel
Apr. 12, 2012, under Politics, water http://tucsoncitizen.com/wryheat/201...united-states/ Quote:
Cool little town filled with awesome Americans
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Super Willie
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Bump for Bebe.... Surprised that no one had even commented on this.
The USFS and BLM need to be taken back a few notches by the towns, cities, counties and their residents that are taking it in the shorts with the abuse of power that is being wielded against them. Thanks for posting this up Bebe.
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Couldn't the Governor have the National Gaurd, escort the necessary consruction crews into the Wilderness Area, in a state of emergency? |
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Jurisdiction is a funny thing. Because, regardless of which politician or governmental organizations support you, not many have the ability to assist.
I'm thinking to keep it local, the Sheriff could say he will not enforce. If I were he, I would just go up there and do it, get the ticket and then be the town hero. Seriously we have an imbalance when existing water systems cannot be repaired because of a measly piece of paper - which Congress probably pushed through thinking it would be for the good of the people. That's what happens when laws are passed absolutely, no caveats, no what ifs considered. This failure is owned by local politicians who either volunteered the area or supported the designation. How does one correct it? How does one refine existing laws to accommodate previously unconsidered or unrealized adverse effects on the Human condition? And who or whom - in the Forest Service is making the conscious decision to destroy a HUMAN community by depriving them of one of thee most basic human needs?? Just who do these "people" think they are? Isn't depriving a human of water criminal? Where does the buck stop with this decision - how do we hold them responsible?
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I agree with you Bebe, the city needs to go do the work and if the USFS or any other Feds show up, the sheriff needs to threaten to arrest them (and do so if needed) for whatever charges could be brought against them. Not an armchair lawyer, so don't know what charges could be used, but there has to be something.
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Something is backward when unelected federal alphabet soup departments have more power in states than the states themselves.
I wonder what George Washington would have thought about unelected, omnipotent government departments like the EPA, IRS, FBI, CIA, ATF, DHS, NSA, TSA, etc etc.
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is it possible that because of being sued so many times for dumb thing by certain groups, which have now tied the hands somewhat of agency's like the FS and BLM, that its part of the reason things like this happen?
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heres another link:
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![]() National Park Week, April 21-29, would be an awesome opportunity too! http://www.nps.gov/npweek/ Anyone have anything for the national media to cover? Maybe it's time to take the gloves off? The dog that wins the fight is the dog you feed the most. Last edited by Anonymous1; 04-16-2012 at 02:53 PM. |
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Obama Administration vs. Tombstone
More on Tombstone Az...
http://frontpagemag.com/2012/05/01/o...B+FrontPage%29 Quote:
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It would be cool to see a Jarbidge-style protest supported at the STATE level, protected by STATE cops, perhaps executed by STATE Department of Transportation workers. Maybe the governor could even mobilize the National Guard? USFS contractors, staff, and LEO wouldn't stand a chance...
Tombstone has plenty of legend -- this would be an EXCELLENT addition to the story, IMHO. Randii |
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Wilderness schmilderness....apparently the pipes were there before the wilderness, so it must have been designated in one of those Omnibus deals.
That's why the "no trace of Man" portion of the Wilderness Characteristics guideline should be a little more closely considered...hmm?
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Rare Spotted Owl Threatens 'The Town Too Tough to Die'
http://www.newsmax.com/US/Tombstone-...6/09/id/441775
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The county Sheriff needs to man up and escort the heavy equipment to the repair site with a few of his deputies and if any feds show up give them the choice to go away quietly or go for a ride in the back of the paddy wagon.
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