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*Attempt to steal CA OHV Grant Funds*
Please act now: Senators Joe Simitian and Noreen Evans are pushing a bill that will take the entire $21 million from the OHV Grant Fund, and give it to State Parks! We must act now – call, fax and write these State Senators, and your own Senator to tell them what a devastating effect this will have on roads, trails, parks around the state, not to mention law enforcement and restoration projects. Please distribute this to all your networks and club members, we have to get the word out ASAP. Find you State Senator: http://192.234.213.69/smapsearch/framepage.asp
As soon as I have the bill number and the committee info I will post it, in the meantime, time is of the essence. Most importantly, constituents of Senators Simitian and Evans need to contact their offices now! Thanks Amy
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FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
March 8, 2012 For More Information, Contact: Lisa Gardiner (916) 651-4011 lisa.gardiner@sen.ca.gov SENATORS SIMITIAN AND EVANS UNVEIL PLAN TO KEEP STATE PARKS OPEN SACRAMENTO – Today, State Senator Joe Simitian (D-Palo Alto) and State Senator Noreen Evans (D-Santa Rosa) unveiled a budget proposal to keep open up to 50 state parks slated for closure this year, and reverse the closure of still more in 2013, while providing a stable and long-term funding solution. As many as 70 state parks had been slated for closure beginning July 1, 2012. The essence of the ‘Sustainable Parks Proposal’ is: • Growing the non-profit support and engagement spearheaded by the California State Parks Foundation and their community partners; • Finding “new ways of working” in the parks, including allowing parks to become more entrepreneurial and allowing more personnel flexibility; • Accessing additional, existing funding sources that may be appropriately used for park purposes, including using up to $10 million of existing funds collected from vehicle registration fees for park road and trail maintenance and other uses. The ‘Sustainable Parks Proposal’ will be up in Senate Budget Subcommittee #2 on Resources, Environmental Protection, Energy and Transportation, which is chaired by Simitian, on Wednesday at 2:30 in room 4203 in the State Capitol. “It’s unacceptable to imagine putting up the ‘closed’ sign on these precious public resources,” said Simitian. “It’s also penny-wise and pound foolish. Closed parks are easy prey for crime, fire and vandalism. If we work together creatively to keep these parks open, we can prevent the kind of problems that will end up costing California far more in the long run.” “This plan is worthy of the legacy that has been left in our trust,” said Evans. “I am thankful for Senator Simitian’s dedication to a solution-oriented and sustainable long term funding plan to keep parks open and thriving. Utilizing existing funds, providing flexibility and giving needed assistance to our nonprofit partners will keep parks in the public trust for generations to come. I believe this is a solid proposal that will set the financial foundation for saving our parks. In the short term, we will be able to keep most of our parks open this year, and in the long run, it will help make our park system stronger and more creative. “ Simitian noted as well that state parks “are an extraordinary economic asset for California. They pump tourism and hospitality dollars into the economy, and create jobs in the process.” The proposal also would give Californians voluntary opportunities to support the parks. Under the proposal, Californians could purchase a specialty parks license plate for a fee and give a voluntary donation at the time of their vehicle renewal. In addition, the proposal would allow the Department of Parks and Recreation to access $10 million annually in long-term loans to fix the water and septic system problems that plague many aging park facilities. In May of last year, it was estimated that 70 parks would close due to budget cuts. Since then, nonprofit organizations and the public, as well as local and federal agencies, have stepped up efforts to find ways to fund the parks, and the number of parks slated to shut dropped to 54 last month. To help encourage these efforts, the proposal would also include extending liability coverage to local and nonprofit agencies that work in partnership to manage the parks. “The effort that the California Parks Foundation and other nonprofit organizations have put forward to keep parks open has been nothing short of heroic,” said Simitian. “Their hard work and innovation are the good news in these tough budget times. We want to continue to encourage these creative partnerships. The state parks belong to all of us, and we’re all going to have to work together to keep them going.” A full copy of the eight-point ‘Sustainable Parks Proposal,’ may be found at http://www.senatorsimitian.com
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Here is a link to the proposal:
http://www.senatorsimitian.com/pdfs/...20Proposal.pdf Quote:
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Join Date: Sep 2002
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Legislators have plan to keep state parks open - Half Moon Bay Review : News
Legislators have plan to keep state parks open By Clay Lambert [ clay@hmbreview.com ] | Posted: Tuesday, May 8, 2012 11:36 am A pair of state senators plans to introduce “a suite of solutions” on Wednesday designed to keep open 50 of the 70 California State Parks currently slated for closure on July 1. Two local parks – Gray Whale Cove State Beach and Portola Redwoods State Park – are on the list of parks expected to close. Sens. Joe Simitian and Noreen Evans say that closing the parks will only cost Californians money and have a devastating impact on a priceless legacy. “State Parks people say they are short about $22 million,” Simitian said in a conference call with reporters on Tuesday. “You say to yourself, really? Are we going to close 50 state parks over what amounts to 60 cents for each Californian?” The legislators say they have found $41 million that could be diverted to state parks from a patchwork of existing funds. The money would add to help being provided from private organizations. That includes $10 million in long-term loans from the state’s Clean Water Revolving Loan Fund, $10 million from a motor vehicle fund and $21 million in local assistance funding that is currently planned for use elsewhere. Evans and Simitian will present the proposal to a Senate budget subcommittee on Wednesday afternoon. Simitian said he and Evans have been working since March in an effort to “wrestle this issue to the ground.” The planned closure of the parks has been controversial from the outset. Critics say that there is no way to close open space and that closed parks will still be magnets for visitors and even criminal activity. In addition, the parks are popular draws for tourists in areas like the Coastside that depend on tourist dollars. “In a recessionary economy, you want to hold on to your recreational opportunities,” Simitian said. “If ever there is a time you want to keep these parks open it is a time when people are struggling to make ends meet.” The legislators said that attendance at California State Parks has been relatively flat. They noted that recent increases in parks fees have already hit visitors in the pocketbook and that closing parks would be devastating.
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So it's 10 million coming in from the Gas Taxes?
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To the best of my knowledge its coming from the OHMVR acquisitions reserve. I am by no means the expert on the subject. But that's my understanding. I would have to find my notes on exact numbers but from memory, the OHMVR division is the only division that runs in the black.
Its an easy target. Some day when its too late government will learn that you can't keep taking from producers and giving to takers.
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No, it's the $21 million that is stated in the article as coming from "other sources". It's the entire grants budget.
Everything that was in the OHV reserves has been taken, and the division is operating at a deficit so far this year. This is exactly what we were afraid might happen, that's why we started the investigation into a lawsuit. Besides being heard in the senate tomorrow afternoon, it will also be heard in the assembly tomorrow morning: Assembly Budget Subcommittee No. 3 Resources and Transportation Senator Simitian is running for Supervisor of Santa Clara County, but this bill will virtually shut down Metcalf OHV Park, which operates largely on OHV grants. Amy 9:00 AM State Capitol Room 447
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Thanks for clarity.like I said I am not an expert on it.
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Join Date: Apr 2001
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Solution: "a suite of changes, promote cultural shift", get rid of them all. Fight Back Against Big Green May is a very busy month for the OHV community as we attend events, camp with the family, or ride with our friends. As the election cycle starts to heat up this summer, TPAC is asking trail-voters to help us fight the Green PACs by making a donation today. These green PACs are already attacking our pro-trail candidates in states such as VA. Craig Manson, the former Assistant Secretary for Fish, Wildlife, and Parks in the U.S. Department of the Interior who has endorsed TPAC said, "As one who has served as a land management executive policymaker at the highest levels of federal and state governments, I can't stress enough the importance of recreation interests to get involved in the political process." "Federal resource departments must carry out the land-use directives from the White House while answering to Congress that creates laws, has budget authority, and oversight responsibilities. It is critically important for recreational interests to support those politicians who champion a responsible land-ethic that includes managed OHV use on public lands," Manson concludes. TPAC's Key Issue Areas in the 2012 Elections: OHV Use in General Roadless Areas Special Recreation Permits Travel Management Rule EPA/ESA Reform EAJA/Tort Reform National Monument Designations Created by Executive Orders If you agree with Secretary Craig Manson, please make a donation today and help TPAC fight "Big Green" and elect pro-trail candidates in the 2012 election cycle. Donate $25, $50, $100, $250, $500, or $1,000 dollars today at: Online Donations - http://www.thetrailpac.com/donate.html Snail Mail Donations - http://www.thetrailpac.com/TPACdonationformOct2011.pdf Thanks for your support! Don The Trail PAC www.thetrailpac.com PS: Please share this with your OHV network! |
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The "Local Assistance Funding"?
This a budget proposal that is just now being prepared by the LAO, a good time to write your Representative and tell them to stop robbing Peter to Pay Paul. We pay to play, that's our money (well at least the Green/Red Sticker money) but the Fuel Taxes, or our portion of should stay in the program as well. The money that has been stacking up in the OHV reserves is always going to be an easy target because it is not being used - shame on us for not using it. Now it's gone. Tis the way it is. It's not really clear to me what they are taking, how much and from where...it's a little ambiguous at this point.
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According to the current California Constitution, OHV gas taxes are not fungible until they hit the OHV Trust Fund hence the swirl around AB 95 and its Constitutionality.
Whether it's a battle that can be won is yet to be seen but it is currently clearly unconstitutional. This was debated at some length during a OHMVR Commission meeting April 5, 2011. http://ohv.parks.ca.gov/pages/1140/f...1-approved.pdf Several legislative proposals are currently in the pipe that may selectively change some or all of the current "Constitutional" law pertaining to this and other related matters. |
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Please see the other thread on Pirate /forum/land-use-issues/1056974-something-you-can-do-right-now.html for some of the answers concerning the constitutionality, and what we have or have not determined to this point.
As far as the money being taken before it hits the OHV Trust Fund, or afterwords, the attorneys have come back and said that this is basically an accounting trick that is well known to judges, and since last year's bill was written clearly to try and circumvent the original intent for those funds, that fact was somewhat inconsequential. Senator Simitian is in a tough situation - he is running for County Supervisor, and taking away the funding for both Metcalf OHV Park and law enforcement for Santa Clara County will not be popular among many of his constituents. But those living in his district have to be the ones who call and contact his office, the same for Noreen Evans. If you know anyone in their districts, please pass the word along. I'll be at the hearings tomorrow, and will report back. Amy
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Here is where the ball may have started rolling on this:
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All I can see is that they can borrow it if it goes to fund road work...
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the language stating that will give the Department the flexibility to use the local assistance money (grant funds) is basically saying that the Department can take that money to use in other areas of the Parks Operations. There goes the grant funds if this isn't stopped. The SVRA's are nice to have - but, the real riding occurs in the other public lands like the forest and blm - and some parks. Getting rid of the grant funds will devastate those opportunities - the forests and blm lands as well as the county parks survive off these funds....
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We don't think the funds are fungible - the Gov, who is the former Attorney General - does, the LAO does.
So now what? They are taking 10 mil. now as we speak, but it's not money we were using...right? It's being diverted from fuel taxes directly to fund parks and rec's road budget...right? I think it's robbing peter to pay paul, but how does anything like this get stopped? Do we go to the Capitol and Beg? Do we write letters to the Attorney General asking for her "opinion"? I was reading the minutes, and that seems like something someone was hinting at....
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Yes Wolfie, I agree the SVRA's are nice to have, personally not a big fan and don't use them, but honestly, I have yet to see an OHMVR project aside from the Rubicon, that benefits where I ride.
Trails??? Where are the New Trails, where are the Maintained Trails? Why do we keep losing trails? All this is happening when we have funding.... IMHO a lot of the money goes to intangibles - stuff that's behind the scenes, not to a better maintained trail. I'm so tired of the useless politics and posturing and nut swinging...just get something done on the ground already. All the whining is really beginning to bore me. How about we just divvy up the money to the Land Managers...like certain dollar amount per OHV mile, and let them decide where the money gets spent on which trails.
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Five of the 10 million that is being taken was from the grants funds. in previous years, the grant amount given out was 26 million - this year, because of the take, it is 21 million. Thus, fewer projects will be funded. Our club rides in the Stanislaus quite a bit - they rely heavily on these grant funds to keep the trails maintained.
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Can't find it either huh?
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Is it a scare tactic?
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the amount per category is stated in statute - it gives the percentage that will go to each category, 50% to operation and maintenance, 25% to restoration, 20% to LE and 5% to education and safety - regardless of how much is allocated each year for the grants program. so, if there is less allocation - then each category has less in its pot. they take the whole 21 million - there is nothing for any category.
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The trail pac is not involved in local elections as much as in Washington DC elections. The thing to do here is to donate to the people that are fighting for these funds here in California. That is the Off Highway Vehicle Defense Counsil or ohvdc.org. It is a fund set up by N2dirt and is run by a coalition of OHV advocates from around the State. The idea is to sue to get the money back. Make no mistake who is behind this effort to thwart the funding we get for our OHV opportunity. Read the articles and you see the name Karen Schambach.............
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On OHV Caucus Day in April, Senator Bob Huff came to our roundtable to talk about this very issue, and his words were clear - the Legislature will take whatever money they feel they can get away with, until they get sued. Quote:
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I've been working on the legislation part by building a large coalition of groups working together, because votes, and money, talk the loudest. But even the most conservative groups recognize the change that will take place with the top two vote getters in the primary becoming the candidates in the election. It means we have to change our tactics, engage new thinking instead of old thinking, and work with moderate Democrats in districts where it is likely only Democrats will be elected. By courting the moderate candidates, we stand a greater likelihood of increasing our influence. For those districts that are solid Republican - hallelujah and please stay that way. For those districts that are Democratic, we need to influence more moderate viewpoints. And yes, coalitions are the way to go. I sat in the Capital yesterday at the Sierra Club stood next to the Humane Society of the US to support the bill to outlaw hound hunting. That's a coalition in action, a very successful coalition at that. Some in the OHV community only want to work with the more conservative members, and that's great, however it will not help us achieve our goals in California. Hanging out at the Capitol is interesting and frustration all at the same time, but watching politics in action you learn a lot. Quote:
And we are making it known, through sources, that the OHV community is not taking this lightly, that we have engaged counsel, the same firm that won the First 5 case against the state (and the same lead attorney). Hopefully just that knowledge will be enough to make them think, instead of passing it without a thought. Amy
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