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http://www.azcentral.com/news/articl...hwayRules.html
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If anyone is already working on this and could use support please let me know. I am starting a letter writing campaign of my own right now.
This is utter BULLSHIT! They could remove every offroad vehicle in the state, and it would not impact the particulate pollution in Phoenix. This is the freakin' desert and dust is a part of life here... that is until they pave every last inch of land
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Write it up, and send Kurtuleas and email address list of targeted recipients.
We need to nip this "Dust" thing in the bud right now. Between Water Quality and Air Quality, they won't be satisfied until every last human is in the ground. The carrot is forever on the end of the stick with these polly anna legislators, the EPA and the anti access folks. The only way legislators will listen is if we tell them.
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I recommend you do a little research in the "dust" issue.
At issue is the "PM-10" standard and efforts to reduce it to PM-5. That is "PM" as in Parts per Million.... The Phoenix area is not the only potential impact. It is being raised in Imperial County, CA --- Glamis Dunes, Ocotillo Wells and Truckhaven. Air quality is a major emotional issue. Refer to the closure in Clear Creek in reference to the "asbestos" dust health hazard issue. It is also being raised in other areas with arsenic and other alkaloid particles in other arid areas. Yes, air and water quality are big issues that are now being raised...
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Join Date: Jul 2008
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Location: Scottsdale, AZ
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I have a hard time believing that the trails on the fringes of the county are heavily contributing to the PM levels in Phoenix. We have a fleet of street sweepers, water trucks running on construction sites, etc, etc. All to try and knock down dust levels. As soon as you disturb the ground here you end up with this fine talcum powder like material. If you don't keep water on it, the wind will eventually come along and pick it up. We don't have enough water here to keep everything wet for extended periods. Can't we just accept the fact that we live in a dust bowl? More construction, cars and people = more PM in the air. Accept it or move to a cleaner place.
Offroading is alot like smoking. The people that don't do it get to decide whether or not you get to do it. So many people want to govern someone else's life based on their own ideals. Now environmentalists and their government agency comrades are working these backdoor money deals (in the form of road money) to force states to create ridiculous and costly restrictions. In reality, it will do little to no good because population growth will negate all the advertised improvements in air quality. So what is the point? Population growth is the problem, not some guy riding around on the county fringes. IMO. |
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If the power crazed environmentalists and their lackies in government agencies win cases like this all of the US State and Federal lands in the West will be off limits to us in a fairly short time frame. We bitch about what they are doing and getting away with, but we all need to be more proactive (me included) in writing emails and more importantly letters, joining and supporting those organizations who will take on causes like this with legal action, and vote against local and national politicians who support liberal groups and environmental activists. If we fail to do these as the LARGE group that we are, at some point in the not to distant future we will all be setting with a beer watching Al Gores documentary while our rigs are setting in the garage with no place to go.
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Join Date: May 2004
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One thing for sure, where my complex is located is on the border of an indian reservation. They farm there but mostly dust it seems
The dust blows into our shop almost all day long Right smack in the middle of town!!!But I'm sure it would be discrimination if anyone were to say anything about it. The rest of these areas are an hour out of town
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The environmental community has been trying a number of different tactics to "protect" land.
Their newest tactic is to link health issues in the urban and cities areas to air-borne contaminates caused by out of control recreation. The PM standards are one element; especially when it can be linked to asthma in children. Yes, it is called "desert" for a reason. There is limited annual rainfall leading to an arid environment and there is a constant wind. Yes, "dust" is a natural part of any desert environment. Dust is the latest in a long line of issues being used in an effort to shut down recreation. The pending political power change in November does not bode well.
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McKellips and McClintock.
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