I need help re-opening a trail - Jergins... - Page 2 - Pirate4x4.Com : 4x4 and Off-Road Forum

Timbo · 08-28-2008, 10:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Brandon

Hey Tim,
At the least just names and numbers - I still have my old pirate roster (somewhere) but I don't want to put everyone down without asking. I may go calling up people later..

PMed you my number. Call me for more numbers.

VERTIGO · 08-28-2008, 02:47 PM

I went around 99'. I love that place... real nice rock pile at the very end near the river.

Brandon · 08-28-2008, 02:49 PM

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Originally Posted by VERTIGO

I went around 99'. I love that place... real nice rock pile at the very end near the river.

Hit me with your contact info and I'll add ya to the list!

Arrow · 08-28-2008, 03:32 PM

I was there
In fact that was the crew I was in doing the waterbars.
Somehow got missed in the photo , but that's ok I just wanted the trail to stay open , although I hadn't been on it before that workparty day.
Seems a real shame that the forest service let/got us to do all that work then the trail was closed immeditely after

Brandon · 08-28-2008, 03:37 PM

I am sure you are in the other pictures, added you - thanks!

Up to 37 people..

Glenn · 08-28-2008, 04:29 PM

Jack Armstrong was there...

Brandon · 08-28-2008, 07:59 PM

yep

Good Times..

38 people..

sacjeepster · 08-28-2008, 09:33 PM

I went there many times in early 2000's,with my old 72 bronco and another person who turned his bronco into a buggy,I liked that trail,close to sac and fun.

Brandon · 08-28-2008, 10:48 PM

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Originally Posted by sacjeepster

I went there many times in early 2000's,with my old 72 bronco and another person who turned his bronco into a buggy,I liked that trail,close to sac and fun.

PM me your contact info, I need all the names/numbers I can get! Give me your buddies info too!

Greg_Volkman · 08-28-2008, 11:35 PM

I used the trail a few years back to gain access to the river.

IIRC there was a simliar situation in CO when a guy bought land that had a designated dirt road on it for 100 years and attempted to close it. I am not sure what happened - ultimately though, the guy cut down many trees and tore up the land to prevent access....he ended up being convicted in a case against the USFS.

Bob · 08-29-2008, 06:49 AM

I've been going down there for well over 30 years, used to be a great little peaceful place until

Lets hope the exposure will work in the trails favor this time.

Pm'd ya Brandon

Dan-H · 08-29-2008, 07:37 AM

I ran it a few times. I'll dig around for some pics.

I was also on the cleanup run the day before BLM closed the gate.

We should be able to get copies of the BLM signup sheets from all the meetings we went to prior to it being gated, and prior to access to the gate being blocked.

We should also be able to get a copy of the BLM signup sheet from the cleanup day.

Brandon · 08-29-2008, 08:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Dan-H

I ran it a few times. I'll dig around for some pics.

I was also on the cleanup run the day before BLM closed the gate.

We should be able to get copies of the BLM signup sheets from all the meetings we went to prior to it being gated, and prior to access to the gate being blocked.

We should also be able to get a copy of the BLM signup sheet from the cleanup day.

True, but if the BLM wanted to help they would have a long time ago. The process with BLM was never finished so really I don't think they have the right to close the gate on their end but I think they are happy someone else did so personally unless there is no option leaving them out for now sounds good..

Keith · 08-29-2008, 08:37 AM

I too have been many times. Great place to watch the rafters go by. I know Ian, Rob, me, the HBRK guys, and a few others I can think of. I will post this on the Zombie site to get some more bites for ya. Pm'd ya.

randii · 08-29-2008, 10:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Brandon

True, but if the BLM wanted to help they would have a long time ago.

True -- but they have to respond to a Freedom of Information Request.

FWIW, this BLM has *NO* interested in allowing motorized recreation -- expect a fight at every turn. I'm not saying NOT to fight -- far from it -- but expect a fight.

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Originally Posted by Brandon

The process with BLM was never finished so really I don't think they have the right to close the gate on their end but I think they are happy someone else did so personally unless there is no option leaving them out for now sounds good.

The way I recall it is the BLM was happy to have the gate closed by someone else, but that they completed their management process anyway.

Of course I have tried to repress much of those memories.

Randii

Brandon · 08-29-2008, 10:25 AM

thanks to all, 45 and counting..

True Randii, the BLM is a whole other story..

Worst case we help a few miners get access to their claims and they invite us out to their claim sometime, I don't feel too bad about that..

The thing is were not trying to get access to an off road park, we are proving this road has been open to the public and in use for X amount of years regardless of who owns it (BLM, private, etc).

Tom is fully aware of Al Franklin and the rest of the BLM and he is the one running this show, his choice at this time is to leave BLM out of it but that may change.

TCARP1 · 08-29-2008, 06:35 PM

I have been there numerous times, in fact my buddy used to date the daughter of the people who owned some of the land I think...... I will give him a call.......pm you now lets get this trail open!!!!

KILLERXJ · 08-31-2008, 04:38 AM

We used to go there almost weekly when I was in highschool. pm'ed ya

CRAWLTOY · 08-31-2008, 05:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Kurtuleas

Whatever happened to that club the "Mountain high toys" or whatever they were called? they used to have a website back in the day.....

They had a good number of members, if you could contact them you may get a few more names.

Didn't they do that trail all the time?

Or maybe I am still not thinking of the right place....

All the Mountain High Toys guys still wheel together, we just dont have a club. Brandon pm me an I can hook you up with atleast 20 names of buddies when we used to go there all the time...

BigRob · 08-31-2008, 08:35 PM

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Originally Posted by rockhog

I have been there....went with Bigrob. Fun little trail!!

Yep, goodtimes for sure!!

finder_87 · 08-31-2008, 09:30 PM

pm'ed

Sillyneck · 09-01-2008, 07:43 AM

ahhhhhh the good old days. "hey.... let's make a jergens run on the way to rubicon"

"hey.... rubicon was fun, let's make a jergens run on the way home"

Broncrick · 09-01-2008, 07:58 AM

Been there too B

Rick-

chandall · 09-01-2008, 08:53 PM

Kim and I.

Open Open Open.

Brandon · 09-03-2008, 10:19 AM

sending the list over tonight - but I can always send revised ones. Most beneficial would be people that have been there for a looong time - say 30 years plus. So ask gramps if he used to go down there

08-28-2008, 02:47 PM	#27 (permalink)
VERTIGO Rock God Join Date: Jul 2000 Member # 1280 Location: Roseville, CA. Posts: 1,558	I went around 99'. I love that place... real nice rock pile at the very end near the river. __________________ !ROCK ZOMBIE! When in doubt, don't use a scout! ECV-711 www.rockzombies4x4.com http://www.greatestaterealty.com

08-28-2008, 03:32 PM	#29 (permalink)
Arrow Registered User Join Date: Feb 2000 Member # 49 Location: SacraTomato Posts: 681	I was there In fact that was the crew I was in doing the waterbars. Somehow got missed in the photo , but that's ok I just wanted the trail to stay open , although I hadn't been on it before that workparty day. Seems a real shame that the forest service let/got us to do all that work then the trail was closed immeditely after __________________ Tom Ok so it's not extreme but it gets dirty! The Heartbeat of America Yesterday's Chevy Truck!

08-28-2008, 03:37 PM	#30 (permalink)
Brandon Registered User Join Date: Mar 1975 Member # 6 Location: Sacramento, CA Posts: 13,666	I am sure you are in the other pictures, added you - thanks! Up to 37 people.. __________________ This Space for rent!

08-28-2008, 04:29 PM	#31 (permalink)
Glenn Registered User Join Date: Feb 2000 Member # 12 Location: Diamond Springs, CA Posts: 6,008	Jack Armstrong was there... Attached Images __________________ Retired U.S. Air Force Master Sergeant... Retired State of CA. Systems Software Specialist... [COLOR="Blue"]Lifetime member Blue Ribbon Coalition [/COLOR] [COLOR="Red"]Been wheelin since before you were born. [/COLOR]

08-28-2008, 07:59 PM	#32 (permalink)
Brandon Registered User Join Date: Mar 1975 Member # 6 Location: Sacramento, CA Posts: 13,666	yep Good Times.. 38 people.. __________________ This Space for rent! Last edited by Brandon; 08-28-2008 at 08:00 PM.

08-28-2008, 09:33 PM	#33 (permalink)
sacjeepster Registered User Join Date: Nov 2007 Member # 103121 Location: sacramento,ca Posts: 101	I went there many times in early 2000's,with my old 72 bronco and another person who turned his bronco into a buggy,I liked that trail,close to sac and fun.

08-28-2008, 11:35 PM	#35 (permalink)
Greg_Volkman Registered User Join Date: Jan 2006 Member # 65012 Location: Travis AFB, CA Posts: 510	I used the trail a few years back to gain access to the river. IIRC there was a simliar situation in CO when a guy bought land that had a designated dirt road on it for 100 years and attempted to close it. I am not sure what happened - ultimately though, the guy cut down many trees and tore up the land to prevent access....he ended up being convicted in a case against the USFS. __________________ To err is human. To arrrr is pirate.

08-29-2008, 06:49 AM	#36 (permalink)
Bob Granite Guru Join Date: Feb 2000 Member # 182 Location: Georgetown, CA Posts: 835	I've been going down there for well over 30 years, used to be a great little peaceful place until Lets hope the exposure will work in the trails favor this time. Pm'd ya Brandon __________________ Got It

08-29-2008, 07:37 AM	#37 (permalink)
Dan-H Registered User Join Date: May 2000 Member # 792 Location: El Dorado County CA Posts: 2,176	I ran it a few times. I'll dig around for some pics. I was also on the cleanup run the day before BLM closed the gate. We should be able to get copies of the BLM signup sheets from all the meetings we went to prior to it being gated, and prior to access to the gate being blocked. We should also be able to get a copy of the BLM signup sheet from the cleanup day. __________________ 01 TJ

08-29-2008, 08:37 AM	#39 (permalink)
Keith Registered User Join Date: Feb 2000 Member # 52 Location: Janesville, CA Posts: 7,212	I too have been many times. Great place to watch the rafters go by. I know Ian, Rob, me, the HBRK guys, and a few others I can think of. I will post this on the Zombie site to get some more bites for ya. Pm'd ya. __________________ Rockzombie Smurf

08-29-2008, 10:25 AM	#41 (permalink)
Brandon Registered User Join Date: Mar 1975 Member # 6 Location: Sacramento, CA Posts: 13,666	thanks to all, 45 and counting.. True Randii, the BLM is a whole other story.. Worst case we help a few miners get access to their claims and they invite us out to their claim sometime, I don't feel too bad about that.. The thing is were not trying to get access to an off road park, we are proving this road has been open to the public and in use for X amount of years regardless of who owns it (BLM, private, etc). Tom is fully aware of Al Franklin and the rest of the BLM and he is the one running this show, his choice at this time is to leave BLM out of it but that may change. __________________ This Space for rent! Last edited by Brandon; 08-29-2008 at 10:29 AM.

08-29-2008, 06:35 PM	#42 (permalink)
TCARP1 "Racing for Access" Join Date: Feb 2007 Member # 86691 Location: Orangevale, CA Posts: 1,678	I have been there numerous times, in fact my buddy used to date the daughter of the people who owned some of the land I think...... I will give him a call.......pm you now lets get this trail open!!!! __________________ KOH and BITD Competitor #4405 FISHMOUTH FABWORKS MASTER-PULL Recovery gear Pacific Fab, Ruffstuff Specialties, Reid Racing, Team Tube, Raceline Wheels, Goodyear Tires, Yukon Gear, 4130 Clothing, Blue Torch Fab, Artec, Bulldog, PRP, Concept Wraps

08-31-2008, 04:38 AM	#43 (permalink)
KILLERXJ Registered User Join Date: Feb 2001 Member # 3346 Location: Placerville, CA USA Posts: 366	We used to go there almost weekly when I was in highschool. pm'ed ya

08-31-2008, 09:30 PM	#46 (permalink)
finder_87 Registered User Join Date: May 2001 Member # 4682 Location: Roseville, CA Posts: 797	pm'ed __________________ Um...what?

09-01-2008, 07:43 AM	#47 (permalink)
Sillyneck Pissing Excellence Join Date: Mar 2000 Member # 517 Location: Sacramento, ca Posts: 12,345	ahhhhhh the good old days. "hey.... let's make a jergens run on the way to rubicon" "hey.... rubicon was fun, let's make a jergens run on the way home" __________________ www.sfsindustries.com www.facebook.com/plicciardi 4457 Team DMR Off Road Warehouse MJ Motorsports Yukon Ruffstuff Driveline Service Sacramento Wrap Concept Barnes Welding Supply Sacramento

09-01-2008, 07:58 AM	#48 (permalink)
Broncrick Registered User Join Date: Sep 2000 Member # 1713 Location: Sacto & Nevada City Posts: 587	Been there too B Rick- __________________ 69 EB ARB's, 37's, 5.0, ZF, 148:1 bla, bla, bla.....

09-01-2008, 08:53 PM	#49 (permalink)
chandall Rock God Join Date: Feb 2000 Member # 66 Location: El Dorado Hills Posts: 1,085	Kim and I. Open Open Open. __________________ 2007 Wrangler Rubicon JK on 37" Toyo MT's, 5.38's, 4.5" Spynergy with Clayton Arms, Racelines, Atlas 5.0, Clayton Skids, Alloy shafts, Reid knuckles, Rescue Green with Half Doors

09-03-2008, 10:19 AM	#50 (permalink)
Brandon Registered User Join Date: Mar 1975 Member # 6 Location: Sacramento, CA Posts: 13,666	sending the list over tonight - but I can always send revised ones. Most beneficial would be people that have been there for a looong time - say 30 years plus. So ask gramps if he used to go down there __________________ This Space for rent!

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