If your interested in makin the trip sometime we have a mud bog usually once or twice a month here in west ky at a guys farm its 3 catfish ponds one drained for the mid level guys, it has a nasty pit and a hill climb in it, 2 of the ponds hold water and get pretty nasty they give a guy on 47" ltb's problems. If you think your ever intersted let me know and ill get you some directions.