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cruiserrg · 12-07-2002, 09:58 PM

I am working on a rock crawler project with MOG 404 axles. I would like to know what everyone has done to modify the locking mechanism. I have done some research and some people have done it with cables, while others pnuematicly. I'd like to see some pics or tech on locker modification.

My thought is to find a lever controled cable with a gate to keep the locker engaged. Anyone know of such an off the self item? Pics?

Lastly, my diffs return to the "open" position. Is there any mod to change this? Also those with modified engagement systems, how do you keep pressure on the lever until the dog clutch engages.

Thanks in advance.

MOGXJ44 · 12-08-2002, 12:19 AM

I plan to use old e'brake cables out of a junkyard. Maybe the Toy style and mount it just under the dash. Just pull on it and the preload will engage it whenever the gears mesh together, and keep it engaged until disengaged.
Travis

Wolfgang · 12-08-2002, 02:23 AM

I took a linear actuator. It´s still a test phase. It works so far perfect without a problem. Now i am going to make a proper installation.
www.killeraxles.com

kwrangln · 12-08-2002, 08:09 AM

How about an OX locker shifter and cable?

Ken

cruiserrg · 12-08-2002, 12:07 PM

Thanks for the replys, keep 'em coming.

I really like the looks of that OX locker engagement lever. I might have to look into that. I wonder how much travel it has and if it'll work.

Busto · 12-17-2002, 12:18 PM

Also look into Morse Controls. They make a bunch of different shifters, hydraulic controls, hand throttles and other devices.

Swiss Jeeper · 05-02-2003, 12:50 PM

Hello guy,

Did you find a solution that work, pneumatic or electric ?
Do you have pics of them ?
Thank you for help.

cruiserrg · 05-02-2003, 07:53 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Swiss Jeeper
Hello guy,

Did you find a solution that work, pneumatic or electric ?
Do you have pics of them ?
Thank you for help.

I haven't yet tackled the diff lock controls yet. That will actually be a ways off. I think I am going to try pneumatics, but I will supply pics once I figure something out.

Anyone else have installs and pics?

Strange Rover · 05-04-2003, 03:07 AM

I just went with cables that I can pull and give them a 1/4 turn to lock them. I think that this style of cable is used for setting idel on diesel engines. Also used the factory spring preload setup so that I can just pull the cables and lock them and the factory spring preload setup engauges the locker when the splines line up. Very simple, very foolproof and works well although the cables do take a bit of force to pull them and lock them.

The best bit about this setup is that when I want to disengauge the lockers I can still tell whether thay are in or not cause the cable handpiece will still sit up a bit if the lockers still in.

close up pic of the diff end with the factory preload setup on the end of the push pull cable.

Sam

Strange Rover · 05-04-2003, 03:09 AM

That reminds me I still got to put the breather on the front diff.

The whole diff setup.

Sam

Strange Rover · 05-04-2003, 03:12 AM

other end of the cables. The thing is with these cables is that you have to get them made the correct length cause they dont like going around corners.

Sam

Strange Rover · 05-04-2003, 03:14 AM

sid eview of the handles. This is with the front locker in the locked position.

Sam

12-07-2002, 09:58 PM	#1 (permalink)
cruiserrg Registered User Join Date: Jun 2001 Member # 4961 Location: Mankato, MN USA Posts: 867	Diff Lock Mods I am working on a rock crawler project with MOG 404 axles. I would like to know what everyone has done to modify the locking mechanism. I have done some research and some people have done it with cables, while others pnuematicly. I'd like to see some pics or tech on locker modification. My thought is to find a lever controled cable with a gate to keep the locker engaged. Anyone know of such an off the self item? Pics? Lastly, my diffs return to the "open" position. Is there any mod to change this? Also those with modified engagement systems, how do you keep pressure on the lever until the dog clutch engages. Thanks in advance. __________________ Reuben Gosewisch AKA: cruiserrg See pics of my Tube Chassised, MOG axled rockcrawler project: [url="http://webpages.charter.net/cruiserrg/toypuproject.html"]CruiserProject[/url] Wisconsin Off Highway Vehicle Association Webmaster: [url="http://www.wohva.com"]www.wohva.com[/url] Midwest 4 Wheel Drive Association Webmaster: [url="http://www.mw4wda.org"]www.mw4wda.org[/url]

12-08-2002, 02:23 AM	#3 (permalink)
Wolfgang Registered User Join Date: Feb 2002 Member # 10045 Location: Germany Posts: 728	I took a linear actuator. It´s still a test phase. It works so far perfect without a problem. Now i am going to make a proper installation. www.killeraxles.com Attached Images

12-08-2002, 08:09 AM	#4 (permalink)
kwrangln Doublewide engineer Join Date: Sep 2001 Member # 6971 Location: Gulf coast Posts: 5,904	How about an OX locker shifter and cable? Ken __________________ I'm the "tack tack tack" welding nazi. http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showp...&postcount=218 "I didn't mean to kill nobody ... I just meant to shoot the sonofabitch in the head. Him dying was between him and the Lord." R. L. Burnside

12-08-2002, 12:07 PM	#5 (permalink)
cruiserrg Registered User Join Date: Jun 2001 Member # 4961 Location: Mankato, MN USA Posts: 867	Thanks for the replys, keep 'em coming. I really like the looks of that OX locker engagement lever. I might have to look into that. I wonder how much travel it has and if it'll work. __________________ Reuben Gosewisch AKA: cruiserrg See pics of my Tube Chassised, MOG axled rockcrawler project: [url="http://webpages.charter.net/cruiserrg/toypuproject.html"]CruiserProject[/url] Wisconsin Off Highway Vehicle Association Webmaster: [url="http://www.wohva.com"]www.wohva.com[/url] Midwest 4 Wheel Drive Association Webmaster: [url="http://www.mw4wda.org"]www.mw4wda.org[/url]

05-02-2003, 12:50 PM	#7 (permalink)
Swiss Jeeper Registered User Join Date: Jan 2003 Member # 16586 Location: Switzerland Posts: 58	Hello guy, Did you find a solution that work, pneumatic or electric ? Do you have pics of them ? Thank you for help. __________________ Wrangler TJ 97, 4 liter, Mog 404 axles with Jeep CJ pattern and disc brakes F+R, 37x13 16 Bogger, Currie arms suspension kit, 1" body lift, Font and rear winchs Warn HS9500 and a lot of modifications

12-08-2002, 12:19 AM	#2 (permalink)
MOGXJ44 Registered User Join Date: Mar 2002 Member # 10366 Location: Aloha, OR Posts: 951	I plan to use old e'brake cables out of a junkyard. Maybe the Toy style and mount it just under the dash. Just pull on it and the preload will engage it whenever the gears mesh together, and keep it engaged until disengaged. Travis

12-17-2002, 12:18 PM	#6 (permalink)
Busto Registered User Join Date: Oct 2002 Member # 14480 Location: ES Posts: 180	Also look into Morse Controls. They make a bunch of different shifters, hydraulic controls, hand throttles and other devices.

05-04-2003, 03:07 AM	#9 (permalink)
Strange Rover Registered User Join Date: Nov 2001 Member # 7962 Location: Australia Posts: 1,462	I just went with cables that I can pull and give them a 1/4 turn to lock them. I think that this style of cable is used for setting idel on diesel engines. Also used the factory spring preload setup so that I can just pull the cables and lock them and the factory spring preload setup engauges the locker when the splines line up. Very simple, very foolproof and works well although the cables do take a bit of force to pull them and lock them. The best bit about this setup is that when I want to disengauge the lockers I can still tell whether thay are in or not cause the cable handpiece will still sit up a bit if the lockers still in. close up pic of the diff end with the factory preload setup on the end of the push pull cable. Sam Attached Images __________________ Land Rover SIIa, 302W, NP435, NP205, MOG404s, 42in Swamper TSLs, 112in WB "An expert is somebody who learns more and more about less and less until one day they know absolutely everything about nothing." Outerlimits4x4.com - home of aussie rock crawling.

05-04-2003, 03:09 AM	#10 (permalink)
Strange Rover Registered User Join Date: Nov 2001 Member # 7962 Location: Australia Posts: 1,462	That reminds me I still got to put the breather on the front diff. The whole diff setup. Sam Attached Images __________________ Land Rover SIIa, 302W, NP435, NP205, MOG404s, 42in Swamper TSLs, 112in WB "An expert is somebody who learns more and more about less and less until one day they know absolutely everything about nothing." Outerlimits4x4.com - home of aussie rock crawling.

05-04-2003, 03:12 AM	#11 (permalink)
Strange Rover Registered User Join Date: Nov 2001 Member # 7962 Location: Australia Posts: 1,462	other end of the cables. The thing is with these cables is that you have to get them made the correct length cause they dont like going around corners. Sam Attached Images __________________ Land Rover SIIa, 302W, NP435, NP205, MOG404s, 42in Swamper TSLs, 112in WB "An expert is somebody who learns more and more about less and less until one day they know absolutely everything about nothing." Outerlimits4x4.com - home of aussie rock crawling.

05-04-2003, 03:14 AM	#12 (permalink)
Strange Rover Registered User Join Date: Nov 2001 Member # 7962 Location: Australia Posts: 1,462	sid eview of the handles. This is with the front locker in the locked position. Sam Attached Images __________________ Land Rover SIIa, 302W, NP435, NP205, MOG404s, 42in Swamper TSLs, 112in WB "An expert is somebody who learns more and more about less and less until one day they know absolutely everything about nothing." Outerlimits4x4.com - home of aussie rock crawling.

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