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Old 04-22-2003, 02:48 PM   #1 (permalink)
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max back spacing for a 17" rim on a 404

title says it all, anyone messed around with'em. danial says 8" but i have not yet spoke to him about them. others say 4.5 or so. mike
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Old 04-22-2003, 11:21 PM   #2 (permalink)
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I went with 4", When I talked to Factory Tubular who also built Charlie Copsey and Scott Gadsen's wheels they said the max they could get was 4.5" unless you moved the steering arms.
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Old 04-27-2003, 05:29 AM   #3 (permalink)
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Ill take a pic of my 4in BS with 15in wheels and you will be able to see the clearance issues. Should be able to do this tomorrow (if I remember)

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show me the pix please
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Old 05-04-2003, 02:51 AM   #5 (permalink)
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finally got some pics.

these are 15in rims with 4in BS. You can see how close the rim (and tyre) comes to the top of the portal. If you go to 17in rims you gain 1in in radius and I think that although the lip of the rim will clear the portal but the bead seat area still wont. So I dont think you would get 5in BS with the 17in rims.

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can just fit my finger in there

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thanks for the pixs, looks like i need some new bling bling 20s
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Sam,
How much did you have to trim off the drum lip and brake backing plate? I'm impressed with 15's on those 404's.
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Old 06-18-2003, 05:06 AM   #9 (permalink)
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FWIW... Volvo info

Not trying to Hijack, but a lot of readers are always looking at options etc. With my Volvo's- front 9.5" BS with a 8.75 wheel, rear 10.5 BS with a 9.75 wheel- these are 17's and skinnies the rig up nicely without messing with the axle. Good luck to my portal cousins
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i have changed my mind again. i am using 48s on 20s so i can put it anywhere i want. going big and long, to hell with a comp buggy.
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How much did you have to trim off the drum lip and brake backing plate? I'm impressed with 15's on those 404's.
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In the end I took a fair bit off. Basically took the dust seal lip off totally (if thats what you call it) but left a thick edge on the outside. Also had to take a bit off the OD of the drum itself. I think at most it would have been 3mm (0.012in) off the thickness at the worst point.

Without machining the drum at all I guess I could have gone with about 2.5in BS. The 15in steel wheels do go pn there a fair way and its just a matter off taking metal till they fit on as far as you want.

Next time i got a wheel off Ill see if I can take a pic and post the bare drum.

For the backing I just cut it all off except I left a bit of a lip (about 1/4in). I just cut around in a vertical plane with a grinder.

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I've got 6.25" backspacing on my 17x10 allied beadlocks. I am running EXAXT.ca's disc brakes tho
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I've got 6.25" backspacing on my 17x10 allied beadlocks. I am running EXAXT.ca's disc brakes tho
How close that that get the rim to the portal box. You can see my pics (above) where my rim almost touches the top bolt. Does the dics brake mod let you get closer??

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the Exaxt disk brake kit adds ~3.25" of WMS!
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Old 06-26-2003, 03:56 PM   #15 (permalink)
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Yeah, Rob designed his kit to work with unmodified Hummer rims. That's 7.25" BS on a 16.5" rim. You probably could have gotten at least 7.5" with those 17's.
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I might do some mogs with 44's .......... but it depends on the $$$$$
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