are front 404's holding up? - Pirate4x4.Com : 4x4 and Off-Road Forum

extremetoy · 12-03-2006, 11:45 AM

man i just got around to taking apart my front and the shafts are way smaller than the rears. is anyone having problems with them or are they fine since there is the reduction before it gets to the shafts.

weps · 12-03-2006, 01:24 PM

I have heard of at least one shaft breaking (on here at least) but I've often wondered the same

this year I went to rear steer, and I KNOW I've had the rear knuckles sideways and stupid, and standing on it many times

took mine apart too, and the 1 stock shaft looks fine. I "stubbed" one (narrowed 1 side) and it has a funny look to it. Thinking of stepping up to larger shafts though.

rock mafia · 12-03-2006, 10:32 PM

I've broke 2 cv's, with 48 in goodyears. Just put on 42's and gave them a little lighter load. People say they are that way so they twist some instead of break, sounds good anyway when you see how small they really are.

weps · 12-04-2006, 08:24 AM

Did you actually break the CV or did it come apart and then break? They have 1,400 pieces and that would be a mess!
I'm thinking 42's are about the limit of a 404 axle, but I'm pretty happy with my setup too.

rock mafia · 12-04-2006, 08:41 AM

Both times, hitting a ledge and sliding back, I don't think I let out of the gas fast enough. Both seemed to break the caps that bolt to the center first, but its hard to tell, wound up with about half the cv parts broken each time.

OX · 12-04-2006, 10:29 AM

Mine's holding so far with 42's (and a heavy 6500 lb pig), but I had the diff moved over so both my inners are full dia 4340.

gttowhlr · 12-30-2006, 01:38 PM

buddy of mine has 60s with 404 outers on his 4300lb buggy has 300m inners stock outers and he broke the l/r c.v. not doing much of anything. it has 39 red labels.interesting to hear what breaks.

12-03-2006, 11:45 AM	#1 (permalink)
extremetoy Registered User Join Date: Aug 2003 Member # 21887 Location: pleasanton ca Posts: 2,300	are front 404's holding up? man i just got around to taking apart my front and the shafts are way smaller than the rears. is anyone having problems with them or are they fine since there is the reduction before it gets to the shafts. __________________ Sit down lawn mower

12-03-2006, 10:32 PM	#3 (permalink)
rock mafia Rock God Join Date: Apr 2006 Member # 70555 Location: Greensboro, NC Posts: 1,605	I've broke 2 cv's, with 48 in goodyears. Just put on 42's and gave them a little lighter load. People say they are that way so they twist some instead of break, sounds good anyway when you see how small they really are. __________________ clicky---> Facebook Jim's Garage http://www.mandmfab.com/

12-04-2006, 08:41 AM	#5 (permalink)
rock mafia Rock God Join Date: Apr 2006 Member # 70555 Location: Greensboro, NC Posts: 1,605	Both times, hitting a ledge and sliding back, I don't think I let out of the gas fast enough. Both seemed to break the caps that bolt to the center first, but its hard to tell, wound up with about half the cv parts broken each time. __________________ clicky---> Facebook Jim's Garage http://www.mandmfab.com/

12-04-2006, 10:29 AM	#6 (permalink)
OX Registered User Join Date: Jan 2001 Member # 3113 Location: Lakewood, NJ, 08701 Posts: 1,104	Mine's holding so far with 42's (and a heavy 6500 lb pig), but I had the diff moved over so both my inners are full dia 4340. __________________ 74 Bronc build, 408/C6/Black Box/205/406 mogs/43 SX stickies 79 Bronc XLT, 400/C6/404 Mogs/42 roks

12-30-2006, 01:38 PM	#7 (permalink)
gttowhlr Registered User Join Date: Feb 2006 Member # 66588 Location: goffstown N.H. Posts: 129	buddy of mine has 60s with 404 outers on his 4300lb buggy has 300m inners stock outers and he broke the l/r c.v. not doing much of anything. it has 39 red labels.interesting to hear what breaks. __________________ 88 toyota 4runner 39 irocs and some other stuff

12-03-2006, 01:24 PM	#2 (permalink)
weps Registered User Join Date: Feb 2002 Member # 10290 Location: Northeast Indiana Posts: 1,206	I have heard of at least one shaft breaking (on here at least) but I've often wondered the same this year I went to rear steer, and I KNOW I've had the rear knuckles sideways and stupid, and standing on it many times took mine apart too, and the 1 stock shaft looks fine. I "stubbed" one (narrowed 1 side) and it has a funny look to it. Thinking of stepping up to larger shafts though.

12-04-2006, 08:24 AM	#4 (permalink)
weps Registered User Join Date: Feb 2002 Member # 10290 Location: Northeast Indiana Posts: 1,206	Did you actually break the CV or did it come apart and then break? They have 1,400 pieces and that would be a mess! I'm thinking 42's are about the limit of a 404 axle, but I'm pretty happy with my setup too.

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