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offroadr35 · 08-11-2002, 12:51 PM

i'm about to start building a buggy and am thinking of going with 404 axles. My question is, how do they stop with the stock drum brakes? Every disc conversion i've seen is way out of my price range. it will be trail only so what do you think? Is there any way to improve braking without going with one of the multi thousand dollar disc conversions?

-Steve

coachgeo · 08-11-2002, 02:35 PM

compare the weight of a buggy to a Mog... yep... ur talking nearly a ton maybe two lighter. Now ask your self the brake question again and laugh at yourself.

evilfij · 08-11-2002, 06:03 PM

Got hydroboost?

Ron

unissamog · 08-12-2002, 06:07 AM

Most mogs with air over hyd. or vac. assist will stop in short order. some will nearly lift the rear wheels.

So your buggy should have little to no stopping problems.

weps · 08-12-2002, 09:31 AM

I plan on installing disc brakes on the front of my 'Mog axle rig. The stock 'mog drums seem as if they are pretty well sealed up. BUT, as experience has shown me with my M715, no matter how well you keep your drum brakes clean/set/adjusted, slime and mud WILL get in there, and then its just like having greased the shoes. The disc brakes I put on that truck were the best investment on the entire rig. I see that you are out west, so maybe you won't get into too much of the nasty black muck we have here in IN.

Wolfgang · 08-15-2002, 01:03 PM

Sometimes you have to spend more money to fix your old drum brake set up than to buy a set of disc brakes. The disc brake set comes with the 8lug bolt pattern so you can use the big variety of pick up tires (16" and 16,5"). It´a good investment!

www.killeraxles.com

08-11-2002, 12:51 PM	#1 (permalink)
offroadr35 Registered User Join Date: Dec 2001 Member # 8843 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 1,838	stopping with 404 axles? i'm about to start building a buggy and am thinking of going with 404 axles. My question is, how do they stop with the stock drum brakes? Every disc conversion i've seen is way out of my price range. it will be trail only so what do you think? Is there any way to improve braking without going with one of the multi thousand dollar disc conversions? -Steve

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coachgeo Registered User Join Date: Jan 2001 Member # 2708 Location: Pilot Point Tx Posts: 2,912	stopping compare the weight of a buggy to a Mog... yep... ur talking nearly a ton maybe two lighter. Now ask your self the brake question again and laugh at yourself. __________________ It's a Daimler thing: You wouldnt understand! [i]"I work on a fishing boat. I started as a Apprentice Baiter. Now I am a Journeyman baiter. One day I hope to make Master Baiter". (By DEnd)[/i]

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evilfij Registered User Join Date: Oct 2001 Member # 7755 Location: Main Line PA Posts: 1,953	Got hydroboost? Ron __________________ :evil:

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unissamog Registered User Join Date: May 2002 Member # 11729 Location: Perkinsville Vermont Posts: 283	Most mogs with air over hyd. or vac. assist will stop in short order. some will nearly lift the rear wheels. So your buggy should have little to no stopping problems. __________________ I got your jeep thing, now it hurts when I pee.

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08-12-2002, 09:31 AM	#5 (permalink)
weps Registered User Join Date: Feb 2002 Member # 10290 Location: Northeast Indiana Posts: 1,206	I plan on installing disc brakes on the front of my 'Mog axle rig. The stock 'mog drums seem as if they are pretty well sealed up. BUT, as experience has shown me with my M715, no matter how well you keep your drum brakes clean/set/adjusted, slime and mud WILL get in there, and then its just like having greased the shoes. The disc brakes I put on that truck were the best investment on the entire rig. I see that you are out west, so maybe you won't get into too much of the nasty black muck we have here in IN.

08-15-2002, 01:03 PM	#6 (permalink)
Wolfgang Registered User Join Date: Feb 2002 Member # 10045 Location: Germany Posts: 728	Sometimes you have to spend more money to fix your old drum brake set up than to buy a set of disc brakes. The disc brake set comes with the 8lug bolt pattern so you can use the big variety of pick up tires (16" and 16,5"). It´a good investment! www.killeraxles.com