404 temp sender - Pirate4x4.Com : 4x4 and Off-Road Forum

Puffdragon · 09-13-2002, 05:45 PM

Hey guys, most of you dont seem to be mog owners, but i am sure some of you are.
My problem is that I broke the capillary for my temp gauge. even though my mog has never overheated, I would like to know its temp from time to time. So does anybody know if a generic temp sender will fit in the mog block. Since my truck is a rockcrawler and not a show truck, I dont care about the gauges being the same. thanks guys.

K.c. carpenter

coachgeo · 09-15-2002, 08:36 PM

do u have a 404, 416, U 1300... what Mog temp sender.

Yeah I got a Mog.

Puffdragon · 09-16-2002, 08:09 AM

the title of the tread said 404 temp sender

But seriously, its a 404. I am assuming its a standard gauge. The gauge is fine, but I broke the capillary.

unimogken · 09-16-2002, 08:28 AM

Have you contacted any of the Unimog part dealers yet? I know you could put an aftermarket gauge and sender in. But, I think that just buying the capilary tube would be alot cheaper.

Later.

Ken S.

coachgeo · 09-18-2002, 07:21 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by unimogken
Have you contacted any of the Unimog part dealers yet? I know you could put an aftermarket gauge and sender in. But, I think that just buying the capilary tube would be alot cheaper.

Later.

Ken S.

Sorry I was out of town.. I just posted it. The year of 404 I suspect is going to be asked.

unimogken · 09-18-2002, 08:22 AM

Huh?

Your response with my post quoted didn't make any sense.

Later.

Ken S.

coachgeo · 09-18-2002, 09:02 AM

My morning eyes mushed yours and Puffs message together.

coachgeo · 09-18-2002, 09:11 AM

From the Mog Tech mail list

The original unit is with the capillary filled with alcohol.
Perhaps one of our US contacts have them, or contact
Frank Flick or Merex in old germany.
I found (down here) an electriv 12V replacement.
Fits good in the place. Brand is "Farias".
Installed a new 12V line to a relais that switched with
the ignition.
Saludos,
ß
Bernardo, VE, 404S 3D 1957 DoKa

coachgeo · 09-18-2002, 07:21 PM

From the Mogtech mail list

"Hello K.C.

The busted capillary tube means the end of the road for that gauge. Get out
billfold.

I installed a VDO electric temperature gauge. Temperature gauge, sender,
adapter ring: VDO 310-080, 323-416, 600-851.
Source: www.egauges.com Of course there are lots of sources.

The threads measure 14 x 1.5 (metric) for the sensor, and this new one will
screw right in.

To use the gauge on 24 v either buy the voltage reducer offered by VDO or use
about 166 Ohms external resistor (I used 2 x 63 Ohms in series) gives right
voltage drop with 80 to 100 ma current required (measured at 12 vdc).

Get a 24 volt bulb for the meter.

The mounting hole diameter is 58 mm so use the spacer to get the 2 1/16" meter
to fit.

Bob

Littleton, CO"

coachgeo · 09-19-2002, 07:51 PM

Option two from the Mog Tech folk..

Just order a new gauge from Scott Ingham. About $72 and he'll get it right out
to you. You can't just order the capillary tube, because it's a sealed unit.

When you get the new one, you don't need to drain your coolant. Put the new
gauge in the dash and run the capillary down near the block where you'll need to
insert it. Just unscrew the old unit from the block and stick the new one in.
You'll only lose about 1/4 cup of coolant.

Link to Scott Ingrams parts place to follow soon.

coachgeo · 09-20-2002, 07:30 PM

http://www.expedition-imports.com/

Mog parts extourdinair (sp?) and west coast

09-13-2002, 05:45 PM	#1 (permalink)
Puffdragon Registered User Join Date: Sep 2002 Member # 13683 Location: Unknown Posts: 3,192	404 temp sender Hey guys, most of you dont seem to be mog owners, but i am sure some of you are. My problem is that I broke the capillary for my temp gauge. even though my mog has never overheated, I would like to know its temp from time to time. So does anybody know if a generic temp sender will fit in the mog block. Since my truck is a rockcrawler and not a show truck, I dont care about the gauges being the same. thanks guys. K.c. carpenter __________________ K.C.

09-15-2002, 08:36 PM	#2 (permalink)
coachgeo Registered User Join Date: Jan 2001 Member # 2708 Location: Pilot Point Tx Posts: 2,912	do u have a 404, 416, U 1300... what Mog temp sender. Yeah I got a Mog. __________________ It's a Daimler thing: You wouldnt understand! [i]"I work on a fishing boat. I started as a Apprentice Baiter. Now I am a Journeyman baiter. One day I hope to make Master Baiter". (By DEnd)[/i]

09-16-2002, 08:09 AM	#3 (permalink)
Puffdragon Registered User Join Date: Sep 2002 Member # 13683 Location: Unknown Posts: 3,192	the title of the tread said 404 temp sender But seriously, its a 404. I am assuming its a standard gauge. The gauge is fine, but I broke the capillary. __________________ K.C.

09-16-2002, 08:28 AM	#4 (permalink)
unimogken snatch cannon Join Date: May 2002 Member # 11745 Location: Redmond, WA Posts: 1,211	Have you contacted any of the Unimog part dealers yet? I know you could put an aftermarket gauge and sender in. But, I think that just buying the capilary tube would be alot cheaper. Later. Ken S. __________________ Later, Ken 1 Mercedes Benz Unimog 404s

09-18-2002, 08:22 AM	#6 (permalink)
unimogken snatch cannon Join Date: May 2002 Member # 11745 Location: Redmond, WA Posts: 1,211	Huh? Your response with my post quoted didn't make any sense. Later. Ken S. __________________ Later, Ken 1 Mercedes Benz Unimog 404s

09-18-2002, 09:02 AM	#7 (permalink)
coachgeo Registered User Join Date: Jan 2001 Member # 2708 Location: Pilot Point Tx Posts: 2,912	Sorry Ken My morning eyes mushed yours and Puffs message together. __________________ It's a Daimler thing: You wouldnt understand! [i]"I work on a fishing boat. I started as a Apprentice Baiter. Now I am a Journeyman baiter. One day I hope to make Master Baiter". (By DEnd)[/i]

09-18-2002, 09:11 AM	#8 (permalink)
coachgeo Registered User Join Date: Jan 2001 Member # 2708 Location: Pilot Point Tx Posts: 2,912	Electric or Capillary From the Mog Tech mail list The original unit is with the capillary filled with alcohol. Perhaps one of our US contacts have them, or contact Frank Flick or Merex in old germany. I found (down here) an electriv 12V replacement. Fits good in the place. Brand is "Farias". Installed a new 12V line to a relais that switched with the ignition. Saludos, ß Bernardo, VE, 404S 3D 1957 DoKa __________________ It's a Daimler thing: You wouldnt understand! [i]"I work on a fishing boat. I started as a Apprentice Baiter. Now I am a Journeyman baiter. One day I hope to make Master Baiter". (By DEnd)[/i]

09-18-2002, 07:21 PM	#9 (permalink)
coachgeo Registered User Join Date: Jan 2001 Member # 2708 Location: Pilot Point Tx Posts: 2,912	ahhhh .. finally good tech for ya From the Mogtech mail list "Hello K.C. The busted capillary tube means the end of the road for that gauge. Get out billfold. I installed a VDO electric temperature gauge. Temperature gauge, sender, adapter ring: VDO 310-080, 323-416, 600-851. Source: www.egauges.com Of course there are lots of sources. The threads measure 14 x 1.5 (metric) for the sensor, and this new one will screw right in. To use the gauge on 24 v either buy the voltage reducer offered by VDO or use about 166 Ohms external resistor (I used 2 x 63 Ohms in series) gives right voltage drop with 80 to 100 ma current required (measured at 12 vdc). Get a 24 volt bulb for the meter. The mounting hole diameter is 58 mm so use the spacer to get the 2 1/16" meter to fit. Bob Littleton, CO" __________________ It's a Daimler thing: You wouldnt understand! [i]"I work on a fishing boat. I started as a Apprentice Baiter. Now I am a Journeyman baiter. One day I hope to make Master Baiter". (By DEnd)[/i]

09-19-2002, 07:51 PM	#10 (permalink)
coachgeo Registered User Join Date: Jan 2001 Member # 2708 Location: Pilot Point Tx Posts: 2,912	another option for ya Option two from the Mog Tech folk.. Just order a new gauge from Scott Ingham. About $72 and he'll get it right out to you. You can't just order the capillary tube, because it's a sealed unit. When you get the new one, you don't need to drain your coolant. Put the new gauge in the dash and run the capillary down near the block where you'll need to insert it. Just unscrew the old unit from the block and stick the new one in. You'll only lose about 1/4 cup of coolant. Link to Scott Ingrams parts place to follow soon. __________________ It's a Daimler thing: You wouldnt understand! [i]"I work on a fishing boat. I started as a Apprentice Baiter. Now I am a Journeyman baiter. One day I hope to make Master Baiter". (By DEnd)[/i]

09-20-2002, 07:30 PM	#11 (permalink)
coachgeo Registered User Join Date: Jan 2001 Member # 2708 Location: Pilot Point Tx Posts: 2,912	Scott Ingrahm addy http://www.expedition-imports.com/ Mog parts extourdinair (sp?) and west coast __________________ It's a Daimler thing: You wouldnt understand! [i]"I work on a fishing boat. I started as a Apprentice Baiter. Now I am a Journeyman baiter. One day I hope to make Master Baiter". (By DEnd)[/i]

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