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Puffdragon · 10-05-2002, 05:26 PM

Ok, this is for guys running true Unimogs mainly 404's but any will do, no buggys or anything as they are not the same geometry. What kind of suspension changes have you made. New springs shocks etc. How about amount of lift added. I ask, because most of you sound like you run stock run of the mill mogs, but I am sure there are a few of you that have changed a few things. I personally like the fact that my Mog is basically stock, minus the springs and shocks, and a custom bed and roll cage.

I run a relatively stock 404

As for my suspension, I was running the stock springs, with Rancho RS9000 #9012 in the rear, and stock shocks in the front. How ever, I recently moved the rear stock springs to the front, and converted the rear to LR springs. the LR springs are 3+ lift medium duty springs, that I think are rated at 225lbs. the rear feels like a real truck now, but it seems a little to soft, with as much weight as I have on the back side. I still need to reduce the spring rate of the front springs as well. I have dealt with a few people on this subjset, but most are not to helpfull. Any body have any ideas of the spring rates of stock radio body springs. I have thought about using some Jeep Coils from the rear of a new model jeep, probably the maximum lift I can find. It almost looks like they would bolt into the stock spring locks. I had a set of stock Jeep springs to try, but I tossed them before I got a chance to see if the coil was tight enough for the Unimog spring retainers.

Anywho, if any of you have any ideas, or have done any spring swaps etc, let me know

K.C. Carpenter

coachgeo · 10-05-2002, 07:32 PM

I thought I heard someone say they were running TJ springs, but to be honest I think that was a stripped down mog for rockcrawling.

AGGIE_04 · 10-05-2002, 07:45 PM

Here's a guy running 4" TJ coils and his setup looks pretty good:

http://www.unimogvideo.com/tyson%20specs.htm

Another guy on there is running Areostar coils on the back, but they look a little soft.

coachgeo · 10-05-2002, 07:59 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by AGGIE_04
Here's a guy running 4" TJ coils and his setup looks pretty good:

http://www.unimogvideo.com/tyson%20specs.htm

Another guy on there is running Areostar coils on the back, but they look a little soft.

Thats the one I saw too.. TJ springos

Puffdragon · 10-06-2002, 09:29 AM

I looked at a set of aerostar coils, but I was not impressed, and did not bother getting them. But does anybody know the spring rate of the TJ coils, or should I go to the jeep forum. I would say my rover springs are a bit soft, but TJ coils might be just as bad. Anybody ride in this Mog on TJ coils. And is he claiming that the springs are 4" lift for a TJ, or 4" lift for the MOG. I am around 3" of lift right now.

unimogken · 10-06-2002, 09:52 AM

A local friend of mine has taken off his springs and shocks and now uses King Coil Shocks and they work great !

Later.

Ken S.

Puffdragon · 10-06-2002, 02:31 PM

yea, I wish I had the cash for KING COILOVERS, but man they get expensive fast. I run FOX 2.0 air shock/spring on my bronco, but it is much lighter than a MOG, and the air shocks would be way to soft.

unimogken · 10-06-2002, 03:32 PM

Yes, they did cost him a pretty penny. But he says that he is very happy with them.

Later.

Ken S.

unissamog · 10-07-2002, 07:00 AM

as far as rover coils go, I would get a set from Rovertym, they can have a set custom wound to your specifications.

m016324 · 10-07-2002, 01:50 PM

the ones on his truck are rovertym springs 3+ but they are light for his truck he also had to adapt the spring perches for it to work properly and I think he was trying to avoid that again. Also he's a cheap bastard and although rovertym springs aren't that expensive tj coils are less and aerostar's are even less than that personally I think you should stack two aerostar coils and weld them together then weld them top and bottom to the perches see how that does for ya

-ben

10-05-2002, 05:26 PM	#1 (permalink)
Puffdragon Registered User Join Date: Sep 2002 Member # 13683 Location: Unknown Posts: 3,190	Mog Suspension Ok, this is for guys running true Unimogs mainly 404's but any will do, no buggys or anything as they are not the same geometry. What kind of suspension changes have you made. New springs shocks etc. How about amount of lift added. I ask, because most of you sound like you run stock run of the mill mogs, but I am sure there are a few of you that have changed a few things. I personally like the fact that my Mog is basically stock, minus the springs and shocks, and a custom bed and roll cage. I run a relatively stock 404 As for my suspension, I was running the stock springs, with Rancho RS9000 #9012 in the rear, and stock shocks in the front. How ever, I recently moved the rear stock springs to the front, and converted the rear to LR springs. the LR springs are 3+ lift medium duty springs, that I think are rated at 225lbs. the rear feels like a real truck now, but it seems a little to soft, with as much weight as I have on the back side. I still need to reduce the spring rate of the front springs as well. I have dealt with a few people on this subjset, but most are not to helpfull. Any body have any ideas of the spring rates of stock radio body springs. I have thought about using some Jeep Coils from the rear of a new model jeep, probably the maximum lift I can find. It almost looks like they would bolt into the stock spring locks. I had a set of stock Jeep springs to try, but I tossed them before I got a chance to see if the coil was tight enough for the Unimog spring retainers. Anywho, if any of you have any ideas, or have done any spring swaps etc, let me know K.C. Carpenter __________________ K.C.

10-05-2002, 07:32 PM	#2 (permalink)
coachgeo Registered User Join Date: Jan 2001 Member # 2708 Location: Pilot Point Tx Posts: 2,912	springs I thought I heard someone say they were running TJ springs, but to be honest I think that was a stripped down mog for rockcrawling. __________________ It's a Daimler thing: You wouldnt understand! [i]"I work on a fishing boat. I started as a Apprentice Baiter. Now I am a Journeyman baiter. One day I hope to make Master Baiter". (By DEnd)[/i]

10-05-2002, 07:45 PM	#3 (permalink)
AGGIE_04 Registered User Join Date: Jan 2002 Member # 9502 Location: College Station, TX Posts: 173	Here's a guy running 4" TJ coils and his setup looks pretty good: http://www.unimogvideo.com/tyson%20specs.htm Another guy on there is running Areostar coils on the back, but they look a little soft. __________________ '85 F-250 '65 Unimog http://community.webshots.com/user/rexhaber

10-06-2002, 09:29 AM	#5 (permalink)
Puffdragon Registered User Join Date: Sep 2002 Member # 13683 Location: Unknown Posts: 3,190	I looked at a set of aerostar coils, but I was not impressed, and did not bother getting them. But does anybody know the spring rate of the TJ coils, or should I go to the jeep forum. I would say my rover springs are a bit soft, but TJ coils might be just as bad. Anybody ride in this Mog on TJ coils. And is he claiming that the springs are 4" lift for a TJ, or 4" lift for the MOG. I am around 3" of lift right now. __________________ K.C.

10-06-2002, 09:52 AM	#6 (permalink)
unimogken snatch cannon Join Date: May 2002 Member # 11745 Location: Redmond, WA Posts: 1,211	A local friend of mine has taken off his springs and shocks and now uses King Coil Shocks and they work great ! Later. Ken S. __________________ Later, Ken 1 Mercedes Benz Unimog 404s

10-06-2002, 02:31 PM	#7 (permalink)
Puffdragon Registered User Join Date: Sep 2002 Member # 13683 Location: Unknown Posts: 3,190	yea, I wish I had the cash for KING COILOVERS, but man they get expensive fast. I run FOX 2.0 air shock/spring on my bronco, but it is much lighter than a MOG, and the air shocks would be way to soft. __________________ K.C.

10-06-2002, 03:32 PM	#8 (permalink)
unimogken snatch cannon Join Date: May 2002 Member # 11745 Location: Redmond, WA Posts: 1,211	Yes, they did cost him a pretty penny. But he says that he is very happy with them. Later. Ken S. __________________ Later, Ken 1 Mercedes Benz Unimog 404s

10-07-2002, 07:00 AM	#9 (permalink)
unissamog Registered User Join Date: May 2002 Member # 11729 Location: Perkinsville Vermont Posts: 283	as far as rover coils go, I would get a set from Rovertym, they can have a set custom wound to your specifications. __________________ I got your jeep thing, now it hurts when I pee.

10-07-2002, 01:50 PM	#10 (permalink)
m016324 Registered User Join Date: Apr 2002 Member # 11256 Location: San Antonio Posts: 1,779	the ones on his truck are rovertym springs 3+ but they are light for his truck he also had to adapt the spring perches for it to work properly and I think he was trying to avoid that again. Also he's a cheap bastard and although rovertym springs aren't that expensive tj coils are less and aerostar's are even less than that personally I think you should stack two aerostar coils and weld them together then weld them top and bottom to the perches see how that does for ya -ben

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