Can stock 404 hubs be modified to 8 lug? - Pirate4x4.Com : 4x4 and Off-Road Forum

weps · 11-26-2002, 07:14 PM

Can the stock hubs be turned down, and the radius be removed to allow re-drilling of the 8 on 6.5" pattern? I have seen Wolfgangs new hubs, and they are great, but turning down what I already have seems a nicer price (for me)

MOGXJ44 · 11-26-2002, 07:58 PM

Are you gonna put different drums on it? The stock drums can't be redrilled. 8 on 6.5" will put the radius center of the bolt pattern right on the edge of the hub. Hub measures 6-5/16".
Travis

cruiserrg · 11-26-2002, 09:53 PM

I don't know if machining the hub down to 8 lug would work. It probably can be done, but to fit a caliper and rotor that close the the gearhousing is tough.

I am actually thinking of having a adapter ring made to get to 8 lug and space it enough to allow rotor and caliper to not hit the housing.

I will be interested in other replies as I am looking to do something simular.

weps · 11-27-2002, 05:31 AM

1990JeepXJ- I hope you do not mind that I hijacked one of your pics

I planned on losing the drums with the re-drill by mounting disc rotors to the back side. The stock chevy 3/4 ton 4x4 rotors have about a 1 1/2" offset/spacer on them already. I think we all know what area I am referring to, see pic http://www.weps.alloffroad.com/whats_new.html

I am ASSuming they are Steel, not cast hubs......

cruiserrg · 11-27-2002, 08:02 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by weps
1990JeepXJ- I hope you do not mind that I hijacked one of your pics I planned on losing the drums with the re-drill by mounting disc rotors to the back side. The stock chevy 3/4 ton 4x4 rotors have about a 1 1/2" offset/spacer on them already. I think we all know what area I am referring to, see pic http://www.weps.alloffroad.com/whats_new.html

I am ASSuming they are Steel, not cast hubs......

I know there is not enough space to mount a rotor behind the stock hub. There is maybe 1/2" or less between the back side of the hub and the gearhousing.

siebert · 11-27-2002, 09:26 AM

You have to space out the rotor away from the portal as it won't fit over the portal behind the hub.

A spacer is a better idea. It could match the 6 bolt pattern on one side and match the 8 bolt pattern on the other.

I have made a new hub for mine. I will post some pics when I have access to a digital camera. It spaces the rotor away from the portal about 3.5 inches. I used ford unit bearing rotors which fit over top of the hub instead of behind and lets me run those cheap $20 GM calipers.

MOGXJ44 · 11-27-2002, 01:31 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by siebert
A spacer is a better idea. It could match the 6 bolt pattern on one side and match the 8 bolt pattern on the other.

I have this drawn up somewhere on my computer using Autodesk Inventor 5. I'll try to find it when I get back from stuffing my face this weekend.

Travis

weps · 11-27-2002, 06:19 PM

Thanks for the info guys, I was thinking the way I was simply from seeing Wolfgangs new hub and some disc conversion pics from Ryeguys site. As always, nothing is quite as simple as it looks

Siebert, I like the sound of your setup. I could make my own hubs, but cannot broach the splines in them.. I am leaning towards Hummer rims now FWIW...

11-26-2002, 07:14 PM	#1 (permalink)
weps Registered User Join Date: Feb 2002 Member # 10290 Location: Northeast Indiana Posts: 1,205	Can stock 404 hubs be modified to 8 lug? Can the stock hubs be turned down, and the radius be removed to allow re-drilling of the 8 on 6.5" pattern? I have seen Wolfgangs new hubs, and they are great, but turning down what I already have seems a nicer price (for me)

11-26-2002, 07:58 PM	#2 (permalink)
MOGXJ44 Registered User Join Date: Mar 2002 Member # 10366 Location: Aloha, OR Posts: 951	Are you gonna put different drums on it? The stock drums can't be redrilled. 8 on 6.5" will put the radius center of the bolt pattern right on the edge of the hub. Hub measures 6-5/16". Travis Attached Images

11-26-2002, 09:53 PM	#3 (permalink)
cruiserrg Registered User Join Date: Jun 2001 Member # 4961 Location: Mankato, MN USA Posts: 867	I don't know if machining the hub down to 8 lug would work. It probably can be done, but to fit a caliper and rotor that close the the gearhousing is tough. I am actually thinking of having a adapter ring made to get to 8 lug and space it enough to allow rotor and caliper to not hit the housing. I will be interested in other replies as I am looking to do something simular. __________________ Reuben Gosewisch AKA: cruiserrg See pics of my Tube Chassised, MOG axled rockcrawler project: [url="http://webpages.charter.net/cruiserrg/toypuproject.html"]CruiserProject[/url] Wisconsin Off Highway Vehicle Association Webmaster: [url="http://www.wohva.com"]www.wohva.com[/url] Midwest 4 Wheel Drive Association Webmaster: [url="http://www.mw4wda.org"]www.mw4wda.org[/url]

11-27-2002, 05:31 AM	#4 (permalink)
weps Registered User Join Date: Feb 2002 Member # 10290 Location: Northeast Indiana Posts: 1,205	1990JeepXJ- I hope you do not mind that I hijacked one of your pics I planned on losing the drums with the re-drill by mounting disc rotors to the back side. The stock chevy 3/4 ton 4x4 rotors have about a 1 1/2" offset/spacer on them already. I think we all know what area I am referring to, see pic http://www.weps.alloffroad.com/whats_new.html I am ASSuming they are Steel, not cast hubs...... Last edited by weps; 11-27-2002 at 05:37 AM.

11-27-2002, 09:26 AM	#6 (permalink)
siebert Registered User Join Date: Aug 2002 Member # 13214 Location: British Columbia Posts: 92	You have to space out the rotor away from the portal as it won't fit over the portal behind the hub. A spacer is a better idea. It could match the 6 bolt pattern on one side and match the 8 bolt pattern on the other. I have made a new hub for mine. I will post some pics when I have access to a digital camera. It spaces the rotor away from the portal about 3.5 inches. I used ford unit bearing rotors which fit over top of the hub instead of behind and lets me run those cheap $20 GM calipers. __________________ 1987 YJ-Supercharged 350 TBI/NV4500/homeade KLUNE/flipped 300/Mog 9s/3 link front/four link rear/37 IROKS

11-27-2002, 06:19 PM	#8 (permalink)
weps Registered User Join Date: Feb 2002 Member # 10290 Location: Northeast Indiana Posts: 1,205	Thanks for the info guys, I was thinking the way I was simply from seeing Wolfgangs new hub and some disc conversion pics from Ryeguys site. As always, nothing is quite as simple as it looks Siebert, I like the sound of your setup. I could make my own hubs, but cannot broach the splines in them.. I am leaning towards Hummer rims now FWIW...

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