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Old 11-29-2002, 06:33 AM   #1 (permalink)
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OK.. THIS THREAD NEEDS TO END NOW.

I allowed its existence because I saw potential discussions developing on importing Mogs that are less than 25years old. I think it has served it's task in that respect.

Since NO ADVERTISEMENTS by Vendors are allowed on PBB and the Doka's in question are now listed on Wolfgang’s site as items for sale then this thread must end.

Thank you for those that responded with information on importing Mogs.

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If you have any interest in a Mog Purchase you can contact either of the Vendors who have offered information in this thread I'm sure they will work with you on becomming a MOG owner!

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Today i found this 84 Doka Mog. There are 5 of them available.
If someone is interested or has some tech. questions, let me know.

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Old 11-29-2002, 09:41 AM   #2 (permalink)
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mmmmmm Doka 406...

too bad they couldnt be imported
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???? Why not???
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Old 11-29-2002, 11:20 AM   #4 (permalink)
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25 years old

84 Mog will not pass emisions, unless you update the system and get NHTSA to test it for compatability. Your talking lots of time and big $$$.

It can be imported for "off road" use only.

You can import things 25years old or older easier cause they are smog exempt
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Pardon my ignorance, But is a DOKA designed to tow aircraft an an airport, or is it the cab design? Cool either way!
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Pardon my ignorance, But is a DOKA designed to tow aircraft an an airport, or is it the cab design? Cool either way!
Mog's are designed for everything... This one is the Generic cab. bumper and rear deck use varries per intended use.

Check out the one (not doka) on Ebay that is a hauler. Sorry I dont have time to find the link at the moment. Just search Ebay's advanced search for Unimog. Make sure you say to exclude"diecast" so you dont get all the little diecast models that are on Ebay too.
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Old 11-30-2002, 12:20 AM   #7 (permalink)
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DOKA means "Doppelkabine", the same like Crewcab.
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Old 12-01-2002, 09:40 AM   #8 (permalink)
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Import? no problem! It´s easy
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Ok Wolfgang, how easy is it to import a mog like the 84's you found? I've been interested for some time now, but hear a lot of horror stories about cost. Stateside sales seem like the middle man is getting the money I could be using for a better Mog. I would like to find out more about importing from an individual who has actually been through this, rather than be put off with more sided opinions from stateside sales who are out for their share of my hard earned cash. I know the later models are for off road use only, but aren't tractors road legal with proper slow moving vehicle warning signs? I think so. I sure would like to have one.
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Ok Wolfgang, how easy is it to import a mog like the 84's you found? I've been interested for some time now, but hear a lot of horror stories about cost. Stateside sales seem like the middle man is getting the money I could be using for a better Mog. I would like to find out more about importing from an individual who has actually been through this, rather than be put off with more sided opinions from stateside sales who are out for their share of my hard earned cash. I know the later models are for off road use only, but aren't tractors road legal with proper slow moving vehicle warning signs? I think so. I sure would like to have one.
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Middle man? Often the Only middle man between the dealer and the seller over seas is US customs and the shipping company. 1200 buks is common cost of the two put together.
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how much would it cost to get one of those in my hands?
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The ocean freight (roll on/roll off) to the east coast would be around 1200USD. The custom´s will charge you for the amount on the invoice !?
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I'd love to know how much for one of those, my wife might let me do it if the price were right... Thanks
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how much ? MODERATOR NOTE

Shop the various Mog dealers.. see RMM web site for address (I'll include link later) for price comparison.

(update- http://www.rockymountainmoggers.com/links.html )

If you are intersted in buying from a vedor that is helpful to tech on this site; something I hope you will do, then please email and or PM them directly. Sales pitches and negotiations needs to be conducted off board.
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Hi 48Stude,

The stateside dealers out for your hard earned cash have usually spent many years developing their "system" of logistics and importation for their specific area.

You too have the same access to this type of information. A good starting point to do your homework would be:

http://www.customs.ustreas.gov/impoexpo/impoexpo.htm

Some of the issues that you will want answers to prior to importing will be:

Tariff Classification of the Vehicle - This determines some of your costs. Will your vehicle be 2.5% duty or 25% duty. A start for this issue is here:

http://dataweb.usitc.gov/SCRIPTS/tariff/toc.html

U.S. EPA Compliance - Is it gas or diesel, whats the GVW, is it exempt?

U.S. DOT Compliance - does this vehicle meet U.S. standards, does it have to meet U.S. standards?

U.S. Dept. of Agriculture Compliance - Where did the vehicle come from

Customs Entry Compliance - is the shipment a Formal or Informal entry?

Customs Bond Requirements - is a customs bond required for this vehicle? For this entry?

Customs Broker Usage - Can you clear the entry through customs yourself, or is a customs broker required?

Local State Compliance - Once you have met the federal regulations to import the vehicle, you need to meet your state guidelines to register the vehicle. Registering in Georgia, is a lot different than what will be required in California.

When dealing with the freight company ask about the additional expenses:

Bunker Adjustment Factor
Terminal Handling Charges
Document Processing Fees

This week we got hit on the West Coast with 2 new ones:
U.S. West Coast Congestion Surcharge - $220
Panama Canal Surcharge - $100

Anyone can successfully import with the right amount of research. Don't be surprised if you don't find many dealers willing to freely give out the information that is the basis of their profession. Although.....you might find a better chance at getting answers to some of your questions by contacting a dealer directly via the phone.

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Thank you Scott. I'm learning, slow but sure and thanks go out to everyone else for their helpful info. I'm going to try the sites you recomended. Wolfgang - I'll be getting back with you on your offer of assistance
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You can get the DOKA Mog with a California title.

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Importing a DOKA - Post-25 year exemption

The only way to bring a DoKA or any other Post 25 year exemption is to either get the vehicle incompliance through an approved DOT/EPA shop (getting a 416 or 406 to comply with EPA/DOT standards cannot be done essentially). Or bring it in for Off Road Useage/Agricultural/FOrestry useage only.


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