Dana 300 Big Shaft Kit - Pirate4x4.Com : 4x4 and Off-Road Forum

Keith Bailey · 03-12-2003, 06:46 PM

Introducing the all new Dana 300 Heavy Duty 32 Spline Output Shaft Kit! Precision machined from heat-treated Aluminum Alloy and its designed to accept transfer case e-brake bracket, rotor and caliper.

Check out the web site! Remember...make it BIG!

Dana 300 Big Shaft Kit Made in the

camo · 03-12-2003, 08:36 PM

i don't know much about 300's but that looks like a good thing

TJ Fan · 03-12-2003, 10:09 PM

So...just curious...any difference between yours and the Advance Adapters units (or are they one in the same

)

Keith Bailey · 03-13-2003, 10:01 AM

Please go to the Vendors showcase which shows the differences between my big shaft kit and others. Thanks

Keith Bailey · 03-13-2003, 10:03 AM

Or you can click on the link Make your Shaft Big Under my name

Old Scout · 03-13-2003, 11:48 AM

$?$?$?

Keith Bailey · 03-13-2003, 02:34 PM

They're going for $490 Retail. Call or email for other pricing. Our email is here.

Jeepskickass · 03-13-2003, 06:44 PM

So will this work on short 300s, or just the long shafts?

onetoncv · 03-13-2003, 08:33 PM

i'm thinking someone needs to make the 32 spline front output a little more- but its a nice looking kit- Jesse

Keith Bailey · 03-14-2003, 09:13 AM

Hey the output shaft will be available through JB Conversions and also the kit only works for the long shaft but I will ship you a Dana 300 with the short shaft installed for $700.00. Then you could sell your old one to make up some of the cost.
Thanks
Keith

v6toy4x · 03-16-2003, 05:45 PM

nice piece I just wish I could have waited but I had to go AA

onetoncv · 03-16-2003, 09:03 PM

Just wondering is yours any different /better than advance addapters- ? and your flange we talked about I hope its not just like mine- (Patented ) Jesse

themaddhatter · 03-17-2003, 04:57 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Keith Bailey
Precision machined from heat-treated Aluminum Alloy

So, this heavy duty 32 spline shaft that is made from aluminium is somehow STRONGER? than a similar sized steel shaft?

I guess that metallurgy has change a lot since my classes in the 90s

Goods nice though

Keith Bailey · 03-23-2003, 07:05 AM

The housing is heat treated aluminum; the shaft is 8620 heat treated alloy.

The AA kit is a good kit and we don't know of any failures. We feel our kit is better for the following reasons.

Keith Bailey · 03-23-2003, 07:08 AM

The AA housing is not designed for the attachment of an ebrake. Our housing is beefed up heavily to handle the load generated by the use of ebrake components. The result is a stronger housing.

Keith Bailey · 03-23-2003, 07:22 AM

We also spot machine each bolt seat location so the bolt head pulls down level on the housing and doesn't create stress that could crack the housing. The "draft" required to allow the part to release from the mold causes the casting to made with a slanted surface here (ours and theirs). This results in the bolts making point contact instead of flat contact. With our spot face, the point contact never happens.

We also use an aluminum match-plate mold instead of a wood/sand combo. This is a fully machined mold that yields a precise casting. Look at the edges and corners of our housing and you can see the difference (1st four photos attached). You can also see the two dowel pin holes used in conjunction with 6 tapered head cap screws to secure the ebrake bracket.

Keith Bailey · 03-23-2003, 07:22 AM

Photo 2

Keith Bailey · 03-23-2003, 07:24 AM

Photo #3

Keith Bailey · 03-23-2003, 07:24 AM

Photo #4

Keith Bailey · 03-23-2003, 07:28 AM

Our housing (bottom) has a much more massive casting as you can see here in a comparison of the top of each piece.

We also use an angled drill on the CNC to create the vent/drain back hole. We don't drill through from the outside and fill the hole with a push-plug. Look at the upper side of the competitors housing and you will see the cap plug siliconed in place.

Keith Bailey · 03-23-2003, 07:30 AM

We go all-out on the shaft also. The shaft on the right is ours. We fully grind the shaft except of areas with splines. We pay attention to machining detail and make sure the spline runout doesn't get into areas of the shaft not meant for splining. You will notice no spline cuts below the lower snap ring on our shaft.

Keith Bailey · 03-23-2003, 07:33 AM

Any area of the shaft that contacts a gear is precision ground on our shaft. The shaft on the right is ours. You will notice a grinded seat area above the lower clutch spline on our shaft. This is the area where the helical gear contacts during operation. We grind the surface within 0.0005" to provide a smooth seat for the gear.

Raiderj056 · 03-23-2003, 11:05 AM

Quote:

Just wondering is yours any different /better than advance addapters- ? and your flange we talked about I hope its not just like mine- (Patented ) Jesse

Uhhmm, yes and no from the way things look. Looks better, actually.

onetoncv · 03-23-2003, 08:04 PM

well yours does seem to be thought out - and seems swell -but if there was a large/any problem with aa's breaking- wearing/distorting /anything of this nature - then i see a need- ??? Have not seen any of the sort going on- nice to have a competitor for aa- Jesse

cmk · 03-23-2003, 09:23 PM

So, it's a "me too, better."

... nuthin' wrong with that.

... except I need one for a short tail d300.

cm "I got $500 burnin' a hole in my pocket if you can make it work with a flipped short tail d300." k

03-12-2003, 06:46 PM	#1 (permalink)
Keith Bailey Registered User Join Date: Mar 2003 Member # 17794 Location: Alabama Posts: 20	Dana 300 Big Shaft Kit Introducing the all new Dana 300 Heavy Duty 32 Spline Output Shaft Kit! Precision machined from heat-treated Aluminum Alloy and its designed to accept transfer case e-brake bracket, rotor and caliper. Check out the web site! Remember...make it BIG! Dana 300 Big Shaft Kit Made in the __________________ Keith Bailey The Offroad Connection [URL=http://www.grayrockorv.com]Gray Rock ORV[/URL] [URL=http://www.onetime4xproducts.com]Make Your Shaft Big![/URL]

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Keith Bailey Registered User Join Date: Mar 2003 Member # 17794 Location: Alabama Posts: 20	Please go to the Vendors showcase which shows the differences between my big shaft kit and others. Thanks __________________ Keith Bailey The Offroad Connection [URL=http://www.grayrockorv.com]Gray Rock ORV[/URL] [URL=http://www.onetime4xproducts.com]Make Your Shaft Big![/URL]

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Keith Bailey Registered User Join Date: Mar 2003 Member # 17794 Location: Alabama Posts: 20	Or you can click on the link Make your Shaft Big Under my name __________________ Keith Bailey The Offroad Connection [URL=http://www.grayrockorv.com]Gray Rock ORV[/URL] [URL=http://www.onetime4xproducts.com]Make Your Shaft Big![/URL]

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03-12-2003, 08:36 PM	#2 (permalink)
camo No comment Join Date: Mar 2000 Member # 4 Location: Rubicon Posts: 27,056 Blog Entries: 1	i don't know much about 300's but that looks like a good thing

03-13-2003, 02:34 PM	#7 (permalink)
Keith Bailey Registered User Join Date: Mar 2003 Member # 17794 Location: Alabama Posts: 20	$?$?$ They're going for $490 Retail. Call or email for other pricing. Our email is here. __________________ Keith Bailey The Offroad Connection [URL=http://www.grayrockorv.com]Gray Rock ORV[/URL] [URL=http://www.onetime4xproducts.com]Make Your Shaft Big![/URL]

03-13-2003, 06:44 PM	#8 (permalink)
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03-13-2003, 08:33 PM	#9 (permalink)
onetoncv Pirate4x4 Addict! Join Date: Nov 2000 Member # 2160 Location: Paradise , ca Posts: 9,509	i'm thinking someone needs to make the 32 spline front output a little more- but its a nice looking kit- Jesse __________________ http://highangledriveline.com Bringing Innovation to the market ! http://highangledriveline.com/HAD1.gif 530-877-2875 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Last edited by onetoncv; 03-14-2003 at 08:22 AM.

03-14-2003, 09:13 AM	#10 (permalink)
Keith Bailey Registered User Join Date: Mar 2003 Member # 17794 Location: Alabama Posts: 20	Hey the output shaft will be available through JB Conversions and also the kit only works for the long shaft but I will ship you a Dana 300 with the short shaft installed for $700.00. Then you could sell your old one to make up some of the cost. Thanks Keith __________________ Keith Bailey The Offroad Connection [URL=http://www.grayrockorv.com]Gray Rock ORV[/URL] [URL=http://www.onetime4xproducts.com]Make Your Shaft Big![/URL]

03-16-2003, 05:45 PM	#11 (permalink)
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03-16-2003, 09:03 PM	#12 (permalink)
onetoncv Pirate4x4 Addict! Join Date: Nov 2000 Member # 2160 Location: Paradise , ca Posts: 9,509	Just wondering is yours any different /better than advance addapters- ? and your flange we talked about I hope its not just like mine- (Patented ) Jesse __________________ http://highangledriveline.com Bringing Innovation to the market ! http://highangledriveline.com/HAD1.gif 530-877-2875 --------------------------------------------------------------------------------

03-23-2003, 07:05 AM	#14 (permalink)
Keith Bailey Registered User Join Date: Mar 2003 Member # 17794 Location: Alabama Posts: 20	Big Shaft Kit The housing is heat treated aluminum; the shaft is 8620 heat treated alloy. The AA kit is a good kit and we don't know of any failures. We feel our kit is better for the following reasons. Attached Images __________________ Keith Bailey The Offroad Connection [URL=http://www.grayrockorv.com]Gray Rock ORV[/URL] [URL=http://www.onetime4xproducts.com]Make Your Shaft Big![/URL]

03-23-2003, 07:08 AM	#15 (permalink)
Keith Bailey Registered User Join Date: Mar 2003 Member # 17794 Location: Alabama Posts: 20	The AA housing is not designed for the attachment of an ebrake. Our housing is beefed up heavily to handle the load generated by the use of ebrake components. The result is a stronger housing. __________________ Keith Bailey The Offroad Connection [URL=http://www.grayrockorv.com]Gray Rock ORV[/URL] [URL=http://www.onetime4xproducts.com]Make Your Shaft Big![/URL]

03-23-2003, 07:22 AM	#16 (permalink)
Keith Bailey Registered User Join Date: Mar 2003 Member # 17794 Location: Alabama Posts: 20	We also spot machine each bolt seat location so the bolt head pulls down level on the housing and doesn't create stress that could crack the housing. The "draft" required to allow the part to release from the mold causes the casting to made with a slanted surface here (ours and theirs). This results in the bolts making point contact instead of flat contact. With our spot face, the point contact never happens. We also use an aluminum match-plate mold instead of a wood/sand combo. This is a fully machined mold that yields a precise casting. Look at the edges and corners of our housing and you can see the difference (1st four photos attached). You can also see the two dowel pin holes used in conjunction with 6 tapered head cap screws to secure the ebrake bracket. Attached Images __________________ Keith Bailey The Offroad Connection [URL=http://www.grayrockorv.com]Gray Rock ORV[/URL] [URL=http://www.onetime4xproducts.com]Make Your Shaft Big![/URL]

03-23-2003, 07:22 AM	#17 (permalink)
Keith Bailey Registered User Join Date: Mar 2003 Member # 17794 Location: Alabama Posts: 20	Photo 2 Attached Images __________________ Keith Bailey The Offroad Connection [URL=http://www.grayrockorv.com]Gray Rock ORV[/URL] [URL=http://www.onetime4xproducts.com]Make Your Shaft Big![/URL]

03-23-2003, 07:24 AM	#18 (permalink)
Keith Bailey Registered User Join Date: Mar 2003 Member # 17794 Location: Alabama Posts: 20	Photo #3 Attached Images __________________ Keith Bailey The Offroad Connection [URL=http://www.grayrockorv.com]Gray Rock ORV[/URL] [URL=http://www.onetime4xproducts.com]Make Your Shaft Big![/URL]

03-23-2003, 07:24 AM	#19 (permalink)
Keith Bailey Registered User Join Date: Mar 2003 Member # 17794 Location: Alabama Posts: 20	Photo #4 Attached Images __________________ Keith Bailey The Offroad Connection [URL=http://www.grayrockorv.com]Gray Rock ORV[/URL] [URL=http://www.onetime4xproducts.com]Make Your Shaft Big![/URL]

03-23-2003, 07:28 AM	#20 (permalink)
Keith Bailey Registered User Join Date: Mar 2003 Member # 17794 Location: Alabama Posts: 20	Our housing (bottom) has a much more massive casting as you can see here in a comparison of the top of each piece. We also use an angled drill on the CNC to create the vent/drain back hole. We don't drill through from the outside and fill the hole with a push-plug. Look at the upper side of the competitors housing and you will see the cap plug siliconed in place. Attached Images __________________ Keith Bailey The Offroad Connection [URL=http://www.grayrockorv.com]Gray Rock ORV[/URL] [URL=http://www.onetime4xproducts.com]Make Your Shaft Big![/URL]

03-23-2003, 07:30 AM	#21 (permalink)
Keith Bailey Registered User Join Date: Mar 2003 Member # 17794 Location: Alabama Posts: 20	We go all-out on the shaft also. The shaft on the right is ours. We fully grind the shaft except of areas with splines. We pay attention to machining detail and make sure the spline runout doesn't get into areas of the shaft not meant for splining. You will notice no spline cuts below the lower snap ring on our shaft. Attached Images __________________ Keith Bailey The Offroad Connection [URL=http://www.grayrockorv.com]Gray Rock ORV[/URL] [URL=http://www.onetime4xproducts.com]Make Your Shaft Big![/URL]

03-23-2003, 07:33 AM	#22 (permalink)
Keith Bailey Registered User Join Date: Mar 2003 Member # 17794 Location: Alabama Posts: 20	Any area of the shaft that contacts a gear is precision ground on our shaft. The shaft on the right is ours. You will notice a grinded seat area above the lower clutch spline on our shaft. This is the area where the helical gear contacts during operation. We grind the surface within 0.0005" to provide a smooth seat for the gear. Attached Images __________________ Keith Bailey The Offroad Connection [URL=http://www.grayrockorv.com]Gray Rock ORV[/URL] [URL=http://www.onetime4xproducts.com]Make Your Shaft Big![/URL]

03-23-2003, 08:04 PM	#24 (permalink)
onetoncv Pirate4x4 Addict! Join Date: Nov 2000 Member # 2160 Location: Paradise , ca Posts: 9,509	well yours does seem to be thought out - and seems swell -but if there was a large/any problem with aa's breaking- wearing/distorting /anything of this nature - then i see a need- ??? Have not seen any of the sort going on- nice to have a competitor for aa- Jesse __________________ http://highangledriveline.com Bringing Innovation to the market ! http://highangledriveline.com/HAD1.gif 530-877-2875 --------------------------------------------------------------------------------

03-23-2003, 09:23 PM	#25 (permalink)
cmk Registered User Join Date: May 2000 Member # 987 Posts: 1,869	So, it's a "me too, better." ... nuthin' wrong with that. ... except I need one for a short tail d300. cm "I got $500 burnin' a hole in my pocket if you can make it work with a flipped short tail d300." k

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