Dana 60 Superior **SUPER** Axles Now Available !!! - Pirate4x4.Com : 4x4 and Off-Road Forum

PIG · 05-01-2003, 10:32 AM

That's right PBBers, I just got the final word this morning.

Question: "What makes these axles so super?"

Answer: "The manufacturing processes."

Manufacturing process breakdown:

1) The axle is forged of 4340.
2) It is then through hardened.
3) Next comes the machining process (yokes & shafts are cleaned up).
4) The splines are then rolled (thats right, not shaped or hobbed).
5) The axle is then heat treated again with the use of an induction hardning machine.
6) The axle is then treated with a corrosive resistant black oxide coating finnish.
7) All this from the good old USA (not from India, coff, coff)

The shafts go for $1,600.00 which includes both inners and outters for all 60 applications.

*Now, for a limited time only; if you guys order the shafts up with CTM's I will pay the shipping. $2,100.00 SHIPPED.

Dave@polyperformance.com
805-234-1760

Now for the pics...

PIG · 05-01-2003, 10:34 AM

The pic above is comparing a stock 60 shaft (above) to a SUPER 60 Shaft (below).

Another pic...

PIG · 05-01-2003, 10:36 AM

Last pic

Lance · 05-01-2003, 11:20 AM

Is 4340 comparable to 300m?

PIG · 05-01-2003, 01:08 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Lance
Is 4340 comparable to 300m?

Dude, are you some kind of newb or what dude? Do a search.

J/K FB, yes 300m is a modified version of 4340 alloy - vanadium and a higher silicon content is added to the alloy. The advantage occurs with the heat treatability of the shaft. However, for the price a forged 300m shaft would cost this is definatly your best bet. One more thing, a shaft manufactured the same way these are (pretty much unheard of) will be about 25% stronger. Please pay special attention to the quotations in that last sentence.

GOAT1 · 05-01-2003, 01:52 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Lance
Is 4340 comparable to 300m?

300m is actually a derivitive of 4340, it is essentially the same except for added vanadium and increase in silicon. If HEAT TREATED CORRECTLY it can be about 25% stronger than 4340. It is however, 3-4 times the material cost, mostly because it is only available in aircraft quality and it can be hard to get. It doesn't make a good mass produced axle because machining and heat treating can be difficult. 300M is usually a last resort when you can't make your part any bigger and every other material has failed, 4340 is the next best thing

Flatty · 05-01-2003, 02:08 PM

Can you get 44 shafts? If so, how much for those?

Dimitri

Jeepaholik · 05-01-2003, 04:23 PM

If only I had some money.....

Ghetto Fab. · 05-01-2003, 04:53 PM

Damn Dave, it looks good. Maybe I'll have to cruise over late one night!

I too need to start playin the lotto.

Kev

RealJeepMan · 05-02-2003, 08:13 AM

Can I have these made in custom lengths?

Ryan

Erik D_lux · 05-02-2003, 08:42 AM

Are they putting any warrenty on these?

PIG · 05-02-2003, 09:12 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Flatty
Can you get 44 shafts? If so, how much for those?

Dimitri

Yes, 44 shafts are being made. In fact i'll have a set out at the CalRocs event this weekend. So if you are there come by and check it out.

PIG · 05-02-2003, 09:13 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by RealJeep Man
Can I have these made in custom lengths?

Ryan

YES.

PIG · 05-02-2003, 09:19 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Erik D_lux
Are they putting any warrenty on these?

Yes, there is a warranty on manufacturing defects on the shafts (ie. improper heat treat etc...). Other than that I am not sure. I am sure though that breakage of these shafts will be minimal and that Superior will evaluate each situtation to take the appropriate actions. On a side note word has it that Durham is running a set this weekend. Take that how you want it........

GOAT1 · 05-02-2003, 09:36 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by RealJeep Man
Can I have these made in custom lengths?

Ryan

That is the cool thing about these, they are available in custom lengths, but still have rolled splines, proper neck-down and then heat treated, they are not just a cut-n-spline axle blank, it is truely a custom made axle.

morpheus · 05-02-2003, 09:52 AM

how much are the 44 shafts going to cost ??

thanks.

- jack

doctor_G · 05-02-2003, 01:18 PM

So to put a number on these as far as strength goes.............
About 14,721 lb/ft?? Correct?

Can you get just inners or just outers?

PIG · 05-05-2003, 08:23 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Flatty
Can you get 44 shafts? If so, how much for those?

Dimitri

YES. Custon length 44 SUPER Axles are now available as well. I will start another thread in this fourm as soon as I get some pricing.

PIG · 05-05-2003, 04:21 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by doctor_G
So to put a number on these as far as strength goes.............
About 14,721 lb/ft?? Correct?

Can you get just inners or just outers?

As far as the max load on the shaft, i'll have to get my calculator out now. Also, as of now you can only get them in pairs. For example, 1 inner and 1 outer.

TR · 05-05-2003, 04:48 PM

can you do a 30 spline D60 shaft? we have a customer that is twisting the shafts in his Tera 50 and this might be his last hope unless some one knows of a D44 ARB 35 spline.

GOAT1 · 05-05-2003, 05:06 PM

Superior has 33 spline 44 ARB's available, that might be a better way to go

KingOf_Pain · 05-05-2003, 10:30 PM

Will these be available for the '99-newer Ford Superduties, that run the seals and unitized bearing?

When will you be having a Eibach spring SALE?

PIG · 05-09-2003, 12:38 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by doctor_G
So to put a number on these as far as strength goes.............
About 14,721 lb/ft?? Correct?

Can you get just inners or just outers?

I am still working on the numbers but that figure (Billavista's) seems pretty close to the yeild strength of the shaft. However, the shear strength of the shaft is gonna be around 6000lbs. Like I said I am still working on it...

BillaVista · 05-10-2003, 10:59 AM

I am going to have to check and very-likely revise any figures in my article. It was one of the things I meant to do - but never got around to it, and then near the end I got all excited and published the thing without all the editing I needed to do.

I also need to be clearer about whether I'm talking tensile, shear, compression or ?? and whether I'm talking ultimate, yield, safe, WLL or what.

Actually - a major overhaul of the article is in order.

Bottom line - take any numbers from my article with HUGE grain of salt - especially for comparing to this new product.

KingOf_Pain · 05-10-2003, 02:36 PM

You said ALL Dana 60's, but I don't see the lip for the 99-newer super duty D60 seals. Is it all D60's or not?

Thanks,

05-01-2003, 10:32 AM	#1 (permalink)
PIG Pirate4x4 Addict! Join Date: May 2001 Member # 4502 Location: SanLuisObispo, CA Posts: 5,137	Dana 60 Superior SUPER Axles Now Available !!! That's right PBBers, I just got the final word this morning. Question: "What makes these axles so super?" Answer: "The manufacturing processes." Manufacturing process breakdown: 1) The axle is forged of 4340. 2) It is then through hardened. 3) Next comes the machining process (yokes & shafts are cleaned up). 4) The splines are then rolled (thats right, not shaped or hobbed). 5) The axle is then heat treated again with the use of an induction hardning machine. 6) The axle is then treated with a corrosive resistant black oxide coating finnish. 7) All this from the good old USA (not from India, coff, coff) The shafts go for $1,600.00 which includes both inners and outters for all 60 applications. Now, for a limited time only; if you guys order the shafts up with CTM's I will pay the shipping. $2,100.00 SHIPPED. Dave@polyperformance.com 805-234-1760 Now for the pics... Attached Images __________________ www.PolyPerformance.com Click the sig for everything you need to build a tube car www.SynergySuspension.com Cool stuff for your buggy, Jeep, Dodge 2500/3500 www.4130Clothing.com A unique apparel line geared for the off-road enthusiast Last edited by PIG; 05-05-2003 at 07:20 PM.*

05-01-2003, 10:34 AM	#2 (permalink)
PIG Pirate4x4 Addict! Join Date: May 2001 Member # 4502 Location: SanLuisObispo, CA Posts: 5,137	The pic above is comparing a stock 60 shaft (above) to a SUPER 60 Shaft (below). Another pic... Attached Images __________________ www.PolyPerformance.com Click the sig for everything you need to build a tube car www.SynergySuspension.com Cool stuff for your buggy, Jeep, Dodge 2500/3500 www.4130Clothing.com A unique apparel line geared for the off-road enthusiast

05-01-2003, 10:36 AM	#3 (permalink)
PIG Pirate4x4 Addict! Join Date: May 2001 Member # 4502 Location: SanLuisObispo, CA Posts: 5,137	Last pic Attached Images __________________ www.PolyPerformance.com Click the sig for everything you need to build a tube car www.SynergySuspension.com Cool stuff for your buggy, Jeep, Dodge 2500/3500 www.4130Clothing.com A unique apparel line geared for the off-road enthusiast

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Flatty Registered User Join Date: Feb 2000 Member # 29 Location: Belmont, CA Posts: 6,387	Can you get 44 shafts? If so, how much for those? Dimitri __________________ 1974 FJ40 in the works 2006 F250 crew cab longbed powerstroke for towing duties

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Ghetto Fab. Rock God Join Date: Jul 2001 Member # 6170 Location: Atascadero Posts: 1,017	Damn Dave, it looks good. Maybe I'll have to cruise over late one night! I too need to start playin the lotto. Kev

05-02-2003, 08:13 AM	#10 (permalink)
RealJeepMan Registered User Join Date: Jun 2000 Member # 1170 Location: Concord Ca Posts: 1,525	Can I have these made in custom lengths? Ryan __________________ 77 CJ7 "One Week Jeep"

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Erik D_lux Registered User Join Date: May 2000 Member # 1007 Location: SLC, Utah Posts: 5,355	Are they putting any warrenty on these?

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morpheus Registered User Join Date: Aug 2001 Member # 6291 Location: Decatur, AL Posts: 3,220	how much are the 44 shafts going to cost ?? thanks. - jack __________________ [list][*][url="http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?t=373488"][COLOR=lime]For sale: Ford D60 parts, D44 steering arms, etc ... [/COLOR] [/url] [/list]

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doctor_G Registered User Join Date: Jan 2001 Member # 3013 Location: Clarion,PA USA Posts: 1,562	How strong? So to put a number on these as far as strength goes............. About 14,721 lb/ft?? Correct? Can you get just inners or just outers? __________________ "Instead of being a trail guide, you should put on a clown suit and give pony rides at kids' birthday parties" 94 YJ. 5.0 HO, NP435, NP-203 W/3.2:1/NP-205 WMS doubler, Bilstein/Alcan suspension, 104" WB. 60's front and rear.

05-05-2003, 04:48 PM	#20 (permalink)
TR Zeus of the Sluice Join Date: Jan 2001 Member # 2877 Location: Gordonsville, Va Posts: 3,502	can you do a 30 spline D60 shaft? we have a customer that is twisting the shafts in his Tera 50 and this might be his last hope unless some one knows of a D44 ARB 35 spline. __________________ Penn State study finds that heavy drinking is 100% easier than giving a shit

05-05-2003, 05:06 PM	#21 (permalink)
GOAT1 Zeus of the Sluice Join Date: Jul 2001 Member # 5969 Location: Bloomfield, WI Posts: 2,843	Superior has 33 spline 44 ARB's available, that might be a better way to go __________________ goatbuilt.com drew@goatbuilt.com IBEX 4-SEAT BUILD THREAD GIVEAWAY>>>SHOCK SPACER INSTALL PIN

05-05-2003, 10:30 PM	#22 (permalink)
KingOf_Pain Rock God Join Date: Jul 2001 Member # 5926 Location: County of KINGS, Ca Posts: 1,016	Hello, Will these be available for the '99-newer Ford Superduties, that run the seals and unitized bearing? When will you be having a Eibach spring SALE? __________________ Brian Wickert Hanford, CA

05-10-2003, 10:59 AM	#24 (permalink)
BillaVista Registered User Join Date: Mar 2001 Member # 3547 Location: Ottawa, Canada Posts: 6,719	I am going to have to check and very-likely revise any figures in my article. It was one of the things I meant to do - but never got around to it, and then near the end I got all excited and published the thing without all the editing I needed to do. I also need to be clearer about whether I'm talking tensile, shear, compression or ?? and whether I'm talking ultimate, yield, safe, WLL or what. Actually - a major overhaul of the article is in order. Bottom line - take any numbers from my article with HUGE grain of salt - especially for comparing to this new product.

05-10-2003, 02:36 PM	#25 (permalink)
KingOf_Pain Rock God Join Date: Jul 2001 Member # 5926 Location: County of KINGS, Ca Posts: 1,016	HELLO You said ALL Dana 60's, but I don't see the lip for the 99-newer super duty D60 seals. Is it all D60's or not? Thanks, __________________ Brian Wickert Hanford, CA

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