Unimog disc brake conversion - Pirate4x4.Com : 4x4 and Off-Road Forum

Wolfgang · 08-17-2003, 03:42 AM

From the Innovators not the Imitators!

The strongest disc brake/8-lug conversion for your Unimog 404 axle you can get, for the lowest price you can imagine!

Only 650 US$ for the kit for one axle (rotor and caliper not included)

disc brake/8-lug hub only 250 US$ each!

Rotors and calipers available at your local parts store for about 400$ per axle.

or more information see our homepage

www.killeraxles.com

send e-mail or give us a call!

The Rockslut · 08-17-2003, 08:33 AM

What is all included for $650 an axle?

Wolfgang · 08-17-2003, 08:57 AM

This kits includes the hubs, caliper brackets and bolts, new seals for the hubs and the wheel studs. You only need to buy the calipers and the rotors from your local parts store!

The Rockslut · 08-17-2003, 09:08 AM

One more question. I figued probably 3/4 Chevy 4x4 front rotors but what calipers?

Wolfgang · 08-17-2003, 09:22 AM

No, Dodge W200 rotors (Raybestos parts # 7054) and Corvette calipers (1968-1982 front) (Raybestos # RC 8002 and RC 8001)

Wolfgang · 08-20-2003, 08:47 AM

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TONY K · 09-03-2003, 04:19 PM

Is the hub offset (the wheel mounting flange) change with your hub vs. the factory hub ?

Basicly if I was 80" wide with drums, is it still 80" wide with disk ?

tony k

Wolfgang · 09-04-2003, 12:18 AM

No, the axle is wider with the disc-brake/8-lug conversion.
It is about 3" on each side. If you mount the Hummer rims (7 1/2" backspace) you are back to the stock width.

Wolfgang · 09-09-2003, 11:01 AM

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Todd W · 10-18-2003, 11:00 PM

Do any 404s come wtih discs?

I don't undersatnd how the brakes cost as much as the actual axle itself?? Are the the drums that bad?

blk87K5 · 10-19-2003, 01:30 PM

Just picked mine up from Daniel Friday, and pulled in my driveway a few minutes ago. Got the tape measure out, and AFAIK, the 404's are 69" wide stock. With the disc brake converted hubs, they looked ~3" total. Therefore, the axle would now be 72" wide. From what I can tell, the drum brakes look awesome. They are huge. Bear in mind that they are designed to stop a very large truck with a load on it for farm use, not a small light weight four wheel drive. If you ask Daniel real nice, I am sure he could snap some pics of the axles he had with the drums off for a comparison. The drums and wheel cylinders on these axles make a 14 bolt look tiny. Everything on these axles is super beef, making a 35 spline D60 or 14 bolt look weak. As you can tell, I am very excited about these axles and pleased to deal with Daniel, Woflgang, and everyone at Tibus/Killer Axles.

Edit: To answer your question on the disc brake conversions, there would be a very large amount of machine work involved in making the hubs. You also have to include the expensive parts, such as calipers and rotors, to do the conversion.

Bryan Gillespie

Wolfgang · 10-20-2003, 09:14 AM

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Originally posted by Todd W
Do any 404s come wtih discs?

I don't undersatnd how the brakes cost as much as the actual axle itself?? Are the the drums that bad?

404 Unimog never came with disc brakes and it is a lot of machine work to do the new hubs.
Drums are very big and not so bad but you have to run 20" MOG rims. Our disc brake kit is also a conversion to 8-lug.

The Rockslut · 10-20-2003, 03:57 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Wolfgang

Drums are very big and not so bad but you have to run 20" MOG rims.

Or 15", 16", 16.5",17" wheels with mog centers..

Todd W · 10-20-2003, 05:41 PM

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Originally posted by The Rockslut

Or 15", 16", 16.5",17" wheels with mog centers..

That's what I thought... Hummer Rims ... mog pattern

The Rockslut · 10-20-2003, 07:18 PM

Or JOHNS351C's wheels. Double beadlock and a much better wheel for wheelin.

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Wolfgang Registered User Join Date: Feb 2002 Member # 10045 Location: Germany Posts: 728	Unimog disc brake conversion From the Innovators not the Imitators! The strongest disc brake/8-lug conversion for your Unimog 404 axle you can get, for the lowest price you can imagine! Only 650 US$ for the kit for one axle (rotor and caliper not included) disc brake/8-lug hub only 250 US$ each! Rotors and calipers available at your local parts store for about 400$ per axle. or more information see our homepage www.killeraxles.com send e-mail or give us a call!

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TONY K Registered User Join Date: May 2002 Member # 12008 Location: Lincoln Ca. Posts: 1,814	Is the hub offset (the wheel mounting flange) change with your hub vs. the factory hub ? Basicly if I was 80" wide with drums, is it still 80" wide with disk ? tony k __________________ Tony K - Shocks - Sway Bars - Steering tk1racing.com or Facebook.com/tk1racing

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Wolfgang Registered User Join Date: Feb 2002 Member # 10045 Location: Germany Posts: 728	This kits includes the hubs, caliper brackets and bolts, new seals for the hubs and the wheel studs. You only need to buy the calipers and the rotors from your local parts store!

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Wolfgang Registered User Join Date: Feb 2002 Member # 10045 Location: Germany Posts: 728	No, Dodge W200 rotors (Raybestos parts # 7054) and Corvette calipers (1968-1982 front) (Raybestos # RC 8002 and RC 8001)

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blk87K5 Registered User Join Date: Dec 2002 Member # 15393 Location: In a library. Posts: 1,129	Just picked mine up from Daniel Friday, and pulled in my driveway a few minutes ago. Got the tape measure out, and AFAIK, the 404's are 69" wide stock. With the disc brake converted hubs, they looked ~3" total. Therefore, the axle would now be 72" wide. From what I can tell, the drum brakes look awesome. They are huge. Bear in mind that they are designed to stop a very large truck with a load on it for farm use, not a small light weight four wheel drive. If you ask Daniel real nice, I am sure he could snap some pics of the axles he had with the drums off for a comparison. The drums and wheel cylinders on these axles make a 14 bolt look tiny. Everything on these axles is super beef, making a 35 spline D60 or 14 bolt look weak. As you can tell, I am very excited about these axles and pleased to deal with Daniel, Woflgang, and everyone at Tibus/Killer Axles. Edit: To answer your question on the disc brake conversions, there would be a very large amount of machine work involved in making the hubs. You also have to include the expensive parts, such as calipers and rotors, to do the conversion. Bryan Gillespie Last edited by blk87K5; 10-19-2003 at 09:04 PM.

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The Rockslut Registered User Join Date: Jun 2001 Member # 5021 Location: Lincoln, CA Posts: 5,967	Or JOHNS351C's wheels. Double beadlock and a much better wheel for wheelin. __________________ Don't be "THAT GUY" on the trail. www.voodoowax.com

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