88 montero need ideas for build

[88monteroonboggers]

hey guys i just had a question i picked up a 88 two door montero 4x4 and i wanna build it so what kinda axles do u recommend for it? Toyotas or chevy 10 bolts????? give me some ideas it would be much appreciated

[primate60]

I think full width would be pretty cool ona montero but I like full widths on just about everything
it all depends on what you have planned for the little guy
-35" or taller tires?
-stretch
-what kinda wheeling do you do?

[Badmonty]

1 tons, 40's, turboed 22re, 220+:1, 3 link front 4 link rear, coil overs front, air shocks rear............

Be more specific, like primate60 said above what kind of wheeling do you do?? Any one could help give you a bunch of non realistic mods that you "could do". Is it your daily driver?? etc.

[sneakyninja]

I say go tons and 40´s with 3 and 4 link on stock wheel base, but like everyone has already said what are you using it for? I just automatically assume you want to do some hardcore crawling.


If you are on a budget you can just go with lockers, crawler gears and 35´s using your stock equipment and still be able to kick ass out on the rocks with little breakage.

Have fun.

[88monteroonboggers]

i wanna do alot not just rocks im into everything but im definetly thinkin bout just going with full widths and like 35s cause i still wanna be streetable and yea ill prolly do lockers and a gear kit in the t case

[88monteroonboggers]

how tall should i go with it? ideas?

[88mitsu]

Originally Posted by 88monteroonboggers

how tall should i go with it? ideas?

ALAP- as low as possible

Are you keeping the original engine? You will need a driver's drop axle like a ford d44, or driver's drop wagoneer d44.



Or *gasp* jeep d30 and a ford 8.8 CHEAP, easy, cheap, can handle 35s with a 4 cylinder

[Badmonty]

Any project starts with A LOT of reading!!! And learning from others mistakes and successes before you dive into a project. My advice is read lots of build threads to get a grasp of how much work it is going to take to take on a SAS project. Theres a lot to learn by just reading all the threads here on pirate.


Mind you I'm assuming that this is your first project.

[88monteroonboggers]

yes im keeping the stock engine but im turboing it and no its not my first build but first build for a ifs front end i have a 83 yota on 40s but i wanted something a little different i want it to still be driveable on the street thats why i dont wanna go bigger than 35s but all this info is very helpful thanks guys

[Guns_and_Roses]

Originally Posted by 88monteroonboggers

i want it to still be driveable on the street thats why i dont wanna go bigger than 35s but all this info is very helpful thanks guys

i know a guy who runs 37's on his montero and he drives it on the street.

[88mitsu]

Originally Posted by 88monteroonboggers

yes im keeping the stock engine but im turboing it and no its not my first build but first build for a ifs front end i have a 83 yota on 40s but i wanted something a little different i want it to still be driveable on the street thats why i dont wanna go bigger than 35s but all this info is very helpful thanks guys

I run 38.5 s with stock engine and gears and it drives great. Forget it if you have hills though or want to go over 65mph.

A d30/ford 8.8 would be very cheap with a set of 35s for the street. Try and find some with 4.56 or 4.88 gears though.

[88monteroonboggers]

ok definitely thanks...im gonna keep my eyes out for d30 cause i already have a ford 8.8 sittin here at my house

[88monteroonboggers]

ok definitely thanks...im gonna keep my eyes out for d30 cause i already have a ford 8.8 sittin here at my house

[plh]

Originally Posted by 88monteroonboggers

ok definitely thanks...im gonna keep my eyes out for d30 cause i already have a ford 8.8 sittin here at my house

D30 is weaker than the stock IFS IIRC

Go 2 1/2 ton rockwells

[Raole Duke]

Originally Posted by 88monteroonboggers

ok definitely thanks...im gonna keep my eyes out for d30 cause i already have a ford 8.8 sittin here at my house

D30 =

[88mitsu]

Originally Posted by plh

D30 is weaker than the stock IFS IIRC

Not really, you have to understand that a dana 30 is put under wranglers and cherokees with a 4.0 engine making double the hp and about 100 more torque. The cherokees and jeeps also weigh a tad more than a SWB montero.

A high pinion d30 from a cherokee is strong enough for a 150hp/200tq turbo 2.6 and 35s if you wheel it with common sense. Parts are cheap.

d30 SAS:
http://www.cardomain.com/ride/3829890/1987-dodge-raider

[88mitsu]

Originally Posted by 88monteroonboggers

ok definitely thanks...im gonna keep my eyes out for d30 cause i already have a ford 8.8 sittin here at my house

what lug pattern? 5x5.5 or 5x4.5?
d30 are 5x4.5
d44 ford are 5x5.5


If you do decide on a d30 get a high pinion unit from a cherokee or try a find one with 4.88s or 4.56s gears for cheap.

[sneakyninja]

Originally Posted by 88mitsu

Not really, you have to understand that a dana 30 is put under wranglers and cherokees with a 4.0 engine making double the hp and about 100 more torque. The cherokees and jeeps also weigh a tad more than a SWB montero.

I second the D30 is weaker than mitsu IFS, it´s more on par with a D44 so anything less than that is just silly And a 2 door 2.6 Montero weighs about 3300, a 2 door swb Tj with a 4.0 weighs about 3,230, a Yj sits right at 3000 and Xj´s start at 3000lbs for a short base model 4x4 then up to 3300 for the 4door. Having said that I have seen 2 YJ´s on oversized 31¨ tires blow up their D30 with no locker on rutted dirt, but i do know a guy who has a TJ with 36" tires and no locker and his just barely broke after a few years of rock crawling. I Have seen the same number of broken CV´s on monteros and 1 stub shaft over the past 10 years of rock crawling montero´s with lockers, crawler gears and 35´s. Now i know a lot of people with jeeps on 31´s who have never broken an axle, but still Dana 30´s suck and they are narrow you´d be better off with Wagoneer axles.

[plh]

Originally Posted by sneakyninja

I second the D30 is weaker than mitsu IFS, it´s more on par with a D44 so anything less than that is just silly And a 2 door 2.6 Montero weighs about 3300, a 2 door swb Tj with a 4.0 weighs about 3,230, a Yj sits right at 3000 and Xj´s start at 3000lbs for a short base model 4x4 then up to 3300 for the 4door. Having said that I have seen 2 YJ´s on oversized 31¨ tires blow up their D30 with no locker on rutted dirt, but i do know a guy who has a TJ with 36" tires and no locker and his just barely broke after a few years of rock crawling. I Have seen the same number of broken CV´s on monteros and 1 stub shaft over the past 10 years of rock crawling montero´s with lockers, crawler gears and 35´s. Now i know a lot of people with jeeps on 31´s who have never broken an axle, but still Dana 30´s suck and they are narrow you´d be better off with Wagoneer axles.

Yea, in reality keep the Mitsu front and rear, bolt on a set of 33" tires 2" to 3" body lift and wheel it until something breaks. Could be a long time of fun ;-)

[88monteroonboggers]

okk ill take al lthe into consideration but my buddy has a xj on a 3 1/2 lift stock axles no lockers welded rear on 36s and it holds up just fine havent broke anything yet and we rednecks here in redding,ca wheel our shit hard so eithier way idk ill take it all into considerations thanks for all the feedback

[plh]

Originally Posted by 88monteroonboggers

okk ill take al lthe into consideration but my buddy has a xj on a 3 1/2 lift stock axles no lockers welded rear on 36s and it holds up just fine havent broke anything yet and we rednecks here in redding,ca wheel our shit hard so eithier way idk ill take it all into considerations thanks for all the feedback

Must be a lot of fender trimming on that XJ to get 36" tires with a 3 1/2" lift. 6 1/2" lift on these clears a 35" (33" recommended) ...

[sneakyninja]

Originally Posted by plh

Must be a lot of fender trimming on that XJ to get 36" tires with a 3 1/2" lift. 2 1/2" lift on these clears a 35" (33" recommended) ...

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[88monteroonboggers]

yea the fenders are cut but nothin crazy and it clears them just fine 36 15.50 15s...and it flexs like no other with the quick disconnects off

[gpete]

Originally Posted by 88monteroonboggers

hey guys i just had a question i picked up a 88 two door montero 4x4 and i wanna build it so what kinda axles do u recommend for it? Toyotas or chevy 10 bolts????? give me some ideas it would be much appreciated

What is so special about the Mitsubishi in comparison to Toyota and Nissan i hear they are not as strong as other Japanese vehicles and their aftermarket support is not as good.

[Justice R]

Originally Posted by gpete

What is so special about the Mitsubishi in comparison to Toyota and Nissan i hear they are not as strong as other Japanese vehicles and their aftermarket support is not as good.

What makes them so special? I think you answered your own question there..not every schmuck on the trail is running a Mitsu, and in the states there was never anything comparable to the SWB Gen I Montero ever offered by Toyo or Nissan........Not as Strong? I beg to differ...Aftermarket aftershhhmarket,,,just another thing that makes em "so special"