The BlackBox Planetary GearBox - Page 9 - Pirate4x4.Com : 4x4 and Off-Road Forum

NorthWestFab · 01-24-2012, 10:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bronco69

Question about NV4500/RockTrac setup sent via PM.

Thanks!

PM Sent!

cruisertime · 01-30-2012, 03:41 PM

I went to your website and saw you have an integrated version.... whats the skinny on that?

NorthWestFab · 01-31-2012, 09:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cruisertime

I went to your website and saw you have an integrated version.... whats the skinny on that?

Basically uses the same internals as the Standard BlackBox, but instead of the output shaft of the BB sliding into the Input of the transfer case the output of the BlackBox-i is the Transfercases Input. It will only work with Dana 300, Bronco D20, Stak or Atlas II.

Kris

Neventy · 02-04-2012, 08:28 AM

Price on 32 spline black box to go in between 4L80E and 241. Shipped to 89444.Thanks

NorthWestFab · 02-06-2012, 11:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Neventy

Price on 32 spline black box to go in between 4L80E and 241. Shipped to 89444.Thanks

PM Sent!

crawlin CJ7 · 02-10-2012, 12:49 PM

Kris I guess I just missed that sale, thanks for getting my box shipped out, going thru customs now. Cant wait to get that blackbox-i infornt of the dana 300 & behind my new SM465 in the Jeep.

Thanks,

David

cobyhughey · 02-17-2012, 12:21 AM

Need price and more importantly, ETA, for a blackbox i to go between 4l80e and an atlas II 3.8, shipped to 80524. Can you get one here quickly?

NorthWestFab · 02-17-2012, 10:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cobyhughey

Need price and more importantly, ETA, for a blackbox i to go between 4l80e and an atlas II 3.8, shipped to 80524. Can you get one here quickly?

PM Sent!

bofer · 02-24-2012, 07:49 PM

looking for a price quote on a blackbox sent to 32801. I keep going back and forth between a Blackbox and an np203 doulber or a Klune. This is going between a Ford C6 and np205.
Bo

jopickens · 02-29-2012, 08:49 AM

Taking the plunge... hope the prices are good!
Quote on a *woops!* for use in front of a nv241D and behind an a518 to 26330!

NorthWestFab · 02-29-2012, 09:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bofer

looking for a price quote on a blackbox sent to 32801. I keep going back and forth between a Blackbox and an np203 doulber or a Klune. This is going between a Ford C6 and np205.
Bo

PM Sent!

NorthWestFab · 02-29-2012, 09:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jopickens

Taking the plunge... hope the prices are good!
Quote on a goliath for use in front of a nv241D and behind an a518 to 26330!

PM Sent!

Lost One · 03-02-2012, 08:43 AM

Could I get a quote for a 32 spline input BlackBox-i to D300 and TH400 to D300 adapter (BA-400-SAL3) shipped to 80122 please? Also, does your triple stick shifter work with a D300 and if so a quote on that as well?

NorthWestFab · 03-02-2012, 10:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lost One

Could I get a quote for a 32 spline input BlackBox-i to D300 and TH400 to D300 adapter (BA-400-SAL3) shipped to 80122 please? Also, does your triple stick shifter work with a D300 and if so a quote on that as well?

PM Sent!

mitchm · 03-05-2012, 09:52 PM

could i get a quote th 350 to 205 shiped to 99692 thanks

NorthWestFab · 03-06-2012, 11:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mitchm

could i get a quote th 350 to 205 shiped to 99692 thanks

PM Sent!

MtnYota · 03-06-2012, 02:30 PM

Quote for blackbox between GM NV4500 and 32 short spline GM NP205 shipped to 95018

mj · 03-11-2012, 07:55 PM

pricing to change my BB from 31 spline input to 32 spine input for a th400, and maybe some info on how short can we get a th400/BB

NorthWestFab · 03-12-2012, 10:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MtnYota

Quote for blackbox between GM NV4500 and 32 short spline GM NP205 shipped to 95018

Quote:

Originally Posted by mj

pricing to change my BB from 31 spline input to 32 spine input for a th400, and maybe some info on how short can we get a th400/BB

PM's Sent!

jeepin4x4james · 04-02-2012, 07:50 AM

Quote for a blackbox-i between a 4l60E and a dana 300 to 84065? Also, price on the triple shifter?
Any other adapters needed for this setup? ...do you offer any type of VSS integration?
Thanks!

Valian · 05-07-2012, 02:12 AM

hi mate, glad to see your product is selling well.

Just a quick question. On your web page you have 2 versions, one called blackbox integrated. I note it is smaller in size.

Why wouldnt you use that one instead of the longer one, thus saving some lenght ?? cheers

NorthWestFab · 05-07-2012, 09:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Valian

hi mate, glad to see your product is selling well.

Just a quick question. On your web page you have 2 versions, one called blackbox integrated. I note it is smaller in size.

Why wouldnt you use that one instead of the longer one, thus saving some lenght ?? cheers

The only way to make the BlackBox shorter would be remove the rear bearing saving about an inch of length. In our opinion it is not worth it.

Most guys running the BlackBox to a transfer case that cant be integrated are running full size trucks where driveline length is not an issue and the BlackBox usually helps these guys with front driveshaft angles.

If you are worried about length run a BlackBox-i/D300, Atlas, or Bronco D20

Kris

Valian · 05-07-2012, 02:40 PM

Hi Kris, thanks for you reply.

Does the Blackbox-i have the same spline count as the bigger unit, ie 23 spline input & output?

cheers

NorthWestFab · 05-07-2012, 02:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Valian

Hi Kris, thanks for you reply.

Does the Blackbox-i have the same spline count as the bigger unit, ie 23 spline input & output?

cheers

No, the i comes with the shaft thats suited for the t-case example, Bronco D20 has a 6 Spline gear, New Atlas has a 32 spline gear.

I could put any Output shaft we carry in the back of it but it wont solve the t-case input issue

Kris

Valian · 05-08-2012, 01:00 AM

Kris, thanks again.

The reason i ask is that i have a non standard application in mind but could be limited by space, hence my interest in the smaller unit. I think the larger unit might be a tad too long. There is a dirty big crossmember in the way.

I want to run the unit in the Mitsubishi Pajero Gen 2 circa late 90's.

The Pajero of that era has the Aisin AW 30-43LE automatic transmission , similar to what some jeeps ran as well. The tranny has an output shaft with 23 splines mated to the transfer case. One clever guy from the US has actually made a doubler using 2 NP231's mated together & mounted to the transmission with a custom adaptor. He had a few hassles with speedo as the VSs for the Paj comes of the transfer case. Custom drive shafts were needed as well.

I want to keep the pajero case as it allows the vehicle to be used 4x4 fulltime & can be shifted to 4x4 at speeds up to 100kph. I run the Paj in 4x4 mode all the time, even on the highway. it has a centre diff in the case that allows this. Other modes are 4x4 with locked centre diff & 4x4 Low with locked centre.

The Paj case has a low of only 1.90 so low is around 25:1 , not very good I am sure you will say, but actually good in some applications. There are 3.14 reduction gears made in Aus & I have a set fitted. This brings the low down to 40.1, a bit more useable.

Your unit would give me 113.1 , way more than I want so i would probably take out the 3.15s & put the 1.90 back in, giving me 68.1.

I am not into rock crawling but do use the vehicle extensively around my property. I find the current reduction gears not low enough (when I need deep gearing) although they are a big improvement over standard. With your unit I could have standard low 25.1 and deep low 68.1 which would be ideal.

Anyway now that you know my application, i need to know whats possible.

Can the smaller unit be fitted with an output shaft of 23 splines similar to that of the larger unit?? I would hope to get 2 adaptors made up here locally that will allow your unit to be put in between the tranny & the existing transfere case.

Sorry about the long post, & I do appreciate your time, cheers.

02-17-2012, 12:21 AM	#207 (permalink)
cobyhughey Registered User Join Date: May 2000 Member # 989 Location: Fort Collins, CO Posts: 498	Need price and more importantly, ETA, for a blackbox i to go between 4l80e and an atlas II 3.8, shipped to 80524. Can you get one here quickly? __________________ Coby Hughey I did it like this, I did it like that, I did it with a whiffle ball bat

02-29-2012, 08:49 AM	#210 (permalink)
jopickens Wheeler Join Date: Jan 2009 Member # 126456 Location: Grafton, WV Posts: 238	Taking the plunge... hope the prices are good! Quote on a woops! for use in front of a nv241D and behind an a518 to 26330! Last edited by jopickens; 02-29-2012 at 09:49 AM.

03-02-2012, 08:43 AM	#213 (permalink)
Lost One Wheeler Join Date: May 2000 Member # 935 Location: Colonial Heights, VA Posts: 120	Could I get a quote for a 32 spline input BlackBox-i to D300 and TH400 to D300 adapter (BA-400-SAL3) shipped to 80122 please? Also, does your triple stick shifter work with a D300 and if so a quote on that as well? __________________ 06 LJ with stuff 72 J2000 89 Grand Wagoneer “You have enemies? Good. That means you've stood up for something, sometime in your life.” -Winston Churchill "Just because I don't care doesn't mean I don't understand." -Homer Simpson Last edited by Lost One; 03-02-2012 at 08:48 AM.

03-05-2012, 09:52 PM	#215 (permalink)
mitchm wide fucking open Join Date: Apr 2010 Member # 158596 Location: dutch harbor ak Posts: 62	could i get a quote th 350 to 205 shiped to 99692 thanks __________________ 73 gmc crew cab on 41 inch iroks 56's in front with d 60 with wfo hd springless arms x-over hydro assist high steer with tie rod behind axle 14 bolt with disk brakes inborded 63's in rear 4 foot bed

03-06-2012, 02:30 PM	#217 (permalink)
MtnYota Wheeler Join Date: Dec 2006 Member # 83913 Location: Felton, CA Posts: 492	Quote for blackbox between GM NV4500 and 32 short spline GM NP205 shipped to 95018 __________________ '85 Xtra Cab 3rz,Duals, D60/14b, Detroit front/rear, 35spline chromos,rears/chevys, bad temper Last edited by MtnYota; 03-06-2012 at 02:33 PM.

01-30-2012, 03:41 PM	#202 (permalink)
cruisertime Registered User Join Date: Mar 2007 Member # 88325 Location: USA Posts: 64	I went to your website and saw you have an integrated version.... whats the skinny on that?

02-04-2012, 08:28 AM	#204 (permalink)
Neventy Wheeler Join Date: Mar 2010 Member # 155973 Posts: 358	Price on 32 spline black box to go in between 4L80E and 241. Shipped to 89444.Thanks

02-10-2012, 12:49 PM	#206 (permalink)
crawlin CJ7 Registered User Join Date: Feb 2012 Member # 210445 Location: Ft Worth TX Posts: 2	Kris I guess I just missed that sale, thanks for getting my box shipped out, going thru customs now. Cant wait to get that blackbox-i infornt of the dana 300 & behind my new SM465 in the Jeep. Thanks, David

02-24-2012, 07:49 PM	#209 (permalink)
bofer Registered User Join Date: Feb 2011 Member # 183431 Posts: 340	looking for a price quote on a blackbox sent to 32801. I keep going back and forth between a Blackbox and an np203 doulber or a Klune. This is going between a Ford C6 and np205. Bo

03-11-2012, 07:55 PM	#218 (permalink)
mj Registered User Join Date: Oct 2000 Member # 1919 Location: BC Canada Posts: 7,547	pricing to change my BB from 31 spline input to 32 spine input for a th400, and maybe some info on how short can we get a th400/BB

04-02-2012, 07:50 AM	#220 (permalink)
jeepin4x4james Registered User Join Date: Jun 2010 Member # 162087 Location: Riverton, UT Posts: 44	Quote for a blackbox-i between a 4l60E and a dana 300 to 84065? Also, price on the triple shifter? Any other adapters needed for this setup? ...do you offer any type of VSS integration? Thanks!

05-07-2012, 02:12 AM	#221 (permalink)
Valian Registered User Join Date: May 2012 Member # 218227 Posts: 7	hi mate, glad to see your product is selling well. Just a quick question. On your web page you have 2 versions, one called blackbox integrated. I note it is smaller in size. Why wouldnt you use that one instead of the longer one, thus saving some lenght ?? cheers

05-07-2012, 02:40 PM	#223 (permalink)
Valian Registered User Join Date: May 2012 Member # 218227 Posts: 7	Hi Kris, thanks for you reply. Does the Blackbox-i have the same spline count as the bigger unit, ie 23 spline input & output? cheers

05-08-2012, 01:00 AM	#225 (permalink)
Valian Registered User Join Date: May 2012 Member # 218227 Posts: 7	Kris, thanks again. The reason i ask is that i have a non standard application in mind but could be limited by space, hence my interest in the smaller unit. I think the larger unit might be a tad too long. There is a dirty big crossmember in the way. I want to run the unit in the Mitsubishi Pajero Gen 2 circa late 90's. The Pajero of that era has the Aisin AW 30-43LE automatic transmission , similar to what some jeeps ran as well. The tranny has an output shaft with 23 splines mated to the transfer case. One clever guy from the US has actually made a doubler using 2 NP231's mated together & mounted to the transmission with a custom adaptor. He had a few hassles with speedo as the VSs for the Paj comes of the transfer case. Custom drive shafts were needed as well. I want to keep the pajero case as it allows the vehicle to be used 4x4 fulltime & can be shifted to 4x4 at speeds up to 100kph. I run the Paj in 4x4 mode all the time, even on the highway. it has a centre diff in the case that allows this. Other modes are 4x4 with locked centre diff & 4x4 Low with locked centre. The Paj case has a low of only 1.90 so low is around 25:1 , not very good I am sure you will say, but actually good in some applications. There are 3.14 reduction gears made in Aus & I have a set fitted. This brings the low down to 40.1, a bit more useable. Your unit would give me 113.1 , way more than I want so i would probably take out the 3.15s & put the 1.90 back in, giving me 68.1. I am not into rock crawling but do use the vehicle extensively around my property. I find the current reduction gears not low enough (when I need deep gearing) although they are a big improvement over standard. With your unit I could have standard low 25.1 and deep low 68.1 which would be ideal. Anyway now that you know my application, i need to know whats possible. Can the smaller unit be fitted with an output shaft of 23 splines similar to that of the larger unit?? I would hope to get 2 adaptors made up here locally that will allow your unit to be put in between the tranny & the existing transfere case. Sorry about the long post, & I do appreciate your time, cheers.

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