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Old 05-13-2017, 12:22 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Which super moto?

Possible New job starting in a few months. Commute is going from 2 miles in town to 22ish miles away one way, mostly freeway. Always wanted a supermoto. Ridden a few dual sport bikes over the years but never had a reason to get one. Been on a dirt bike for almost 20 years. What should I look for? I'm 5'-11" and 160#. I know I want at least a 450+. Example: are husqvarnas any better than a dual sported ktm? I have no interest in a street/sport bike. I have a green sticker dirt bike so don't need a dual sported bike if that makes sense.
Budget...don't know yet but won't be in the brand new price range.
Husqvarna?
Ktm?
I really like the look of the one '75 forty is selling but Michigan is pretty far
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The new Husky 701 is sick. Or if you wanna mod something a 500exc would be my supermoto choice.

I have a SM setup on my 1190R. 150HP supermoto

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Old 05-14-2017, 09:38 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Aprilia sxv 550.
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Old 05-15-2017, 04:20 AM   #4 (permalink)
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I really like the look of the one '75 forty is selling but Michigan is pretty far
Shooting you a PM.

The 690/701 (or earlier versions of it) are going to be your best bet for that many miles often. Going with nearly any 450/500 variant is going to be a nightmare running 22 miles each way to work between oil changes, valve checks, etc.
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Aprilia sxv 550.


Nope. Super high maintenance. And a pain to work on.

Instead of SM how about something like a Ducati Monster. My son has an SV 650. Great bikes. Super fun. He just put flat bars on and it is very much like his dirt bike.

Also the KTM 640. Buddy had one and it was awesome.
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I had husky 510 fuel injected
it was blast I raced it in NH Loudon for 2 years
reg. maintenance and frequent valve check/adjustment is all it needed

this should be same with KTM
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Going 45 miles at 70+ mph on ANY "dirt bike" every day is going to suck. Even my XR650R was fatiguing for 10 mile interstate stretches, the noise, vibration, and wind kick your ass. Riding my Monster for 4 hours was a complete joy by comparison.

Being that you've already got a dirt bike, I would stay away from the dual sport/supermoto route. I understand not liking crotch rockets or cruisers, but something like the SV650, Monster or a Triumph Scrambler with a windshield will keep you from hating your life.

If you have to have a supermoto, I'd see if you can find a used KTM 950 or 690 in your price range and learn how to maintain it.

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Aprillia-yeah no
Ducati-not my style
Bigger ktm touring bikes just seem huge to me.
What year did ktm and husky go to fuel injection?

I'm pretty set on super moto. Ive ridden dual sports around here and it is SUPER windy sometimes so not worried about that aspect. I've done 45 mile dirt rides that would make freeway simple.
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Any 450 Sm will be about as maintenance intensive as the ape. You'll burn it up with that commute. For that ride you need to be looking at a DRZ or WR250. The aprilia suggestion was more tongue in cheek than anything.
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Are the bigger motors like the 500/510/530/610/690/etc less maintenance? I know the 450s are race motors and need a lot more maintenance. I rode a crf250l(I think) and it was slow and gutless
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A little yes but still not something I would even remotely rely on for a commute. They are very high strung, don't hold much oil and require frequent valve checks ect...... If you didn't like the crf250L then don't bother with the WR250. It's a little better but not much.
( I have one). Bikes I would consider:

Xr650l
DR 650
KLR 650
Wee strom
Maybe one of the bigger KTM's
DRZ SM (still pretty sluggish)
Used Ducati hypermotard (first model)
BMW gs 650
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I'm not a big guy. I've ridden a xr650 and it was a tank and I was always afraid of dropping it my old boss had a klr650 and it was huge to me too, I'm sure the dr would be also.

Should I just register my KX250 at my parents place in AZ and stick some sumo wheels/tires and be done?
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If you get up my way you can take my WR for a rip,and see how you like it.
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Are the bigger motors like the 500/510/530/610/690/etc less maintenance? I know the 450s are race motors and need a lot more maintenance. I rode a crf250l(I think) and it was slow and gutless
Look into the KTM 625 SMC. Should nail exactly what you're wanting, just a bit difficult to find, maybe not so much being where you are.

I'd make a blanket assumption that anything other than a KLR, DR, etc 650, KTM 625/640/690 is going to have more maintenance than you want to deal with for how many miles you will put on it.
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I hate to say this, but a bulletproof DRZ400 would be your best bet. KTM's are great, but for regular fun commuting, you can't beat the reliability of the low key 400 motor... plus you can wake them up with a big bore kit and the FCR carb... Lots of good write up's on DRZ400 over on ThumperTalk.

I had a DRZ400SM and I loved it. While I longed for more power, it was still plenty fun and consistently got 68+ MPG even when I beat the balls off it. Zero complaints.
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I absolutely love commuting my '17 Husky FE 501. I have an 11 mile commute, and it's perfect in grid lock Bay Area traffic. I will say though when there is no traffic the short 11 miles at highway speeds wear on you quick. I am looking into a supermoto kit to ease the pain on the knobbies a bit, but I have a feeling it will still be a handful at 70+ mph. Back roads, surface streets and traffic it's a blast, but if your commute is 22 miles of open Highway I think you will get tired of a SM style ride.
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Friend has a dual sport drz 400 I may see if I can ride it for a week or so. Wants 2500 for it but not commiting to anything til I have a start date for the new gig
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I had 04 drz supermoto
no balls but bulletproof
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Yeah I had a DRZ400 and it was an absolute turd. Granted I was coming off of an uncorked Husky TE610

I want a SM bad, but nothing I can afford has any power
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Yeah I had a DRZ400 and it was an absolute turd. Granted I was coming off of an uncorked Husky TE610

I want a SM bad, but nothing I can afford has any power
I know they are. I rode with my buddy when he was on that bike at hollister hills. It didn't go anywhere quickly. It's not ideal by any means. I would like something with good power.
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Yeah I had a DRZ400 and it was an absolute turd. Granted I was coming off of an uncorked Husky TE610

I want a SM bad, but nothing I can afford has any power
This ^

Plus, this is pirate4x4, assuming you like offroading, nothing beats the versatility of having a SM setup and a dirt setup so you can explore with your SM tires and be like "damn, I gotta come back to this trail with the dirt setup"

I had both and it was awesome. Literally a bulletproof bike. I race NETRA and Jday and I beat the SNOT out of my drz in the woods.
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Should I just register my KX250 at my parents place in AZ and stick some sumo wheels/tires and be done?
Ca doesn't recognize Az street legal registration unless that bike was sold as streel legal in Ca also


Motard is over played, ...... do this


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Ca doesn't recognize Az street legal registration unless that bike was sold as streel legal in Ca also


Motard is over played, ...... do this


There's plenty of out of state plates around with the air force base and refineries around. I don't think it would be any fun to ride a 2stroke around on the freeway for any amount of time either.
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And it really would take a special type of asshole cop to ticket run the numbers and figure that out
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