best way to build a hill n hole?? - Pirate4x4.Com : 4x4 and Off-Road Forum

spinneybent · 04-15-2012, 12:26 AM

I got invited to help make some improvements to our local wheelin area and am considering addin the hill to the hole so we can create more action. We have a very large mud pit to work with (160 wide x 500+ feet long). I would like to start with 1 hill (jump) about 60-80 feet into the pit so it can be a good launch for rigs with power. How do you guys keep the hlils in such good shape? I am considering burying a culvert to help achieve and keep the shape of the hill. Anybody got any advice for me? I am just tryin to help step up the local scene. I want to make the first hill and after people get used to it I would like to add one or maybe even two more. Alot of guys are ready to launch so I want to do what I can to help. Any suggestions are appreciated.

TEX · 04-16-2012, 08:11 AM

As with any pit, you'll have to do maintenance on it to keep it in good shape. That may mean tearing it out & starting over now & then. I would make the "landing zone" very deep & sloppy to keep parts breakage as low as possible.

Gibson75 · 04-16-2012, 10:13 PM

Here's an example of what I'd consider a bad hill-n-hole design. Chime in if you feel otherwise.

Hill n Hole 1 Hillbilly Racing Mud Bog 7-3-11 - YouTube

spinneybent · 04-16-2012, 10:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gibson75

Here's an example of what I'd consider a bad hill-n-hole design. Chime in if you feel otherwise.

Hill n Hole 1 Hillbilly Racing Mud Bog 7-3-11 - YouTube

I agree. Thanks for the input guys

chevy_phil · 04-17-2012, 05:48 AM

I have never heard of or seen any hill and hole events in my area, but I like the idea of the "hill" pretty close to the start line. Then a deep sloppy mud hole to land into. No "hill" after the mud hole either.

Kenny714 · 04-20-2012, 11:01 AM

Here's ours....more like a bump-hill-bump. Maintenance is important, like was said above. Track will change from race to race as it gets worn down or chewed up. My run is at 3:07 and as you can see I like to have a mushy landing strip.

New Egypt Speedway Mud Hop (10-02-11) - YouTube

Black Hat · 08-28-2012, 07:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gibson75

Here's an example of what I'd consider a bad hill-n-hole design. Chime in if you feel otherwise.

Hill n Hole 1 Hillbilly Racing Mud Bog 7-3-11 - YouTube

i agree. i watched 3 trucks go through this then turned around and walked out. i was very unimpressed.

Gibson75 · 08-28-2012, 04:10 PM

Rada's facility is a whole mix of good and bad ideas, in my opinion. You have literally a 1/4 mile of shutdown room, which is great for those fast guys who sometimes have to throttle out of a slide. However, they allow spectators and racers to pit towards the "hot end" of the track, which is a recipe for someone getting hurt. Their regular pit is quite nice and level. Their hill-n-hole is just a disaster as far as the hill angles. They have them quite steep, which can really be seen in the video for how it launches the trucks.

I didn't go this year, but maybe they've fixed this?

04-15-2012, 12:26 AM	#1 (permalink)
spinneybent Registered User Join Date: Jun 2007 Member # 93198 Location: 100 miles and runnin Posts: 545	best way to build a hill n hole?? I got invited to help make some improvements to our local wheelin area and am considering addin the hill to the hole so we can create more action. We have a very large mud pit to work with (160 wide x 500+ feet long). I would like to start with 1 hill (jump) about 60-80 feet into the pit so it can be a good launch for rigs with power. How do you guys keep the hlils in such good shape? I am considering burying a culvert to help achieve and keep the shape of the hill. Anybody got any advice for me? I am just tryin to help step up the local scene. I want to make the first hill and after people get used to it I would like to add one or maybe even two more. Alot of guys are ready to launch so I want to do what I can to help. Any suggestions are appreciated. __________________ "Use the sand from your vagina for traction". TTC 2011 co dawg

04-16-2012, 08:11 AM	#2 (permalink)
TEX Registered User Join Date: Apr 2000 Member # 603 Location: Missouri, USA Posts: 14,198	As with any pit, you'll have to do maintenance on it to keep it in good shape. That may mean tearing it out & starting over now & then. I would make the "landing zone" very deep & sloppy to keep parts breakage as low as possible. __________________ www.probog.com Thanks to: www.heiseroil.com Extreme Performance www.kmelectronics.com Bear Creek Auto Recyclers www.svrehorsepower.com

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chevy_phil Registered User Join Date: Nov 2010 Member # 173265 Location: Ontario, Canada Posts: 373	I have never heard of or seen any hill and hole events in my area, but I like the idea of the "hill" pretty close to the start line. Then a deep sloppy mud hole to land into. No "hill" after the mud hole either. __________________ 1981 K20 pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?t=996844

04-20-2012, 11:01 AM	#6 (permalink)
Kenny714 Wheeler Join Date: Aug 2004 Member # 34803 Location: Southern New Jersey Posts: 335	Here's ours....more like a bump-hill-bump. Maintenance is important, like was said above. Track will change from race to race as it gets worn down or chewed up. My run is at 3:07 and as you can see I like to have a mushy landing strip. New Egypt Speedway Mud Hop (10-02-11) - YouTube __________________ http://www.supermotors.net/users/Kenny714

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04-16-2012, 10:13 PM	#3 (permalink)
Gibson75 Registered User Join Date: Nov 2010 Member # 172875 Location: West Virginia Posts: 216	Here's an example of what I'd consider a bad hill-n-hole design. Chime in if you feel otherwise. Hill n Hole 1 Hillbilly Racing Mud Bog 7-3-11 - YouTube

08-28-2012, 04:10 PM	#8 (permalink)
Gibson75 Registered User Join Date: Nov 2010 Member # 172875 Location: West Virginia Posts: 216	Rada's facility is a whole mix of good and bad ideas, in my opinion. You have literally a 1/4 mile of shutdown room, which is great for those fast guys who sometimes have to throttle out of a slide. However, they allow spectators and racers to pit towards the "hot end" of the track, which is a recipe for someone getting hurt. Their regular pit is quite nice and level. Their hill-n-hole is just a disaster as far as the hill angles. They have them quite steep, which can really be seen in the video for how it launches the trucks. I didn't go this year, but maybe they've fixed this?