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gunracer1 · 05-07-2012, 01:29 PM

It might see some hunting duty also. I picked up a 80 model suburban, 454/465/205. I was thinking a cam intake and headers to get it where's it fun. I want tractor tires but not sure how far I can go with the 10 bolt. I was planning on leaving it open and welding the rear. Am I missing anything?

xjbrian219 · 05-07-2012, 03:45 PM

swap in a dana35

flashdog · 05-07-2012, 06:13 PM

Good luck with the ten bolt. I tried it with 35" boggers and broke a stock one. I would go dana 60. I run one now and havnt broke it yet with stock shafts and hubs and 37" cut boggers.

gunracer1 · 05-08-2012, 02:40 AM

I watched a ten live with some 40" or so tractor tires a couple of months ago. Thats why I was floating the question. I don't expect a miracle from it, I will keep a watch for a passenger drop 60.
What are some of the better lift ideas?

gunracer1 · 05-08-2012, 02:44 AM

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Originally Posted by xjbrian219

swap in a dana35

Pad your post count in someone elses thread. As in stfu

flashdog · 05-08-2012, 07:46 AM

If its off hwy only u got a few options for lift. U can buy springs and u bolts. I have seen guys around here cut there spring hangers off and drop them. Some even keep stock springs. U can also go blocks but need traction bars to prevent axle wrap. Depends how much u wanna spend and how hillbilly u want it to look.all these options i have seen work well. I just finished building tractor rims for 8 on 6.5 pattern. Cut out centers on a cnc table and welded them in. Tires r cheap too.

trkklr77 · 05-08-2012, 07:50 AM

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Originally Posted by gunracer1

Pad your post count in someone elses thread. As in stfu

says the dip shit wanting to ag tire a 10b......

oh wait, this is the mud section, full on retardation is normal, never mind, as you were.

gunracer1 · 05-08-2012, 08:33 AM

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Originally Posted by trkklr77

says the dip shit wanting to ag tire a 10b......

oh wait, this is the mud section, full on retardation is normal, never mind, as you were.

So another uninformed dumbass bumping up his post count.

This whole rig will be put together for cheap. I have no desire to put money at it if I don't have to. I not looking to compete, just play in the mud. I watched a old suburban on a set of 40" or so ag tires go all over the pit. He didn't have a bunch of motor but he damn sure had a good time. Not on the side lines like most of us with Dana 60s and dot tires.

Gibson75 · 05-08-2012, 09:24 PM

Well, it sounds like you've answered your own question then.

trkklr77 · 05-09-2012, 05:47 AM

you are right, i have no idea what im taking about, i never broke 3 stubs and 4 inners with less motor, less traction and the same trans/tcase. go ahead full speed dumbass.

gunracer1 · 05-09-2012, 06:31 AM

So you are one of those bad ass 10 bolt killers. Man I wish I was capable of you Internet whit. I have never broken a ten bolt, matter of fact I have never broken a open diff anything So you were just driving around a muddy field and it broke?

dillo · 05-09-2012, 10:42 AM

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Originally Posted by gunracer1

So you are one of those bad ass 10 bolt killers. Man I wish I was capable of you Internet whit. I have never broken a ten bolt, matter of fact I have never broken a open diff anything So you were just driving around a muddy field and it broke?

Got 5 new american farmers 44x18x16.1 never used and marsh racing wheels sitting 7 hours from you, just buy some 12 inch springs and slap them on it and enjoy the truck in the mud, would take $2500 for the whole set of 5 tires and wheels and tubes, 78102 Beeville texas pm if interested.

gunracer1 · 05-19-2012, 05:57 AM

Well I ended up with some tires and rims. Wider than I was planning but they were cheap. 920 bucks delivered, so I will be looking for a 60 a bit harder. I have 3 ford 60s at the house, just no chevy or dodges. I need to redrill the rims to 8 on 6.5. I'm thinking about just buying a cheap 6" lift and cutting the hell out of it for clearance.
We fired the 454 up and it sounds just fine.

gunracer1 · 05-19-2012, 05:59 AM

Heres the cream puff, and the tires beside my 40 mtrs

gunracer1 · 06-05-2012, 04:55 AM

My buddie Jai bird came through.

88mitsu · 06-05-2012, 04:49 PM

meh, If its just a play truck who cares what axles you run. Take it easy and you won't break a lot of shit.

If it was me, I would have put some AGs around 33-36" and go around pulling smaller trucks out.

Y5mgisi · 06-05-2012, 05:08 PM

Yea just run it till it breaks. You WILL blow up that front end fur sure. But when you do, just play the rest of the day in 2wd and have fun!

deranged1 · 06-05-2012, 05:59 PM

Been running 10 bolt fronts for years...of course occasional breakage, but only a handful of times in many years of running. Usually with 40" cuts on the front too...and it's spooled. Usually only have broken as a result of very rough pit or rough landings.

gunracer1 · 06-06-2012, 05:34 PM

Well I was just going to weld on the spacers and redrill the rims, but that was a no go. Had to weld up two holes to keep it all in good metal.

flashdog · 06-06-2012, 05:45 PM

That will work. Make sure u countersink the holes.

78stepsideUAK10 · 06-08-2012, 10:08 PM

Interested in seeing this come together

How heavy are those tires?

jumbo2 · 06-08-2012, 10:29 PM

Need more pic's !!!! 454+4speed+10bolt+agg tires

look for some rockwells ,perfect gearing and strength $900

gunracer1 · 06-09-2012, 04:59 AM

If a set shows up I will snag them, but then I want bigger tires. 40" tires are just to small for rocks.

gunracer1 · 06-09-2012, 05:24 AM

Well I bolted one on the Durango, and looked pretty good. So if a set of rocks showed up I would have to save these for back ups for the durango. And get some 48" or so tires for the suburban. But for now I'm just going forward with the original plan.
These tires and rims are some heavy bastards. The rim centers are 3/8 thick. I would guess 150 pounds each.

chev85k10 · 06-09-2012, 08:45 AM

You are welding on the wheels with the tires mounted?

05-07-2012, 01:29 PM	#1 (permalink)
gunracer1 Registered User Join Date: Oct 2001 Member # 7412 Location: ft worth texas, aguilar colorado Posts: 3,574	Pit truck It might see some hunting duty also. I picked up a 80 model suburban, 454/465/205. I was thinking a cam intake and headers to get it where's it fun. I want tractor tires but not sure how far I can go with the 10 bolt. I was planning on leaving it open and welding the rear. Am I missing anything? __________________ i would rather be spanking the monkey offroad 99 Durango sitting on tons and fortys

05-07-2012, 06:13 PM	#3 (permalink)
flashdog Registered User Join Date: Jul 2011 Member # 195097 Location: Fort St John B.C. Posts: 138	Pit truck Good luck with the ten bolt. I tried it with 35" boggers and broke a stock one. I would go dana 60. I run one now and havnt broke it yet with stock shafts and hubs and 37" cut boggers.

05-08-2012, 02:40 AM	#4 (permalink)
gunracer1 Registered User Join Date: Oct 2001 Member # 7412 Location: ft worth texas, aguilar colorado Posts: 3,574	I watched a ten live with some 40" or so tractor tires a couple of months ago. Thats why I was floating the question. I don't expect a miracle from it, I will keep a watch for a passenger drop 60. What are some of the better lift ideas? __________________ i would rather be spanking the monkey offroad 99 Durango sitting on tons and fortys

05-08-2012, 07:46 AM	#6 (permalink)
flashdog Registered User Join Date: Jul 2011 Member # 195097 Location: Fort St John B.C. Posts: 138	Pit truck If its off hwy only u got a few options for lift. U can buy springs and u bolts. I have seen guys around here cut there spring hangers off and drop them. Some even keep stock springs. U can also go blocks but need traction bars to prevent axle wrap. Depends how much u wanna spend and how hillbilly u want it to look.all these options i have seen work well. I just finished building tractor rims for 8 on 6.5 pattern. Cut out centers on a cnc table and welded them in. Tires r cheap too.

05-09-2012, 06:31 AM	#11 (permalink)
gunracer1 Registered User Join Date: Oct 2001 Member # 7412 Location: ft worth texas, aguilar colorado Posts: 3,574	So you are one of those bad ass 10 bolt killers. Man I wish I was capable of you Internet whit. I have never broken a ten bolt, matter of fact I have never broken a open diff anything So you were just driving around a muddy field and it broke? __________________ i would rather be spanking the monkey offroad 99 Durango sitting on tons and fortys

05-07-2012, 03:45 PM	#2 (permalink)
xjbrian219 Registered User Join Date: Sep 2011 Member # 198969 Posts: 53	swap in a dana35

05-08-2012, 09:24 PM	#9 (permalink)
Gibson75 Registered User Join Date: Nov 2010 Member # 172875 Location: West Virginia Posts: 216	Well, it sounds like you've answered your own question then.

05-09-2012, 05:47 AM	#10 (permalink)
trkklr77 Banned Join Date: Apr 2004 Member # 29016 Location: galt ca, because i wanted my own backyard Posts: 15,355	you are right, i have no idea what im taking about, i never broke 3 stubs and 4 inners with less motor, less traction and the same trans/tcase. go ahead full speed dumbass.

05-19-2012, 05:57 AM	#13 (permalink)
gunracer1 Registered User Join Date: Oct 2001 Member # 7412 Location: ft worth texas, aguilar colorado Posts: 3,574	Well I ended up with some tires and rims. Wider than I was planning but they were cheap. 920 bucks delivered, so I will be looking for a 60 a bit harder. I have 3 ford 60s at the house, just no chevy or dodges. I need to redrill the rims to 8 on 6.5. I'm thinking about just buying a cheap 6" lift and cutting the hell out of it for clearance. We fired the 454 up and it sounds just fine. __________________ i would rather be spanking the monkey offroad 99 Durango sitting on tons and fortys Last edited by gunracer1; 05-19-2012 at 06:00 AM.

05-19-2012, 05:59 AM	#14 (permalink)
gunracer1 Registered User Join Date: Oct 2001 Member # 7412 Location: ft worth texas, aguilar colorado Posts: 3,574	Heres the cream puff, and the tires beside my 40 mtrs __________________ i would rather be spanking the monkey offroad 99 Durango sitting on tons and fortys

06-05-2012, 04:55 AM	#15 (permalink)
gunracer1 Registered User Join Date: Oct 2001 Member # 7412 Location: ft worth texas, aguilar colorado Posts: 3,574	My buddie Jai bird came through. __________________ i would rather be spanking the monkey offroad 99 Durango sitting on tons and fortys

06-05-2012, 04:49 PM	#16 (permalink)
88mitsu Registered User Join Date: Dec 2008 Member # 125523 Location: الشيوعية المحتلة أمريكا Posts: 1,291	meh, If its just a play truck who cares what axles you run. Take it easy and you won't break a lot of shit. If it was me, I would have put some AGs around 33-36" and go around pulling smaller trucks out. __________________ The American public has Stockholm Syndrome.

06-05-2012, 05:08 PM	#17 (permalink)
Y5mgisi Registered User Join Date: Apr 2002 Member # 11491 Location: Portland, Or Posts: 657	Yea just run it till it breaks. You WILL blow up that front end fur sure. But when you do, just play the rest of the day in 2wd and have fun! __________________ Now takeing donations, For the "GET MICHELL A DANA 60" fund........... :)

06-05-2012, 05:59 PM	#18 (permalink)
deranged1 Registered User Join Date: Oct 2005 Member # 55817 Location: Lake Ozark, Missouri Posts: 47	Been running 10 bolt fronts for years...of course occasional breakage, but only a handful of times in many years of running. Usually with 40" cuts on the front too...and it's spooled. Usually only have broken as a result of very rough pit or rough landings. Last edited by deranged1; 06-05-2012 at 06:00 PM.

06-06-2012, 05:34 PM	#19 (permalink)
gunracer1 Registered User Join Date: Oct 2001 Member # 7412 Location: ft worth texas, aguilar colorado Posts: 3,574	Well I was just going to weld on the spacers and redrill the rims, but that was a no go. Had to weld up two holes to keep it all in good metal. __________________ i would rather be spanking the monkey offroad 99 Durango sitting on tons and fortys

06-06-2012, 05:45 PM	#20 (permalink)
flashdog Registered User Join Date: Jul 2011 Member # 195097 Location: Fort St John B.C. Posts: 138	Pit truck That will work. Make sure u countersink the holes.

06-08-2012, 10:08 PM	#21 (permalink)
78stepsideUAK10 Registered User Join Date: Jun 2007 Member # 92930 Location: Bradenton, Fl Posts: 1,737	Interested in seeing this come together How heavy are those tires? __________________ Web wheeler

06-08-2012, 10:29 PM	#22 (permalink)
jumbo2 Wheeler Join Date: Nov 2010 Member # 174087 Posts: 333 Blog Entries: 1	Need more pic's !!!! 454+4speed+10bolt+agg tires look for some rockwells ,perfect gearing and strength $900

06-09-2012, 04:59 AM	#23 (permalink)
gunracer1 Registered User Join Date: Oct 2001 Member # 7412 Location: ft worth texas, aguilar colorado Posts: 3,574	If a set shows up I will snag them, but then I want bigger tires. 40" tires are just to small for rocks. __________________ i would rather be spanking the monkey offroad 99 Durango sitting on tons and fortys

06-09-2012, 05:24 AM	#24 (permalink)
gunracer1 Registered User Join Date: Oct 2001 Member # 7412 Location: ft worth texas, aguilar colorado Posts: 3,574	Well I bolted one on the Durango, and looked pretty good. So if a set of rocks showed up I would have to save these for back ups for the durango. And get some 48" or so tires for the suburban. But for now I'm just going forward with the original plan. These tires and rims are some heavy bastards. The rim centers are 3/8 thick. I would guess 150 pounds each. __________________ i would rather be spanking the monkey offroad 99 Durango sitting on tons and fortys

06-09-2012, 08:45 AM	#25 (permalink)
chev85k10 POS Join Date: Aug 2008 Member # 118893 Posts: 222	You are welding on the wheels with the tires mounted? __________________ 85 K10 BBC th400 203/205 60/14 yellow jackets robin nest spiderwebs "all you will really be able to do is mash the gas, close your eyes, and hope it all works out ok."

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