Welded spiders or Traction lok - Pirate4x4.Com : 4x4 and Off-Road Forum

Trail Mule · 01-09-2009, 11:17 AM

I have a grand wagoneer that I installed a high pinion king pin dana 60 and a sterling 10.25 in the rear. The sterling has a traction lok limited slip that has seen better days. My question is should i rebuild it or weld it up? The wagoneer rolls on 37's with double beadlocks, and the axle has 4.10 gears. I live in Texas

and there isn't that much snow or ice. I would drive this thing on the road about 60 percent of the time the other 40 percent would be in the mud and trails. But mostly mud. I know that the tires would screech around corners but I could live with that much more than I could live stuck in a mud whole 10 inches deep. Could this limited slip be made tighter or should I just weld it.

urbanmuddboger · 01-09-2009, 11:34 AM

linclion locker that bitch

Bald1 · 01-09-2009, 12:51 PM

Weld it. Track locks don't hold up well to larger tires.

Kenny714 · 01-09-2009, 01:06 PM

Just welded my 10.25. I'll probably swap to a Detroit after this one breaks if the bank account allows it.

secondarychaos · 01-09-2009, 01:58 PM

The vote thus far is unanimous.
my junk is lincoln lockered and i love it.

1tonstepside · 01-09-2009, 04:29 PM

Weld her up and spend the money somewhere else.

guidolyons · 01-09-2009, 08:36 PM

welded and wrapped in bacon.

82F100SWB · 01-09-2009, 09:32 PM

I suggest finding an open carrier and welding that, it will be stronger than a welded up TL.

Trail Mule · 01-12-2009, 06:41 PM

What welder did you use. arc or mig welder.

cslimfu · 01-13-2009, 11:46 PM

the main problem with those trac locks if the fact that they chew away at the carrier.then they get soo worn that the clutches slop around and break, or they burrow thru the carrirer and it splits in half. i have had both happen twice. i am now running a detroit and lovin it. i am sure it all depends on the use and mileage from the user before but, i got 35,000 out of my daily driver power sroke with 32's.i got 10,000 out of my mud truck with 38's then replaced it and its still holdin after 5,000 some with 42's.

JR650 · 01-14-2009, 03:33 PM

weld it but do it right and weld the spiders to the carrier too as well as the side gears. mig works well for me, brake clean the shit outta everything first.

85gmac · 01-16-2009, 11:19 AM

weld it and when you go to turn just give it more gas

OffRoad · 01-16-2009, 01:29 PM

weld that axle

ufospy · 01-19-2009, 02:28 PM

why weld it when it will cost u about 35 bucks to put in a mini spool

dubrocker · 01-20-2009, 05:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ufospy

why weld it when it will cost u about 35 bucks to put in a mini spool

he'd have to switch to an open carrier to go mini-spool.

Trail Mule · 01-20-2009, 07:47 AM

As far as I know there is no such thing as a mini spool for the Sterling 10.25, and I have a limited slip and I would have to get an open carrier which would cost almost as much as a Detroit.

View Poll Results: Rebuild the Traction lok or Weld it
Rebuild traction lok	2	4.17%
Weld the traction lok	46	95.83%
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01-09-2009, 11:17 AM	#1 (permalink)
Trail Mule Registered User Join Date: Nov 2007 Member # 103609 Posts: 161	Welded spiders or Traction lok I have a grand wagoneer that I installed a high pinion king pin dana 60 and a sterling 10.25 in the rear. The sterling has a traction lok limited slip that has seen better days. My question is should i rebuild it or weld it up? The wagoneer rolls on 37's with double beadlocks, and the axle has 4.10 gears. I live in Texas and there isn't that much snow or ice. I would drive this thing on the road about 60 percent of the time the other 40 percent would be in the mud and trails. But mostly mud. I know that the tires would screech around corners but I could live with that much more than I could live stuck in a mud whole 10 inches deep. Could this limited slip be made tighter or should I just weld it.

01-09-2009, 11:34 AM	#2 (permalink)
urbanmuddboger Registered User Join Date: Nov 2007 Member # 102365 Location: cottonwood ca Posts: 1,171	linclion locker that bitch __________________ MOLON LABE

01-09-2009, 04:29 PM	#6 (permalink)
1tonstepside Granite Guru Join Date: Jul 2003 Member # 21031 Location: oregon coast Posts: 545	Weld her up and spend the money somewhere else. __________________ 1989 chevy crew on 44 boggers LY6 6.0L 400 205 Rocks

01-09-2009, 09:32 PM	#8 (permalink)
82F100SWB Fawkin Fordhead Join Date: Nov 2002 Member # 15263 Location: Winterpeg, Canada Posts: 2,048	I suggest finding an open carrier and welding that, it will be stronger than a welded up TL. __________________ 96 F350 XL CC PSD/5 speed 4x4... New Tow pig in the making 96 F250 XLT Ex Cab PSD/5 speed 4x4... DD/Tow Pig 92 W250 LE, CTD/5 speed 4x4, tow pig/DD/snow pushin pig 86 F250... 460/T19/1345/D60/welded 10.25, 44 Boggers, reg cab, some junk... Build

01-09-2009, 12:51 PM	#3 (permalink)
Bald1 Registered User Join Date: Dec 2001 Member # 8914 Location: Calgary AB Posts: 270	Weld it. Track locks don't hold up well to larger tires.

01-09-2009, 01:06 PM	#4 (permalink)
Kenny714 Wheeler Join Date: Aug 2004 Member # 34803 Location: Southern New Jersey Posts: 331	Just welded my 10.25. I'll probably swap to a Detroit after this one breaks if the bank account allows it.

01-09-2009, 01:58 PM	#5 (permalink)
secondarychaos Registered User Join Date: Oct 2008 Member # 122327 Location: Grass Valley, CA Posts: 305	The vote thus far is unanimous. my junk is lincoln lockered and i love it.

01-12-2009, 06:41 PM	#9 (permalink)
Trail Mule Registered User Join Date: Nov 2007 Member # 103609 Posts: 161	What welder did you use. arc or mig welder.

01-13-2009, 11:46 PM	#10 (permalink)
cslimfu GREEN BASTARD!!! Join Date: Nov 2008 Member # 123458 Location: amity, oregon Posts: 1,594	the main problem with those trac locks if the fact that they chew away at the carrier.then they get soo worn that the clutches slop around and break, or they burrow thru the carrirer and it splits in half. i have had both happen twice. i am now running a detroit and lovin it. i am sure it all depends on the use and mileage from the user before but, i got 35,000 out of my daily driver power sroke with 32's.i got 10,000 out of my mud truck with 38's then replaced it and its still holdin after 5,000 some with 42's. Last edited by cslimfu; 01-13-2009 at 11:46 PM.

01-14-2009, 03:33 PM	#11 (permalink)
JR650 Registered User Join Date: Jan 2005 Member # 41529 Location: The Great Flat North Posts: 95	weld it but do it right and weld the spiders to the carrier too as well as the side gears. mig works well for me, brake clean the shit outta everything first. __________________ 78 F250 supercab healthy 460 and 38" XMLs 91 YJ soa, 60front/80rear, locked, 38.5x16 TSLs on h1s, np435/twin stick 205, 385 series ford power

01-16-2009, 11:19 AM	#12 (permalink)
85gmac Registered User Join Date: Jan 2006 Member # 65863 Posts: 27	weld it and when you go to turn just give it more gas

01-16-2009, 01:29 PM	#13 (permalink)
OffRoad Registered User Join Date: Dec 2005 Member # 63800 Location: NB, Great White North Posts: 425	weld that axle __________________ "I’m more flux-core than hard core." -- rustywagoneersdotcom

01-19-2009, 02:28 PM	#14 (permalink)
ufospy Registered User Join Date: Sep 2008 Member # 120490 Location: minnesota Posts: 75	why weld it when it will cost u about 35 bucks to put in a mini spool

01-20-2009, 07:47 AM	#16 (permalink)
Trail Mule Registered User Join Date: Nov 2007 Member # 103609 Posts: 161	As far as I know there is no such thing as a mini spool for the Sterling 10.25, and I have a limited slip and I would have to get an open carrier which would cost almost as much as a Detroit. Last edited by Trail Mule; 01-20-2009 at 07:48 AM.

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