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coreylee051188 · 04-07-2009, 11:43 PM

hey everyone i was just wondering if there any reason why i shouldnt put some 44 tsl's on my 14" wide rims. interco suggest 12" wide but my last tires were 39.5 on some 14 and never ran into problems there besides 30 extra lbs in each rim during mudd runs. thanx 4 input

TEX · 04-08-2009, 07:27 AM

I ran my 38.5X15's on 15" wide rims & I've seen 42's on 18" wide rims. 20" seems to be the width of choice for 44" Boggers.

coreylee051188 · 04-08-2009, 01:54 PM

im talking the width not the diameter.

TEX · 04-08-2009, 02:11 PM

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Originally Posted by coreylee051188

im talking the width not the diameter.

So am I.

coreylee051188 · 04-08-2009, 02:36 PM

i have never seen a 20 inch wide rim but am very interested.hell thats wider than the tire.

MUD SLUT · 04-08-2009, 02:42 PM

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Originally Posted by coreylee051188

i have never seen a 20 inch wide rim but am very interested.hell thats wider than the tire.

Seen it before a zillion times. Just like you can put a 39.5x15x15 bogger on a 15x7 rim and it works too.

mudslinger65 · 04-08-2009, 05:44 PM

one of the reasons they suggest a 12in is so the tires curves in and seals the bead to the rim putting pressure on the bead theres no problem running the rim if your just doin mud justwatch out how much you air downn to.

BubbaZ71Tahoe · 04-08-2009, 10:26 PM

wider the rim the more its going to push out the sidewalls and not allow the sidelugs to bite as much... i run 15x10s with 38.5/15 boggers... its perfect

four_by_ken · 04-09-2009, 03:27 AM

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Originally Posted by TEX

I ran my 38.5X15's on 15" wide rims & I've seen 42's on 18" wide rims. 20" seems to be the width of choice for 44" Boggers.

Width of choice.... where? No where I have ever been. There would hardly be any tire to protect the rim lip with the rim wider than the tire! I would like to see a picture of this too.

I am sure its been done... but certainly not the width of choice. I would say 14" would be closer to the width of choice around here.

TEX · 04-09-2009, 09:19 AM

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Originally Posted by four_by_ken

Width of choice.... where? No where I have ever been. There would hardly be any tire to protect the rim lip with the rim wider than the tire! I would like to see a picture of this too.

I am sure its been done... but certainly not the width of choice. I would say 14" would be closer to the width of choice around here.

They'd all be bead-locked, so you're not worried about the rim lip.

www.probadd.com for pics

four_by_ken · 04-09-2009, 10:19 AM

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Originally Posted by TEX

They'd all be bead-locked, so you're not worried about the rim lip.

www.probadd.com for pics

OK, we are talking about full our mud drag racers.... I guess I could see that. There isnt a worry about the rim lips like with any kind of trail rig.

coreylee051188 · 04-09-2009, 02:08 PM

it will be doing a little timed mud bogging but mostly trail riding (no rocks). and im not too worried about the side lugs anyways the only time i need them is over 2' of slop and im sure they do there part. no bead locks were im at were im at ive never ever seen real bead locks besides drag cars/trucks.o well im ordering them tommorow if someone could explain how to post pictures id show it off. the only reason i started this post is my last set up (39.5) were on 15" wide rims and the sidewalls started cracking.

Brent Foster · 04-09-2009, 03:14 PM

the cracking is in there from the factory.... if your talking about the slices in the bead that looks like a razor blade slipped around the bead in a few spots.

only time I haven't seen that is with the new 44's for 16" diameter rims. The rim size they post on their site is typicaly the minimum they recomend

Brent Foster · 04-09-2009, 03:18 PM

http://viewmorepics.myspace.com/inde...mageID=8654188

http://viewmorepics.myspace.com/inde...4086&i=8654221

Mine were cracked...... got wrinkled up regularly and are still fine

coreylee051188 · 04-09-2009, 07:46 PM

yea but my cracks were like 1/4 inch deep and just looked scary, so i sold them with 40% life for 500 when i broke my first axle.

Brent Foster · 04-10-2009, 11:59 AM

[QUOTE][yea but my cracks were like 1/4 inch deep and just looked scary/QUOTE]

Mine too..... your buddy got a deal

How are they now?

coreylee051188 · 04-10-2009, 07:35 PM

dunno he putem on a 350 yota and broke somthing and sold it. one of them rich boys that just wanted a big truck and nuthing that comes with it.but i ordered the 44s today they were just out of stock and i have to wait on interco, they said arund the 21st. hey brent what kinda math did you do when gearing different tire sizes front to back

Brent Foster · 04-11-2009, 06:51 AM

(RPM x tire dia.) / (total gear ratio x 336) = MPH

I just run through the ratios till i find less that 2% overdrive in the front. then you can have custom gears cut for the transfer or run different sprockets on a chain drive to get the correct total gear ratio to the front.

Mark Williams website has some real nice gearing calculators to help with that also.

Cwt32286 · 10-04-2009, 02:41 PM

I have 44's on 14 wides.

mywhitebronco · 11-07-2009, 02:41 PM

my truck on 44" swampers with 14" wide rims they have a good contact pattern

04-07-2009, 11:43 PM	#1 (permalink)
coreylee051188 Registered User Join Date: Feb 2009 Member # 130431 Location: Warner Robins GA Posts: 28	44 tsl question hey everyone i was just wondering if there any reason why i shouldnt put some 44 tsl's on my 14" wide rims. interco suggest 12" wide but my last tires were 39.5 on some 14 and never ran into problems there besides 30 extra lbs in each rim during mudd runs. thanx 4 input

04-08-2009, 07:27 AM	#2 (permalink)
TEX Registered User Join Date: Apr 2000 Member # 603 Location: Missouri, USA Posts: 14,194	I ran my 38.5X15's on 15" wide rims & I've seen 42's on 18" wide rims. 20" seems to be the width of choice for 44" Boggers. __________________ www.probog.com Thanks to: www.heiseroil.com Extreme Performance www.kmelectronics.com Bear Creek Auto Recyclers www.svrehorsepower.com

04-08-2009, 05:44 PM	#7 (permalink)
mudslinger65 Registered User Join Date: May 2007 Member # 91221 Location: ft. campbell/ clarksville tn/ afganistan Posts: 162	one of the reasons they suggest a 12in is so the tires curves in and seals the bead to the rim putting pressure on the bead theres no problem running the rim if your just doin mud justwatch out how much you air downn to. __________________ [QUOTE=R.DesJardin;13358886]Come on man, think about it, a Toyota doesn't have to be built to beat a [B]Jeep[/B]!:eek:[/QUOTE]

04-08-2009, 10:26 PM	#8 (permalink)
BubbaZ71Tahoe Registered User Join Date: Sep 2007 Member # 99192 Location: Franklin, Louisiana Posts: 75	wider the rim the more its going to push out the sidewalls and not allow the sidelugs to bite as much... i run 15x10s with 38.5/15 boggers... its perfect __________________ 97 Tahoe soon to have 60/14 4.88s, detroits, 52s, psc hydro assist, 38.5 boggers 02 F250 7.3 fx4

04-09-2009, 03:14 PM	#13 (permalink)
Brent Foster Registered User Join Date: Jan 2009 Member # 127909 Location: Benwood, West Virginia Posts: 80	the cracking is in there from the factory.... if your talking about the slices in the bead that looks like a razor blade slipped around the bead in a few spots. only time I haven't seen that is with the new 44's for 16" diameter rims. The rim size they post on their site is typicaly the minimum they recomend Last edited by Brent Foster; 04-09-2009 at 03:14 PM.

04-08-2009, 01:54 PM	#3 (permalink)
coreylee051188 Registered User Join Date: Feb 2009 Member # 130431 Location: Warner Robins GA Posts: 28	im talking the width not the diameter.

04-08-2009, 02:36 PM	#5 (permalink)
coreylee051188 Registered User Join Date: Feb 2009 Member # 130431 Location: Warner Robins GA Posts: 28	i have never seen a 20 inch wide rim but am very interested.hell thats wider than the tire.

04-09-2009, 02:08 PM	#12 (permalink)
coreylee051188 Registered User Join Date: Feb 2009 Member # 130431 Location: Warner Robins GA Posts: 28	it will be doing a little timed mud bogging but mostly trail riding (no rocks). and im not too worried about the side lugs anyways the only time i need them is over 2' of slop and im sure they do there part. no bead locks were im at were im at ive never ever seen real bead locks besides drag cars/trucks.o well im ordering them tommorow if someone could explain how to post pictures id show it off. the only reason i started this post is my last set up (39.5) were on 15" wide rims and the sidewalls started cracking.

04-09-2009, 03:18 PM	#14 (permalink)
Brent Foster Registered User Join Date: Jan 2009 Member # 127909 Location: Benwood, West Virginia Posts: 80	http://viewmorepics.myspace.com/inde...mageID=8654188 http://viewmorepics.myspace.com/inde...4086&i=8654221 Mine were cracked...... got wrinkled up regularly and are still fine Last edited by Brent Foster; 04-09-2009 at 03:19 PM.

04-09-2009, 07:46 PM	#15 (permalink)
coreylee051188 Registered User Join Date: Feb 2009 Member # 130431 Location: Warner Robins GA Posts: 28	yea but my cracks were like 1/4 inch deep and just looked scary, so i sold them with 40% life for 500 when i broke my first axle.

04-10-2009, 11:59 AM	#16 (permalink)
Brent Foster Registered User Join Date: Jan 2009 Member # 127909 Location: Benwood, West Virginia Posts: 80	[QUOTE][yea but my cracks were like 1/4 inch deep and just looked scary/QUOTE] Mine too..... your buddy got a deal How are they now?

04-10-2009, 07:35 PM	#17 (permalink)
coreylee051188 Registered User Join Date: Feb 2009 Member # 130431 Location: Warner Robins GA Posts: 28	dunno he putem on a 350 yota and broke somthing and sold it. one of them rich boys that just wanted a big truck and nuthing that comes with it.but i ordered the 44s today they were just out of stock and i have to wait on interco, they said arund the 21st. hey brent what kinda math did you do when gearing different tire sizes front to back Last edited by coreylee051188; 04-10-2009 at 07:37 PM.

04-11-2009, 06:51 AM	#18 (permalink)
Brent Foster Registered User Join Date: Jan 2009 Member # 127909 Location: Benwood, West Virginia Posts: 80	(RPM x tire dia.) / (total gear ratio x 336) = MPH I just run through the ratios till i find less that 2% overdrive in the front. then you can have custom gears cut for the transfer or run different sprockets on a chain drive to get the correct total gear ratio to the front. Mark Williams website has some real nice gearing calculators to help with that also.

10-04-2009, 02:41 PM	#19 (permalink)
Cwt32286 Newbie Join Date: Jan 2008 Member # 106694 Posts: 59	I have 44's on 14 wides.

11-07-2009, 02:41 PM	#20 (permalink)
mywhitebronco Registered User Join Date: Dec 2008 Member # 125913 Posts: 99	my truck on 44" swampers with 14" wide rims they have a good contact pattern

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