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85_Bronco · 07-28-2009, 07:55 AM

im in the air force and curently sationed in washington dc, and i have a 85 bronco, normaly i run 33"-35" tires, the bump me up because i built a motor that has some power,

mustange70 · 07-28-2009, 08:00 AM

Booooooooooooooooo you suck, but yeah built motors usually bump ya up from stock, and pending on the rig the sportsman class as well.

85_Bronco · 07-28-2009, 08:07 AM

they put me in sportsman once ..... lol easy money. i also have a nos kit on it and normaly spray a 100 shot and that puts me in x-class...WTF like a bronco is ever going to keep up with a blown rail

85_Bronco · 07-28-2009, 08:10 AM

pic of the bronco with the old motor

http://www.m4x4a.org/index.php?modul...g2_itemId=4436

bossman79 · 07-29-2009, 10:51 PM

Updates??

mustange70 · 07-30-2009, 11:48 PM

updates . . . well kinda of crappy, dyno guy lost both of his grandparents in a motorhome accident beginning of this week, soo no dyno time till next friday/monday, and i can't wait that long, as i'm racing saturday.

The headers are gonna be a pain to make fit, as the steering needs to be re run, and the brake booster needed to be removed (which i've already taken care of, need to get some u-joint for the steering though).

Ened up having to switch over to electric fuel pump, soo new fuel cell, filter, pump, regulator, all new line, bunch of fittings, ends up being expensive, still need to port match the headers and pound out the tubes around the bolt holes, need to rig up some throttle linkage as the predator runs a funky setup, need to rewire the hole truck for the msd shit, shouldn't be to bad, but time comsuming. Anyway its been a long last couple days and it'll be even longer tomorrow, soooo i'll keep this thread updated, peace out.

drthunder33 · 08-02-2009, 06:21 PM

Can't wait to see the end result. I too am using the boat anchor/ 400 in my truck. It's bone stock with an edelbrock intake, carb spacer, holley dp and some summit headers. I'm currently cleaning up a different 400 (f'd up the on in the truck). Seems like a decent motor. I'd like a 460 but I have the gears to run the 400 for now.

Good luck

LegendKiller89 · 08-02-2009, 07:02 PM

I agree can't wait for the end result on this thing, best of luck.

mustange70 · 08-02-2009, 11:10 PM

Alrigty had an awesome first outing, had the fastest non rail(blowers nitrous and cut boggers/paddles type of rigs) run of the day, i had no issues with all the new crap i put in the rig, but i do have some issues, anywho i came to found the msd doesn't like my autometer tach and petronix rev. limiter due to the way it gives the signal to the coil, soo i swap the tach to run off the msd 6a box, and i still haven't got the rev limiter to work, gonna try to swap a couple wires around and it should be good to go, if not i'll have to drop some more coin and get something that will work with the msd.

Carberator, well i ran into issues, it was all gummed up, wouldn't give fuel over 3000rpm and it fell flat on its face, sooo i tossed the 750 demon back on it to get it running, and its definately too small, so i have to get the overhaul kit and get the carb rebuilt.

I got the brakes and the steering all sorted out and working better than before soo thats good. but yeah heres a vid of the truck at idle, and i'll be uploading 2 more vids tonight as well:

new motor - Car Videos on StreetFire

85_Bronco · 08-03-2009, 03:27 AM

throw the msd in the garbage!!! i had a msd6al on mine, it made it 167 miles.

it was still under warrent and msd wouldnt do anything about it.
so i replaced it with this.
http://www.malloryperformance.com/Pr...minselection=0
its a lot of coin, but its got 3 rev limiter, 3 stages of retard, etc, etc. its the best ignition i have ever had.. ever

mj · 08-03-2009, 09:40 AM

all your vids say "unavailable"

mustange70 · 08-03-2009, 08:28 PM

vids should be up and working now.

masonmachines · 08-03-2009, 10:20 PM

When you get it running good, I would love to see dyno results. Is it getting to 7000 rpm yet?

mustange70 · 08-04-2009, 09:13 AM

yeah the old motor was hitting 7000, and i've already tickled that mark too. I won't be running it there though as the cam only makes power to 6500ish.

ButtNuttN8 · 08-04-2009, 06:49 PM

you said u where looking for a place that makes upright headers try
http://www.decheaders.com/shop/index...h=64_66_79_106

and if you wanna make ur own summit makes header flanges but it looks like u got it taken care of im a bit late

wyazel1 · 08-04-2009, 11:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mustange70

yeah the old motor was hitting 7000, and i've already tickled that mark too. I won't be running it there though as the cam only makes power to 6500ish.

what cam are you running? i built a 400 last winter i went with the comp xe262h but its more of a street truck than yours

Hillbilly Rockstar · 08-04-2009, 11:45 PM

Truck sounds real good!!

mustange70 · 08-05-2009, 06:01 AM

Quote:

what cam are you running

Custom ground solid roller, .662 and .685 lift (smaller than i was orginally told) on a fairly tight duration, lobe seperation is 109.5, i'll grab the cam card here tomorrow and post the exact specs causei'm curious as to what my dynamic compression is coming out to.

Gixxer1237 · 08-07-2009, 08:50 AM

Thats a lot of cam. should pull to 7000rpm. Whats the duration on it at .050?

mustange70 · 08-24-2009, 09:05 PM

lol still haven't grabbed the cam card, anywho a couple more vids:

Cardston Mud Bog run 2 - Car Videos on StreetFire
cardston mud bog run 3 - Car Videos on StreetFire
cardston mud bog - Car Videos on StreetFire

The one vid you can hear where i loose fuel pickup, so i'm gonna have to do something about that. Also in the one where i launch in to high of a gear i was fully convinced that the old snorkle setup had to go, i was running the spectre single 4" inlet goodies, and its just way to restrictive for my motor, so i grab a 5" tight radius exhaust elbow, followed by a rubber coupling and a rubber 45* elbow and made a new snorkle. The rubber coupling fits perfect over the carb in place of the old spectre unit, then i shoved the 90* bend in the coupling with the 45*elbow connected to that with a short length of 5" muffler pipe with a big ass dry washable filter on the other end of the pipe. It made a BIG difference, truck even idles better with the bigger intake on the thing, aside from the size increase the smoother radius bed leading into the carb throat should increase power as the spectre stuff is just to restrictive on bigger motors.

IWantATurbo · 08-25-2009, 08:44 AM

Any one made the videos work??? I can't?

mustange70 · 08-25-2009, 08:54 AM

Check again later on, i've found streetfire takes a tad long to get everything working

michael brown · 09-17-2009, 01:47 PM

i know this is really late but www.schoenfeldheaders.com is a good place to get lots of headers... runnin updrafts from them on a 360 mopig in a dirt drag truck... they seem to work pretty good and look great... just figured id try to get that info out there...

mustange70 · 09-17-2009, 08:58 PM

thanks, yeah they got some good stuff, but this is what i ended up building:

i'm gonna try to get the vids reloaded up here in the next couple days.

mustange70 · 10-01-2009, 07:16 PM

got the videos uploaded:

millk river mud bog first run - Car Videos on StreetFire
YouTube - Cardston mud bog run 1
YouTube - My last run in cardston
YouTube - missed shift run in pollockville
YouTube - Cardston mud bog run 2
YouTube - Pollockville mud bog in truck vid

07-28-2009, 08:00 AM	#52 (permalink)
mustange70 Registered User Join Date: Jan 2005 Member # 41097 Location: Calgary Posts: 2,108	Booooooooooooooooo you suck, but yeah built motors usually bump ya up from stock, and pending on the rig the sportsman class as well. __________________ 90' C350 AKA 4 door 1 ton Bronco 96' Ranger: kings, EMF parts, 800hp SBF

07-29-2009, 10:51 PM	#55 (permalink)
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07-30-2009, 11:48 PM	#56 (permalink)
mustange70 Registered User Join Date: Jan 2005 Member # 41097 Location: Calgary Posts: 2,108	updates . . . well kinda of crappy, dyno guy lost both of his grandparents in a motorhome accident beginning of this week, soo no dyno time till next friday/monday, and i can't wait that long, as i'm racing saturday. The headers are gonna be a pain to make fit, as the steering needs to be re run, and the brake booster needed to be removed (which i've already taken care of, need to get some u-joint for the steering though). Ened up having to switch over to electric fuel pump, soo new fuel cell, filter, pump, regulator, all new line, bunch of fittings, ends up being expensive, still need to port match the headers and pound out the tubes around the bolt holes, need to rig up some throttle linkage as the predator runs a funky setup, need to rewire the hole truck for the msd shit, shouldn't be to bad, but time comsuming. Anyway its been a long last couple days and it'll be even longer tomorrow, soooo i'll keep this thread updated, peace out. __________________ 90' C350 AKA 4 door 1 ton Bronco 96' Ranger: kings, EMF parts, 800hp SBF

08-02-2009, 06:21 PM	#57 (permalink)
drthunder33 Registered User Join Date: May 2007 Member # 90970 Location: Big Gay Truck Land Posts: 10	Can't wait to see the end result. I too am using the boat anchor/ 400 in my truck. It's bone stock with an edelbrock intake, carb spacer, holley dp and some summit headers. I'm currently cleaning up a different 400 (f'd up the on in the truck). Seems like a decent motor. I'd like a 460 but I have the gears to run the 400 for now. Good luck __________________ Big Gay '79 F250 2 1/2 ton on 53s Last edited by drthunder33; 08-02-2009 at 06:24 PM.

08-02-2009, 11:10 PM	#59 (permalink)
mustange70 Registered User Join Date: Jan 2005 Member # 41097 Location: Calgary Posts: 2,108	Alrigty had an awesome first outing, had the fastest non rail(blowers nitrous and cut boggers/paddles type of rigs) run of the day, i had no issues with all the new crap i put in the rig, but i do have some issues, anywho i came to found the msd doesn't like my autometer tach and petronix rev. limiter due to the way it gives the signal to the coil, soo i swap the tach to run off the msd 6a box, and i still haven't got the rev limiter to work, gonna try to swap a couple wires around and it should be good to go, if not i'll have to drop some more coin and get something that will work with the msd. Carberator, well i ran into issues, it was all gummed up, wouldn't give fuel over 3000rpm and it fell flat on its face, sooo i tossed the 750 demon back on it to get it running, and its definately too small, so i have to get the overhaul kit and get the carb rebuilt. I got the brakes and the steering all sorted out and working better than before soo thats good. but yeah heres a vid of the truck at idle, and i'll be uploading 2 more vids tonight as well: new motor - Car Videos on StreetFire __________________ 90' C350 AKA 4 door 1 ton Bronco 96' Ranger: kings, EMF parts, 800hp SBF

07-28-2009, 07:55 AM	#51 (permalink)
85_Bronco Registered User Join Date: Jan 2009 Member # 126500 Posts: 67	im in the air force and curently sationed in washington dc, and i have a 85 bronco, normaly i run 33"-35" tires, the bump me up because i built a motor that has some power,

07-28-2009, 08:07 AM	#53 (permalink)
85_Bronco Registered User Join Date: Jan 2009 Member # 126500 Posts: 67	they put me in sportsman once ..... lol easy money. i also have a nos kit on it and normaly spray a 100 shot and that puts me in x-class...WTF like a bronco is ever going to keep up with a blown rail

07-28-2009, 08:10 AM	#54 (permalink)
85_Bronco Registered User Join Date: Jan 2009 Member # 126500 Posts: 67	pic of the bronco with the old motor http://www.m4x4a.org/index.php?modul...g2_itemId=4436

08-02-2009, 07:02 PM	#58 (permalink)
LegendKiller89 Registered User Join Date: Jan 2009 Member # 128238 Posts: 770	I agree can't wait for the end result on this thing, best of luck.

08-03-2009, 03:27 AM	#60 (permalink)
85_Bronco Registered User Join Date: Jan 2009 Member # 126500 Posts: 67	throw the msd in the garbage!!! i had a msd6al on mine, it made it 167 miles. it was still under warrent and msd wouldnt do anything about it. so i replaced it with this. http://www.malloryperformance.com/Pr...minselection=0 its a lot of coin, but its got 3 rev limiter, 3 stages of retard, etc, etc. its the best ignition i have ever had.. ever

08-03-2009, 09:40 AM	#61 (permalink)
mj Registered User Join Date: Oct 2000 Member # 1919 Location: BC Canada Posts: 7,547	all your vids say "unavailable"

08-03-2009, 08:28 PM	#62 (permalink)
mustange70 Registered User Join Date: Jan 2005 Member # 41097 Location: Calgary Posts: 2,108	vids should be up and working now. __________________ 90' C350 AKA 4 door 1 ton Bronco 96' Ranger: kings, EMF parts, 800hp SBF

08-03-2009, 10:20 PM	#63 (permalink)
masonmachines Registered User Join Date: Mar 2002 Member # 10736 Posts: 2,016	When you get it running good, I would love to see dyno results. Is it getting to 7000 rpm yet?

08-04-2009, 09:13 AM	#64 (permalink)
mustange70 Registered User Join Date: Jan 2005 Member # 41097 Location: Calgary Posts: 2,108	yeah the old motor was hitting 7000, and i've already tickled that mark too. I won't be running it there though as the cam only makes power to 6500ish. __________________ 90' C350 AKA 4 door 1 ton Bronco 96' Ranger: kings, EMF parts, 800hp SBF

08-04-2009, 06:49 PM	#65 (permalink)
ButtNuttN8 Registered User Join Date: Feb 2005 Member # 43427 Location: Maine Posts: 193	you said u where looking for a place that makes upright headers try http://www.decheaders.com/shop/index...h=64_66_79_106 and if you wanna make ur own summit makes header flanges but it looks like u got it taken care of im a bit late Last edited by ButtNuttN8; 08-04-2009 at 07:04 PM.

08-04-2009, 11:45 PM	#67 (permalink)
Hillbilly Rockstar Registered User Join Date: Jul 2009 Member # 138463 Posts: 138	Truck sounds real good!!

08-07-2009, 08:50 AM	#69 (permalink)
Gixxer1237 Registered User Join Date: Mar 2007 Member # 88353 Location: Kansas Posts: 14	Thats a lot of cam. should pull to 7000rpm. Whats the duration on it at .050?

08-24-2009, 09:05 PM	#70 (permalink)
mustange70 Registered User Join Date: Jan 2005 Member # 41097 Location: Calgary Posts: 2,108	lol still haven't grabbed the cam card, anywho a couple more vids: Cardston Mud Bog run 2 - Car Videos on StreetFire cardston mud bog run 3 - Car Videos on StreetFire cardston mud bog - Car Videos on StreetFire The one vid you can hear where i loose fuel pickup, so i'm gonna have to do something about that. Also in the one where i launch in to high of a gear i was fully convinced that the old snorkle setup had to go, i was running the spectre single 4" inlet goodies, and its just way to restrictive for my motor, so i grab a 5" tight radius exhaust elbow, followed by a rubber coupling and a rubber 45* elbow and made a new snorkle. The rubber coupling fits perfect over the carb in place of the old spectre unit, then i shoved the 90* bend in the coupling with the 45*elbow connected to that with a short length of 5" muffler pipe with a big ass dry washable filter on the other end of the pipe. It made a BIG difference, truck even idles better with the bigger intake on the thing, aside from the size increase the smoother radius bed leading into the carb throat should increase power as the spectre stuff is just to restrictive on bigger motors. __________________ 90' C350 AKA 4 door 1 ton Bronco 96' Ranger: kings, EMF parts, 800hp SBF

08-25-2009, 08:44 AM	#71 (permalink)
IWantATurbo Registered User Join Date: Feb 2009 Member # 130351 Location: Windy WY Posts: 144	Any one made the videos work??? I can't?

08-25-2009, 08:54 AM	#72 (permalink)
mustange70 Registered User Join Date: Jan 2005 Member # 41097 Location: Calgary Posts: 2,108	Check again later on, i've found streetfire takes a tad long to get everything working __________________ 90' C350 AKA 4 door 1 ton Bronco 96' Ranger: kings, EMF parts, 800hp SBF

09-17-2009, 01:47 PM	#73 (permalink)
michael brown Wheeler Join Date: Sep 2009 Member # 141654 Location: madison MS Posts: 493	i know this is really late but www.schoenfeldheaders.com is a good place to get lots of headers... runnin updrafts from them on a 360 mopig in a dirt drag truck... they seem to work pretty good and look great... just figured id try to get that info out there... __________________ http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showt...928&highlight=

09-17-2009, 08:58 PM	#74 (permalink)
mustange70 Registered User Join Date: Jan 2005 Member # 41097 Location: Calgary Posts: 2,108	thanks, yeah they got some good stuff, but this is what i ended up building: i'm gonna try to get the vids reloaded up here in the next couple days. __________________ 90' C350 AKA 4 door 1 ton Bronco 96' Ranger: kings, EMF parts, 800hp SBF

10-01-2009, 07:16 PM	#75 (permalink)
mustange70 Registered User Join Date: Jan 2005 Member # 41097 Location: Calgary Posts: 2,108	got the videos uploaded: millk river mud bog first run - Car Videos on StreetFire YouTube - Cardston mud bog run 1 YouTube - My last run in cardston YouTube - missed shift run in pollockville YouTube - Cardston mud bog run 2 YouTube - Pollockville mud bog in truck vid __________________ 90' C350 AKA 4 door 1 ton Bronco 96' Ranger: kings, EMF parts, 800hp SBF

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